A Desperate Measure (Worm/Exalted Quest)

[X] Plan: Lawyered up
-[X] Attempt to avoid Wards recruitment and…
--[X] ...try and join New Wave
-[X] Improving Brockton Bay. Your major virtue becomes Ambition (Make Brockton Bay a home I can be proud of)
-[X] "I'd like a lawyer."
-[X] "It's not a Master power."

Open cape > Take over New Wave > Take over BB > ??? > Profit
 
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[X] Plan: Lawyered up
-[X] Attempt to avoid Wards recruitment and…
--[X] ...try and join New Wave
-[X] Improving Brockton Bay. Your major virtue becomes Ambition (Make Brockton Bay a home I can be proud of)
-[X] "I'd like a lawyer."
-[X] "It's not a Master power."

Joining New Wave would be most ideal. If Vicky can get away with not having a Master power, we can just be a 'Social Thinker'.
 
I mean is New Wave even recruiting? Not to mention that they don't have that much sway or ways to protect Danny. It is a good option, but we should probably talk with them before we plan to join them.

As for the lawyer, Taylor is an unconfirmed human master without money (and with Coil probably knowing about us). I think that we very likely could be screwed over by the state lawyer who was unlucky enough to represent us.
 
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[X] Plan: We need a breather, We all need a breather
-[X] Attempt to avoid Wards recruitment and…
--[X] Write-in: Do some research before deciding major part of your life and maybe test your power firsts.
-[X] Improving Brockton Bay. Your major virtue becomes Ambition (Make Brockton Bay a home I can be proud of)
-[X] Write in: "Couldn't armmaster just give me something to write? I understand that I am now somehow very charismatic or even a Master, although I am not sure about that. Can you call my dad, I am worried about him, winslow had a lot of gang members and me getting powers was very public"
--[X] If he asks why we think that we aren't a master "I was bullied and then I gain powers, it was logical for them to not take risk to watch what I would do with those powers, me asking them to calm down meant that I won't go on a crazy revenge spree, so that was their main reason to fear gone."
--[X] If they are going to leave you for a long time after he leaves, ask for something to read or at least puzzles to kill time.
 
As it stands, the current vote is tied with 2 votes for each plan. If someone were to break that tie, I'd really appreciate it!
 
[X] Plan: Lawyered up

My motivation is that exaltation is a slow growing power, I don't want another quest slowing down into endless power testing so it's more a vote against the other vote. Keep charm use instinctual and Taylor surprised about what new bullshit she can do now. It also nicely makes for a narrative effect where everyone believes Taylor to be one of the many sandbagging parahumans, setting up a comedic narrative strand where many will think Taylor is more deceptive than she is.

A particularly galling plot beat in worm\exalted stories is the constant wards power testing.
 
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[X] Plan: We need a breather, We all need a breather
-[X] Attempt to avoid Wards recruitment and…
--[X] Write-in: Do some research before deciding major part of your life and maybe test your power firsts.
-[X] Improving Brockton Bay. Your major virtue becomes Ambition (Make Brockton Bay a home I can be proud of)
-[X] Write in: "Couldn't armmaster just give me something to write? I understand that I am now somehow very charismatic or even a Master, although I am not sure about that. Can you call my dad, I am worried about him, winslow had a lot of gang members and me getting powers was very public"
--[X] If he asks why we think that we aren't a master "I was bullied and then I gain powers, it was logical for them to not take risk to watch what I would do with those powers, me asking them to calm down meant that I won't go on a crazy revenge spree, so that was their main reason to fear gone."
--[X] If they are going to leave you for a long time after he leaves, ask for something to read or at least puzzles to kill time.

