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I don't like saberfaces much, but summoning Hassans doesn't mesh as well narratively.
Fate/Kaleid Emiya: Oath Under The Snow (Miyuverse Shirou in F/SN Quest)
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I don't like saberfaces much, but summoning Hassans doesn't mesh as well narratively.
nicklzh
Plan? What plan?
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I'm pretty sure the pros and cons about Serenity vs Arturia had already been discussed so I won't add on to that part.
I'll just say that picking one or the other will start you on a certain victory condition depending on circumstances ( that can change later on too).
Medea, after all, can be creative on how to get that wish.
I'll just say that picking one or the other will start you on a certain victory condition depending on circumstances ( that can change later on too).
Medea, after all, can be creative on how to get that wish.
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Really, for those who are bandwagoning, if we could get 9 from each category to switch we could get Astolfo instead! (Having just clicked through the votes there's at least 6 on either side who voted in an attempt to deny the other, and that's only those who vocalised it).
That said I'm sticking with Saber for now, since I really don't want Assassin... We'd need to plan out the shift to avoid making a mess of things.
That said I'm sticking with Saber for now, since I really don't want Assassin... We'd need to plan out the shift to avoid making a mess of things.
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Shirou wanted a servant that could act in the shadows, and who would not be opposed to using underhanded methods. Also, with his experience in the Ainsworth Grail War, he knew that he didn't need firepower, as he already has enough.
Thus, instead of summoning a chivalrous knight that would have poor compatibility with him, he summoned an Assassin that would be more accepting of his methods, and would cover up one of the areas he's lacking in; stealth. Add to that the fact that he would be denying his enemies the chance of summoning a stealthy assassin with unknown powers, and Sabers are rather predictable too (Me hit with sword. Me have huge beam).
Really, what I don't see is why we would summon Saber of all classes, and King Arthur at that. Rider or Archer I could understand, but Saber?
Demojay
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Another reason to pick Serenity over Arturia is that FSN-Shirou has Avalon while we don't. This means that it will be much easier to keep him alive if Saber is with him since Avalon only gives limited immortality when you are in a contract with Saber and constantly near her.
That too. We really don't need him to end up getting killed while we're off doing other things, and Illya is very much still after him.
Normal Shirou and Saber are good on their own. Let's get some variety and stuff!!!
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Saber is the lesser evil to me as no other choice beats Serenity. Personally, I'd rather get Robin Hood or alternate forms of other HS with their stealth phantasms like Seigfried's cloak or Arturia Alter with Carnwennan(?).
Also, Shirou and Medea working together can be the spooks a la Kerry and Maiya while Saber repeats her role in F/Z with less mindbreak.
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Replace Shirou by Assassin and Saber by Shirou, and you got the same plan, with the added benefit that FSN Shirou will not horribly die due to Avalon not working.
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Avalon works fine as long Saber herself is around, FSN Shirou doesn't need to be her master. And Pain Breaker works just as well provided he doesn't follow Fate route and do things like tank Herc's axesword or have a sword contest with Gil, which should both be butterflied anyhow.
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Saber has to be close to FSN Shirou, and she will not be close to him if she's fighting other servants under a separate master, while Shirou has his own servant,
Pain breaker cannot cure the dead, and are you honestly telling me FSN Shirou will not try to jump in front of his nerfed!Servant if he thinks they're in danger? In fact, what if Assassin attacks the weak link while we're away? He won't have Avalon's protection and will undoubtedly die.
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How would they have been butterflied away?
AnonymousRabbit
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Hold that line with your lives Hassans. Hold that line.
[X] Serenity, Assassin
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Are you seriously telling me the Fate route has any chance of still happening with all that's happened and the deviations we'll continue to pull off?
And remember that the master canon Medea killed is still around as well.
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So the specific situation is butterflied.
Shirou being an idiot that jumps in front of servant attacks has not been butterflied. Heracles and Ilya have not been butterflied. Gilgamesh has not been butterflied.
Demojay
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We killed him in the first update.
EDIT: Oh, you meant the original master of Assassin. Don't mind me.
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And his involvement in the war by witnessing the Archer-Lancer fight can't be? Will Shinji even be around by then to cause it? Will there be a Bloodfort deployed to have Rin engage Lancer at school? We're derailing things quite a bit before the VN starts.
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I was refering to herk introducing shiro to his big old stone sword. That is still a possibility since Ilya is still on course. Gilgamesh is pretty much unpredictable unless your the author since his power esstially makes him a plot device in most cases.
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... Do you honestly think there's a chance in hell of this world's Shirou not getting involved in the Grail War, without us very directly acting to stop it (and maybe even then)?