The Argent-Eyed Heiress (Naruto/Exalted)

Interesting, but the thing is, unless there's a mention I've forgotten, Lee doesn't use chakra for strength enhancement. It's pure brute strength. Only thing he uses chakra for is opening the Gates.

Maybe something like a charm equivalent to buy Strength/Stamina/Dexterity boosting internal mutations? With certain bloodlines starting with such a mutation?
He has chakra. And he needs to use it to boost his attributes or opening the Gates would do literally nothing for him.
 
I cannot into Exalted, but hey! My girl is gonna kick some ass!
[X] warping her flesh…
 
I feel the anima it too iconic for us to be locked out of. However while I forget the details of it Earthscorpion gave out rules at some point about how using the mote reactor is exhausting which means means characters can only run it for so many scenes before being unable to function. At stamina 2 she would probably collapse after a single scene of using the full anima, or even the mid power version. I believe it was stated that this was one of Keris's weaknesses in Kerisgame.

So the scene should go something like exaltation->kick ass->nap time.

No, Hinata definitely has the anima. It's just that generally the anima peters out on its own without any negative side-effects (other than being out of motes). It's learning how to harness the mote reactor that requires pushing yourself to withstand your own True PowerTM​.

Hmm.
With her style, training Dex to 5 would be a good thing too.

I should point out, Ninja can seemingly break the 5 dot limit on Attributes, as Lee has no jutsu, and 'definitely' as more than ten dots in Strength/Athletics.

Also, Dojutsu probably count as mutations that raise Perception by (at least) 1 dot, with other special abilities.

Well, I was going to avoid commenting on my thoughts for this kind of stuff, but... fuck it.

Having some kind of Attribute Excellency for Physical Attributes and maybe a halved one for Mental Attributes could make it work. Maybe a Excellency System using committed motes instead of spending them if you wanted to keep them cheap(er)? Would probably need to be comparatively weaker. Or a hybrid maybe, the motes used for the excellency are split so they're half-spent and half-committed.

The Chakra network being some kind of upgradable mutation increasing your mote pool as you train it, have Jutsu have a Handsign keyword and be able to buy the 12 Handsigns as cheap Charms only requiring awakened essence (or a Chakra Network if you're making them separate things).

My current very tentative thought process is to combine @Crilltic's Princess of Blades Chakra Rating system (shinobi are rated 1 to 10 in terms of threat) with @yrsillar's Forge of Destiny Enlightenment system. In sum, the higher rated you are on the chakra rating system, the more automatic successes you get against those of a lower rating than you are, with exponential advantages the higher you go. This would neatly model how a kage-level shinobi basically renders grunt shinobi irrelevant and would prevent me having to give kage some absurd attributes in order to model them.

To give you some idea of how it'd work, the Forge of Destiny system has three divisions in between each major increases in rank - low, mid, high - and between low, mid, high there's a single auto-success difference between each. So, for the purposes of Naruto, a high chuunin fighting a low chuunin would get 2 auto-successes against them. If you increase an entire rank, however, the difference becomes twice as large. A low jounin fighting a high chuunin would have 2 auto-successes over him, and a high jounin fighting a low chuunin would have 10 auto-successes over him. This doubles again if you go up yet another rank. A high jounin fighting a high genin would have 24 auto-successes over him.

Now, of course, these rankings are not the official ones - Naruto was a kage-level shinobi masquerading as a genin for like 99% of the series, and skill-wise Neji's already the equivalent of a chunin.

For Lee, there'd be an equivalent Physique Rating system. Chakra Rating would be far more important (not sure how yet), but for every rank up in Physique you get to expand the limits of your physical dice pools. Also, probably, some vague nods at speed: every rank up your speed increases by some vague formula that basically means 'goes real fast' and, every physique rank difference (not division) against an opponent means you get to act two ticks to their one.

The Eight Gates permits you to forcibly increase your physique rating, with the final gate permitting you to literally rank yourself higher than the highest rank - but only for X actions and then you die. :V

But, like I said, I'm not great at mechanics, the numbers are there to give everyone a general idea of what's going on. Also, these auto-successes only apply to individual combat: social combat remains an even playing field save for the bonus willpower having a higher ranked chakra rating gives you.

All this remains quite tentative.
 