We are a Solar, a Zenith one at that, like i think is best for Taylor to grow on her own and become the queen she is now destined to be than trying to join a team, yes she can subvert it but she can also do that while having more freedom to act on her own way
 
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It is progress more votes is always good, worst case scenario you can start writing bettering the bay part as we all agree about it.
(also I recommend putting vote open banner with timer in the future)
My motivation is that exaltation is a slow growing power, I don't want another quest slowing down into endless power testing so it's more a vote against the other vote. Keep charm use instinctual and Taylor surprised about what new bullshit she can do now. It also nicely makes for a narrative effect where everyone believes Taylor to be one of the many sandbagging parahumans, setting up a comedic narrative strand where many will think Taylor is more deceptive than she is.

A particularly galling plot beat in worm\exalted stories is the constant wards power testing.
That is fair point, but I think at least basic testing is in character for Taylor, and is strategically good idea from meta perspective, PRT (and Coil) will operate on the outdated data after Taylor gets some more levels
 
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It is progress more votes is always good, worst case scenario you can start writing bettering the bay part as we all agree about it.
(also I recommend putting vote open banner with timer in the future)
Oh, of course more votes is always good! I just thought it was funny we went from tied at 2 to tied at 3. And thank you for the advice about the vote banner, I think I've turned it on now? Sorry, sorta new to this qm thing

Edit: Yes, I see the voting banner is on now. Neat, I'll be sure to use that in the future!
 
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I just think reading a New Wave fic would be interesting :> Not many fics focus on it. And demanding a lawyer and a parent / guardian is the first thing you should do when being interrogated
 
I just think reading a New Wave fic would be interesting :> Not many fics focus on it. And demanding a lawyer and a parent / guardian is the first thing you should do when being interrogated
That's fair, I just think New Wave is very much on life support. Said life support being Amy and Victoria, mostly Amy.

Could Exalted fix them... maybe, I just think that the movement is not worth saving; it was started to create cape accountability and yet it origin is in the BBB home invasion of Marquis's home; without a warrant and by law, they kidnapped his daughter; which wouldn't be that bad if Carol wasn't a bitch to Amy.

The fact that nowadays Glory Girl is only one regularly patrolling, and even she is not really accountable because Amy heals and keeps hidden all her cases of cape brutality...

Amy is doing good, she needs therapy, but for now, she is doing a lot of good.

I think that just contrast Exalted (maybe independent) Taylor with New Wave would make for exciting retrospection from people.
Also:
Glory Girl: You are just a copy
Taylor: No, I am an upgrade.
 
btw sidenote why I want to test powers before deciding if we should join wards/new wave/go independent:

Taylor needs to know what she can do (and so do I, who have 3rd hand knowledge of exalted) because if she is a brute who is bulletproof, great, she doesn't need an established group to make her a costume; she isn't, but she can make a costume? An established group could provide her budget/material or she can scavenge.

Also, it depends if PRT is mandated to help her protect Danny (beyond their standard duty of protecting average citizens).
With our outside knowledge, power testing is also a good way to play deterrent for the gangs who have infiltrators in PRT, a powerful cape you can blackmail with the safety of their parent is all and good, until you realise that you need to deal with someone who can cause more damage inside than from the outside and blant breaking of unwritten rule can push them to the other gang(or PRT) for revenge or of the rails and now you have (Un)holy combination of Heartbreaker and Alexandria wanting you dead.
 
Cool concept. I do think we are not going to beat the master allegations because in a sense we are one. Throw enough dice at a social roll and as far as the extras are concerned (and most of the world is extras) it might as well be mind control, though on the milder end of the scale. I do think we should try to make our own team rather than join the dysfunctional mess that is the New Wave. We are a Solar, we are in fact charismatic enough, especially with how many triggers this city has.

[X] Plan: We need a breather, We all need a breather
 
Cool concept. I do think we are not going to beat the master allegations because in a sense we are one. Throw enough dice at a social roll and as far as the extras are concerned (and most of the world is extras) it might as well be mind control, though on the milder end of the scale. I do think we should try to make our own team rather than join the dysfunctional mess that is the New Wave. We are a Solar, we are in fact charismatic enough, especially with how many triggers this city has.
Taylor on the PHO: I am about to pull a pro gamer move. Q&A.
If her powers work through writing, it would point to a social thinker and not a master.

