But the strongest enemy isn't, and that's the problem. And we dealt with several of them already (sakura/rider/caster)

Who's left
Rin
Illya
Shirou?
Assassin master?
Kirei?

2/5 master + 1/5 servant (Saber)
 
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Shirou's going after Zouken next, so summoning a saint could be helpful. Also, that Jason option.:rofl:

Zouken definitely knows about Sakura getting purged of all the worms, so who knows what he'll get up to if he isn't killed quickly.
 
Half the masters are women and/or children

Gilgamesh: "A War that mucks around with women and children." ... something something Zasshu.

Shirou's going after Zouken next, so summoning a saint could be helpful. Also, that Jason option.:rofl:

Zouken definitely knows about Sakura getting purged of all the worms, so who knows what he'll get up to if he isn't killed quickly.

There is technically a small chance of summoning Atalanta or one of the other Argonaut's but then the Golden Fleece would have been a serious Gacha simulator.

Some people might think EMIYA would be tremendously dissapointed and all, but Miyu's Shirou is definitely different from normal Shirou despite the similarities.

Miyu Shirou went through war fields, understood that Justice is ruthless (see Karna roasting EMIYA), had nearly zero friends (No Taiga, No Shinji, No Issei, No Ayako), wasn't as close to Sakura as normal Shirou, his best friend took his sister which was by then his entire world.

Unlike Shirou who was preparing to be useful to everyone, Miyu Shirou had to live the dream with Miyu the Child of God being with him for years.

The means of being an Ally of Justice wa right there and until he made his choice, he spent every day agonizing over it and finding out how to use Miyu.

 
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[X] Bide your time and work with Caster to make an exorcism Mystic Code, use it to banish Zouken. Who cares about Shinji? You can go punch him whenever you want.
[X] Brahmastra (Rama, Saber… with Sita beingsomewhere and sad stuff will happen)

Probably not going to win, but oh well.
 
Aaaand we went then canon route, because people don't want Jack the Ripper.

Good. I'd jump the Medusa train too if Jackie was winning.

She's simply not helpful here.
In Apocrypha he's pretty pitiful and boring and causes the existence of one of the most lame characters in the entire Nasuverse, and in Grand Order his uselessness in all but extremely specific situations is a bigger meme than it is for Aquaman. He's designed to be heavily specialized in killing dragons, but 99% of the time that dragons appear, even Sasaki Koujiro is better at killing them than he is.
Gameplay =/= Actual power

Siegfried's anti-Dragon properties give him an advantage against the Rider Artoria that would have been summoned. His two NPs, Armor of Fanfir and Balmug, allow him to hold his own against and one-shot Heracles in a place where collateral isn't an issue (UBW). Cu can't harm him without using Gae-Bolg's heart-seeking mode.

This leaves Assassin, who's unknown, and Gilgamesh, who could take on everyone in the summoning list.

So no, Siegfried is not useless.
 
[X] Some Knives (Jack the Ripper, Assassin)

Well, if I can't have Lily then Shirou will just need to collect more little sisters.
 
[X] Bide your time and work with Caster to make an exorcism Mystic Code, use it to banish Zouken. Who cares about Shinji? You can go punch him whenever you want.

[X] The Image of the Strongest Holy Sword in existence (Roll 1d10, 1-6 for normal Saber, 7-8 for MHX, 9-10 for Darth Maul MHXA
 
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[X] Kiritsugu always said that a precision missile strike can solve many problems, you wonder why he told you that on Mother's Day… it's time to nuke the worm nest.
[X] The Image of the Strongest Holy Sword in existence (Roll 1d10, 1-6 for normal Saber, 7-8 for MHX, 9-10 for Darth Maul MHXA)
 
[X] Kiritsugu always said that a precision missile strike can solve many problems, you wonder why he told you that on Mother's Day… it's time to nuke the worm nest.
[X] Caliburn (Roll 1d10, 1-8 for Saber Lily, 9-10 for Arturia Pendragon)
Even if it's futile...
 
