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As a tentative vote:

[] Visit the birth-stones of the Knight of Frost, Thorned One, Sun Dragon, Kingmaker and Bronzeblade.
[] Take Pilgrims where you're going.
[] Go all at once to the Knight of Frost's site, but be quick about it for all of the others.

@Powerofmind
How long would this take?
Consider every vanilla 'be quick about it' combined with taking all the Pilgrims along as taking two weeks. If you leave them to their own devices, or simply give them Lien for escorts, be quick about it would be a week for two visits of your choice, and is otherwise the quickest option. All in all that combination specifically would probably take more than two months.
 
[] Visit the birth-stones of the Knight of Frost, Thorned One, Sun Dragon and Kingmaker.
[] Have the Pilgrims seek their own huntsmen escorts, aside from the Kingmaker. Take those who wish to visit his stone with you.
[] Go all at once to the Knight of Frost's site, but be quick about it for all of the others.

Knight of Frost is the most important to us, but I also wish to talk with Alonsus more.

@Powerofmind
How long would this take?
 
[] Visit the birth-stones of the Knight of Frost, Thorned One, Sun Dragon and Kingmaker.
[] Have the Pilgrims seek their own huntsmen escorts, aside from the Kingmaker. Take those who wish to visit his stone with you.
[] Go all at once to the Knight of Frost's site, but be quick about it for all of the others.

Knight of Frost is the most important to us, but I also wish to talk with Alonsus more.

@Powerofmind
How long would this take?
It would take around two weeks.
 
With slight modification, I offer:

[X] Visit the birth-stones of the Knight of Frost, Thorned One, Sun Dragon, Kingmaker and Bronzeblade.
[X] Have the Pilgrims seek their own huntsmen escorts, aside from the Kingmaker. Take those who wish to visit his stone with you.
[X] Go all at once to the Knight of Frost's site, but be quick about it for all of the others.
 
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@Powerofmind From Icipall's selected vote above, how much would it add for Lyra and personal companions only (no pilgrims) to visit the rest of the stones?
 
What are the pilgrims' plans after visiting all the stones we're willing to take them to? Are they expecting/hoping to be escorted back along the pilgrimage route? Where is their final destination?
Alonsus is traveling to Suxia after this. The first group is going as far as the Gorm Tribe. They expect nothing, pilgrims split and join like rain water.
 
Alonsus is traveling to Suxia after this. The first group is going as far as the Gorm Tribe. They expect nothing, pilgrims split and join like rain water.
So if we wanted to stay and do the rest ourselves faster, there's no hard feelings or leaving them out to dry basically? That's good at least.
 
Gods indeed, you consider, for the foundations of this city to be made by people who had less and knew less than we do now.

Could you explain what Lyra means by this? Have they forgotten everything about the old world?

For reference, Vale is a coastal city, that also borders the mountains in the center of the continent. In terms of size, it's a continuous walled ruin with the approximate square mileage of the state of New York. For a rough view of it on the first-page map, the ruins take up all three marked keeps in the Kingdom of Vale that don't border another country, and it creeps into a few of the ones above them, too. Holdings pockmark the edges and former enclosed farmland, and there's routes through them, but the city is so enormous that it would take you a long ass time to visit all the holy sites in and around it.

Holy shit. I have an idea for an Omake now.
 
Could you explain what Lyra means by this? Have they forgotten everything about the old world?



Holy shit. I have an idea for an Omake now.
Vale wasn't made on a whim by the highly advanced pre-fall remnanti, it was made by a bunch of settlers with a dream and a lot of manpower. It has expanded since it's founding, but all the tech lying around in After the End wasn't used to make those four cities.
 
Whoops, I forgot to actually do this.

[X] Visit the birth-stones of the Knight of Frost, Thorned One, Sun Dragon, Kingmaker and Bronzeblade.
[X] Have the Pilgrims seek their own huntsmen escorts, aside from the Kingmaker. Take those who wish to visit his stone with you.
[X] Go all at once to the Knight of Frost's site, but be quick about it for all of the others.
[X] Afterwards, visit the remaining four stones solely with Lyra's retinue.

Adding onto the existing vote. We're here, another week and a half is nothing compared to the time and effort traveling here and back, might as well do it proper.
 
Whoops, I forgot to actually do this.

[X] Visit the birth-stones of the Knight of Frost, Thorned One, Sun Dragon, Kingmaker and Bronzeblade.
[X] Have the Pilgrims seek their own huntsmen escorts, aside from the Kingmaker. Take those who wish to visit his stone with you.
[X] Go all at once to the Knight of Frost's site, but be quick about it for all of the others.
[X] Afterwards, visit the remaining four stones solely with Lyra's retinue.

Adding onto the existing vote. We're here, another week and a half is nothing compared to the time and effort traveling here and back, might as well do it proper.
Unless we're visiting with the pilgrims, aren't we visiting with just our retinue?
 
Unless we're visiting with the pilgrims, aren't we visiting with just our retinue?
It's unclear but there's some overlap of Lyra visiting the other sites with smaller groups of Pilgrims at some point along with them getting extra Huntsmen to save time, I think? I'm being specific that the stones that no other pilgrims are interested in mostly are also being visited by just Lyra (basically after her other responsibilities are discharged).
 