I personally wonder if we could step away from direct cape fighting and focus on getting through politics to get the boat graveyard removed and start economic recovery.
 
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Taylor on the PHO: I am about to pull a pro gamer move. Q&A.
If her powers work through writing, it would point to a social thinker and not a master.

I personally wonder if we should step away from direct cape fighting and focus on getting through politics to get the boat graveyard removed and start economic recovery.

Wouldn't that just make her an even scarier master? The PRT classification are not like Exalted's where NMI and UMI are differentiated by their mechanism and the depth of their impact, they are threat assessment. If you are a good enough a fast enough social Thinker to social fu a PRT team into not wanting to fight you in combat time that's a master. We'd probably get ThinkerX/Master Y.
 
Wouldn't that just make her an even scarier master? The PRT classification are not like Exalted's where NMI and UMI are differentiated by their mechanism and the depth of their impact, they are threat assessment. If you are a good enough a fast enough social Thinker to social fu a PRT team into not wanting to fight you in combat time that's a master. We'd probably get ThinkerX/Master Y.
True, we probably should make Taylor research the laws about it; PRT is a government agency and can't actually punish Taylor if she doesn't break the law and given that Cannary only got got for forcing her exboyfriend to mutilate himself (and even that is iffy) just using master powers (when they are automatic) isn't illegal.

I think that we probably will end up as master 0-3 and thinker 6-7, given that if I understand correctly, exalted need to wramp up.
I am personally worried about Coil going after danny
 
True, we probably should make Taylor research the laws about it; PRT is a government agency and can't actually punish Taylor if she doesn't break the law and given that Cannary only got got for forcing her exboyfriend to mutilate himself (and even that is iffy) just using master powers (when they are automatic) isn't illegal.

I think that we probably will end up as master 0-3 and thinker 6-7, given that if I understand correctly, exalted need to wramp up.
I am personally worried about Coil going after danny

Coil does not really have a reason to go after us yet I think. What we have is useful to him, but that is not saying much. He set things up so he has use for any king of cape no matter the power and temperament. However he does not urgently need a low level Master and Brute, mid level combat Thinker. Coil does not know what a Solar Exlated is or the rate at which they grow. Hopefully by the time he does understand we will have the means to keep Danny safe.
 
btw sidenote why I want to test powers before deciding if we should join wards/new wave/go independent:

Taylor needs to know what she can do (and so do I, who have 3rd hand knowledge of exalted)
Hmm, I'll add descriptions of what your charms do to the character sheet, I don't want you guys wondering what Taylor is capable of
Taylor on the PHO: I am about to pull a pro gamer move. Q&A.
If her powers work through writing, it would point to a social thinker and not a master.

I personally wonder if we could step away from direct cape fighting and focus on getting through politics to get the boat graveyard removed and start economic recovery.
Writing in Exalted Essence is a Performance roll. Your Performance rating is lower than your Presence rating, and you don't have any Performance charms, so you're not as persuasive over text as you are in person. That can change though!

And the politics focus is an excellent idea! It is, after all, canonically a mayoral election year.
Wouldn't that just make her an even scarier master? The PRT classification are not like Exalted's where NMI and UMI are differentiated by their mechanism and the depth of their impact, they are threat assessment. If you are a good enough a fast enough social Thinker to social fu a PRT team into not wanting to fight you in combat time that's a master. We'd probably get ThinkerX/Master Y.
Worth noting that NMI and UMI do not exist as concepts in Exalted Essence, everything is just throwing dice/successes at people's Resolve for various effects. So it's open to interpretation how much is just you being really persuasive and how much is straight up mind control.

Also, vote seems pretty definitive at this point, so I'm gonna close it. Thanks for voting everyone!
 
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