Half the masters are women and/or children
I'm more concerned when it comes to Servants, Against Illya Jack will be useful no doubt. Even if we kill Rin the Archer Class has the Independent Action Personal Skill so taking her out may not be as helpful as we would like it to be. Caster in this one is one our side, Kirei is a guy so is Gilgamesh so she won't do well there. Also there's the problem with Sakura if we kill Shinji the servant the Matou's Summoned returns to her and this Shirou won't kill Sakura.

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Even if it's futile...
voting for the option that appeals to you the most is never futile
 
I'm more concerned when it comes to Servants, Against Illya Jack will be useful no doubt. Even if we kill Rin the Archer Class has the Independent Action Personal Skill so taking her out may not be as helpful as we would like it to be. Caster in this one is one our side, Kirei is a guy so is Gilgamesh so she won't do well there. Also there's the problem with Sakura if we kill Shinji the servant the Matou's Summoned returns to her and this Shirou won't kill Sakura.

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voting for the option that appeals to you the most is never futile

That's why we need Hassan! Of Serenity!!!

She's the most useful Hassan to get after all!!! And she's bae!!!

Random chance is sure to bless us!!! Probably!!!
 
That's why we need Hassan! Of Serenity!!!

She's the most useful Hassan to get after all!!! And she's bae!!!

Random chance is sure to bless us!!! Probably!!!
question are we immune to her poison like the protagonist from Grand Order or do we need protective equipment?
 
question are we immune to her poison like the protagonist from Grand Order or do we need protective equipment?
Medea can make some protective equipment or just keep stabbing you with Pain Breaker.

Serenity pretty much will get stomped by Medea as she's immune to all poisons and the Argos spell makes her skin tough like Berserker Heracles's God Hand.
 
[x] Kiritsugu always said that a precision missile strike can solve many problems, you wonder why he told you that on Mother's Day… it's time to nuke the worm nest.
[x] A few dirks (Random Hassan, Assassin)

Sure I am willing to switch to start this gatcha roll could be fun.
 
Also there's the problem with Sakura if we kill Shinji the servant the Matou's Summoned returns to her and this Shirou won't kill Sakura.

Uh, we didn't we just steal Sakura's Command Seals? Unless Zouken can create new Command Seals (which to be fair, isn't out of the realm of possibility) the Matou's aren't going to be able to summon a Servant.
 
[x] Kiritsugu always said that a precision missile strike can solve many problems, you wonder why he told you that on Mother's Day… it's time to nuke the worm nest.
[x] A few dirks (Random Hassan, Assassin)
 
question are we immune to her poison like the protagonist from Grand Order or do we need protective equipment?

We have Caster who's immune to poison. If it works anything like Ritsuka's connection with Mash, then ideally we should also be immune.

And if not, then I'm sure she can make a work around for it.
 
[x] Kiritsugu always said that a precision missile strike can solve many problems, you wonder why he told you that on Mother's Day… it's time to nuke the worm nest.
[x] A few dirks (Random Hassan, Assassin)

Altera isn't winning, so ONBOARD THE HASSAN TRAIN!!!
 
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Trimmed Vote!

Okay then, I'll put up a new vote based on the most voted ones along with a few I missed. Viva la Populism!

I'll let this sit here for maybe 24 hours. I'll work on a Sakura interlude maybe for the time in between the Dr.Gil heart surgery and the summoning.

Don't worry about the Zouken vote, I'll just tally from the previous threadmark for that one.

[ ] Serenity, Assassin

[ ] Medusa, Rider

[ ] Saberface (Roll 1d10, 1-6 for normal Saber, 7-8 for MHX, 9-10 for Darth Maul MHXA)

[ ] Arturia (Roll 1d10, 1-8 for Saber Lily, 9-10 for Arturia Pendragon)

[ ] Rama, Saber

[ ] Altera, Saber

[ ] Jack the Ripper, Assassin

[ ] Atalanta, Archer

[ ] Astolfo, Rider

[ ] EMIYA, Archer
nicklzh threw 2 6-faced dice. Reason: 1 Total: 4
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nicklzh threw 3 10-faced dice. Reason: 1 Total: 13
3 3 4 4 6 6
 
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