It's unclear but there's some overlap of Lyra visiting the other sites with smaller groups of Pilgrims at some point along with them getting extra Huntsmen to save time, I think? I'm being specific that the stones that no other pilgrims are interested in mostly are also being visited by just Lyra (basically after her other responsibilities are discharged).
The way I see it, aside from the Kingmaker, we'd be visiting all of the stones with just our retinue since we're not taking the pilgrims with us. And there wouldn't be extra Hunters unless we hired them.

@Powerofmind
Is it like this?
 
The way I see it, aside from the Kingmaker, we'd be visiting all of the stones with just our retinue since we're not taking the pilgrims with us. And there wouldn't be extra Hunters unless we hired them.
If we weren't taking the pilgrims with us in your vote, I'm not sure why you specified non-Knight of Frost/Kingmaker ones, since the others are only the ones that other pilgrims were interested in. Was that not your intent?
 
If we weren't taking the pilgrims with us in your vote, I'm not sure why you specified non-Knight of Frost/Kingmaker ones, since the others are only the ones that other pilgrims were interested in. Was that not your intent?
I specifically only wanted to take the pilgrims with us to the Kingmaker, since that hopefully gives Lyra a chance to talk more with Alonsus. The rest of the stones we would be going without pilgrims and have them search their own Hunter escorts.
 
The way I see it, aside from the Kingmaker, we'd be visiting all of the stones with just our retinue since we're not taking the pilgrims with us. And there wouldn't be extra Hunters unless we hired them.

@Powerofmind
Is it like this?
As the vote is written by Spectrum, you will take a long pilgrimage to the Knight's stone, followed by a visit to the Kingmaker's stone (be quick about it means everyone who wants to visit that one has to go in partitioned groups, so it will take over a week), followed by quick visits to all the other sites (you have curiously written the vote here, as Thorned One, Sun Dragon, and Shieldbearer are only visited by your group, while you also only visit the other four with your group in a different line entirely).
 
As the vote is written by Spectrum, you will take a long pilgrimage to the Knight's stone, followed by a visit to the Kingmaker's stone (be quick about it means everyone who wants to visit that one has to go in partitioned groups, so it will take over a week), followed by quick visits to all the other sites (you have curiously written the vote here, as Thorned One, Sun Dragon, and Shieldbearer are only visited by your group, while you also only visit the other four with your group in a different line entirely).
Hmm. Wasn't quite what I was looking for, though it might be what Icipall wanted.

May I have a time/reasonableness evaluation of:
[] Find Huntsman to assist with "be quick about it" in a timely fashion for the Sun Dragon's and the Nightwing's (and any other location that has notable pilgrim desire)
[] Go all together to the Knight of Frost and the Kingmaker's location with any pilgrims interested
[] Go with Lyra's Retinue only afterwards to all of the remaining locations
 
Ok, after thinking it over, here's my final vote:

[X] Visit all of the birthstones.
[X] Have the Pilgrims seek their own huntsmen escorts, aside from the Kingmaker. Take those who wish to visit his stone with you.
[X] Go all at once to the Knight of Frost's site, but be quick about it for all of the others.
 
Hmm. Wasn't quite what I was looking for, though it might be what Icipall wanted.

May I have a time/reasonableness evaluation of:
[] Find Huntsman to assist with "be quick about it" in a timely fashion for the Sun Dragon's and the Nightwing's (and any other location that has notable pilgrim desire)
[] Go all together to the Knight of Frost and the Kingmaker's location with any pilgrims interested
[] Go with Lyra's Retinue only afterwards to all of the remaining locations
-You can't be sure how long it will take, some huntsmen hold out for a payment (which your pilgrims can manage, but it's not a particularly large amount of money), but there's a non-zero number of Paladins who tend to offer free escort (though you have to wait your turn for them).
-Two weeks plus a day or so.
-Every two-ish locations is an extra week.
 
I think I'm okay with that.

[X] Find Huntsman to assist with "be quick about it" in a timely fashion for the Sun Dragon's and the Nightwing's (and any other location that has notable pilgrim desire)
[X] Go all together to the Knight of Frost and the Kingmaker's location with any pilgrims interested
[X] Go with Lyra's Retinue only afterwards to all of the remaining locations
 
[X] Find Huntsman to assist with "be quick about it" in a timely fashion for the Sun Dragon's and the Nightwing's (and any other location that has notable pilgrim desire)
[X] Go all together to the Knight of Frost and the Kingmaker's location with any pilgrims interested
[X] Go with Lyra's Retinue only afterwards to all of the remaining locations


Seems like a decent plan.
 
[X] Find Huntsman to assist with "be quick about it" in a timely fashion for the Sun Dragon's and the Nightwing's (and any other location that has notable pilgrim desire)
[X] Go all together to the Knight of Frost and the Kingmaker's location with any pilgrims interested
[X] Go with Lyra's Retinue only afterwards to all of the remaining locations
 
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