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Why the eyes?
1) Thematically it fits better. Hinata is a Hyuuga. Getting a powerup that deals with her eyes and perception fits the best. And if you take her personal history, revealing people who are trying to hide for all to see is a great power for her.

2) Shenanigans with Orochimaru's copies in the curse seal, bijuus, spirits of reincarnates hovering over Naruto and Sasuke, possibly actual ghosts (like Kakashi's dad) are very fun (or at least I think they could be)

3) A second purchase allows us to render immaterial beings touchable. Ie "f*ck you, Tobi, die".

I have very little idea (ie don't remember at all) what "Full Moon" means exactly in terms of castes, but eye power is appropriate and leads to fun later. Plus, it's in the name of the quest itself.
 
1) To your thematics argument I present mutations. Bloodlines are mutations. So are curse seals.
I'm interested in seeing what happens if we can copy a Sharingan and run it simultaneously with a Byakugan; doesn't even require killing Saucekid to pull it off.

2) Orochimaru has no link with Hinata's story at the moment. Frankly, neither does Tobi.
And Tobi is not immaterial; what he has is a modified Perfect Dodge.
 
1) To your thematics argument I present mutations. Bloodlines are mutations. So are curse seals.
I'm interested in seeing what happens if we can copy a Sharingan and run it simultaneously with a Byakugan; doesn't even require killing Saucekid to pull it off.

2) Orochimaru has no link with Hinata's story at the moment. Frankly, neither does Tobi.
And Tobi is not immaterial; what he has is a modified Perfect Dodge.
Curse seals are not mutations - they are graft-type (craft:genesis, likely) artifacts. Like artificial wings and such.

Tobi uses perfect dodge by becoming immaterial.
 
Curse seals are not mutations - they are graft-type (craft:genesis, likely) artifacts. Like artificial wings and such.
Disagree strongly.
We see the entire process by which Sasuke got his curse seal, and then evolved it.
And for the purposes of TAW, I quote:
Mutations model a characters' inhuman aspects, ranging from natural traits like a dog's fur or raiton's wings to the deformities inflicted by the Wyld. They are not outright supernatural features; gods lack conventional biology, and need no mutation to represent their subsistence on prayer. They are divided like Attributes; physical mutations include acid spit or wings, while social mutations encompass traits like hypnotic plumage or a booming voice, and mental mutations represent conditions like hallucinations or inhuman reflexes.
The mutations presented in this section are heavily customisable, but not a comprehensive list. The Storyteller is encouraged to create new effects as necessary, comparing existing mutations to cost them appropriately. Some magic exists that grants enlightened Essence or status as a creature of darkness. Though not listed here, these conditions are considered a six-point positive and four-point negative mutation, respectively.
Those are mutations by TAW definition.
Biological changes installed by Craft: Genesis would also be mutations.

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To be precise, a curse seal user translated to TAW terms is using the Alternate Form mutation to activate a bunch of associated mutations for a superform.
Alternate Form (2)
Any number of other mutations the creature possesses are grouped into a single set, which must have an overall positive cost. These mutations normally have no effect, and are Internal. The set can be manifested or re-hidden, in its entirety, with an unflurryable miscellaneous action costing one Willpower or three motes.
That's it.
Nothing unheard of or unaccounted for.
Tobi uses perfect dodge by becoming immaterial.
Disagree.
We see his technique explained in canon in detail; he shifts his body into what amounts to a sanctum.
No state change involved.

There is precisely one clan that uses immaterial techniques: The Yamanaka.
Dan Kato also specialized in that as well, but he was S-class. And dead.
And Tayuya used immaterial summons.

That's it.
Adhoc vote count started by uju32 on Sep 1, 2017 at 4:47 AM, finished with 67 posts and 36 votes.

Adhoc vote count started by uju32 on Sep 1, 2017 at 5:30 AM, finished with 68 posts and 37 votes.
 
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Wake up in middle of night, notice this exists, and heeeeeeeellllllll yessss

[X] reaching her eyes…
 
Disagree strongly.
We see the entire process by which Sasuke got his curse seal, and then evolved it.
And for the purposes of TAW, I quote:
Those are mutations by TAW definition.
Biological changes installed by Craft: Genesis would also be mutations.

Apologies, but no. Mutations are essentially a way of representing low power modifications to the body. For example, stacking damage and soak mutations, you can become about as dangerous as someone in full plate armour carrying a two-handed weapon. Which you could also do by just wearing armour and carrying a big sword.

To put it another way; all mutations are modifications to the body, but not all modifications to the body are mutations. Infernal Shintai Charms, for example, are too powerful to be represented by mutations except when the point of the Shintai is something like Devil Tyrant Avatar Shintai which is just like "Yo, have Essence x 10 mutation points to build a boss monster form". But something like the Greater Shintai of the Endless Desert, which turns you into a mile wide Imhotep sandstorm-desert is outside the scope of mutations. Or, indeed, simply most Permanent Charms modify the user's body in some way, but they're not mutations. Hell, the Shapechange Spirit Charm isn't a mutation.

What Cursed Seals do is outside the scope of what the Mutation system can support - at least in the ways that matter. I mean, sure, Sasuke's hand-wings can be represented that way, but that's just what the Curse Seal is doing. The core of it is the power boost, not the relatively minor modifications and that's not a mutation. And this matters for Lunars, because... well, you know, it's kind bad (and disrespectful to the Naruto setting) if Hinata can just get the benefits of a Curse Seal as a mutation that she can turn off. Curse Seals are cursed power that comes at a great cost, and that narrative role should be respected.

I feel the anima it too iconic for us to be locked out of. However while I forget the details of it Earthscorpion gave out rules at some point about how using the mote reactor is exhausting which means means characters can only run it for so many scenes before being unable to function. At stamina 2 she would probably collapse after a single scene of using the full anima, or even the mid power version. I believe it was stated that this was one of Keris's weaknesses in Kerisgame.

So the scene should go something like exaltation->kick ass->nap time.

Here are the current rules for how anima reactor exhaustion kicks in.

So, yeah, a totemic flare is probably going to wipe most characters out until they rest. Even a bonfire flare is something you avoid unless you're pressed.
 
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What Cursed Seals do is outside the scope of what the Mutation system can support - at least in the ways that matter. I mean, sure, Sasuke's hand-wings can be represented that way, but that's just what the Curse Seal is doing. The core of it is the power boost, not the relatively minor modifications and that's not a mutation. And this matters for Lunars, because... well, you know, it's kind bad (and disrespectful to the Naruto setting) if Hinata can just get the benefits of a Curse Seal as a mutation that she can turn off. Curse Seals are cursed power that comes at a great cost, and that narrative role should be respected.
Way I see it the closest thing I can find to a cursed seal in Exalted is probably those moonsilver tattoos...
 
... *sigh* At least no one's voting for No Moon (the physical class). Or almost no one by this point.
It's been said before, but No Moon is the Mental Attribute-focused class specializing in Perception, Intelligence & Wits. It's just being offered as part of the physical package here for some reason.
 
It's been said before, but No Moon is the Mental Attribute-focused class specializing in Perception, Intelligence & Wits. It's just being offered as part of the physical package here for some reason.
Well take that one up with Fixer. I did have the right one apparently and then checked the opening post:
[ ] seeping into her fists…
Charms: Strength Excellency + Blow for Blow. Strength increased to 4. No Moon.

[ ] reaching her eyes…
Charms: Perception Excellency + Hidden Devil Parade + Crushing Gorgon Glare. Full Moon.
He has No Moon as the physical and Full as the Mental.
 
Well take that one up with Fixer.
Take what thing up?

He has No Moon as the physical and Full as the Mental.
The QM has a list of Physical Charms offered along with No Moon Phase. Charms are not the same thing as Instinctive Attributes. Your Instinctive Attributes are determined by your Phase.

I'm not sure why you would assume I have some sort of issue with the QM when all I did was offer information from the rules linked in the first post of the thread. Sure, it would be a natural assumption to make that No Moon was physical... if you never bothered to read the link.
 
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Take what thing up?

The QM has a list of Physical Charms offered along with No Moon Phase. Charms are not the same thing as Instinctive Attributes. Your Instinctive Attributes are determined by your Phase.

I'm not sure why you would assume I have some sort of issue with the QM when all I did was offer information from the rules linked in the first post of the thread. Sure, it would be a natural assumption to make that No Moon was physical... if you never bothered to read the link.
You might not, but literally everyone else is probably looking at them and going Eyes = Mental and Fists = Physical caste.

And for your information, I read the entire thing yesterday. People mix this up sometimes, who would have guessed.
 
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