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Winter is Coming: House Stark Quest

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[X] King's Landing will take time to rebuild, but it has served as the heart of the Seven Kingdoms for three centuries. You will move your court there in time, and until then rule Westeros from somewhere else.


We literally own all of Kings landing now and can remake it in our image, with proper sewer systems. Plus it's location at a confluence of rivers and the sea is perfect for trade and communications.

Storm's end is too isolated whilst Harrenhall is cursed and too inland. We can make Harrenhall later on into a great fortress in which our enemies need to assault before they can threaten the capital. As for Storm's end, it can go to a second son as their seat.

As for the North, if we want to be selfish, it can be a crown possession like the duchy of Lancaster.
 
[x] The old King's Landing was too badly profaned by the wildfire. Like Harrenhal, that ground is cursed. The new King's Landing will be raised on the southern banks of the Blackwater.

Winterfell would be entertaining but it's too remote, Dragonstone's too isolated, Storm's End belongs to Shireen, Harrenhal should just be exorcised and dismantled and honesty after the wildfire shenanigans King's Landing 1.0 ain't much better off. Rebuilding in that area's the smart move, but let's try and minimize the angry ghost population of our court as much as possible, yeah?
 
[x] King's Landing will take time to rebuild, but it has served as the heart of the Seven Kingdoms for three centuries. You will move your court there in time, and until then rule Westeros from somewhere else.

We have a chance to build a properly planned city! With sewers! :D
None of that nonsense with winding streets and shit-covered slums.
 
[x] King's Landing will take time to rebuild, but it has served as the heart of the Seven Kingdoms for three centuries. You will move your court there in time, and until then rule Westeros from somewhere else.

Kings Landing being destroyed is not the most ideal but trying to take Harrenhal which is still in Riverland territory thus Tully land is bad, Storm's End is currently under Selyse who will not be made happier with her last of territory taken, and both Dragonstone and Winterfell are too isolated from the other subjects. Now I fully expect complication from not having a secure fortress to rule.
 
[x] King's Landing will take time to rebuild, but it has served as the heart of the Seven Kingdoms for three centuries. You will move your court there in time, and until then rule Westeros from somewhere else.
 
[X] King's Landing will take time to rebuild, but it has served as the heart of the Seven Kingdoms for three centuries. You will move your court there in time, and until then rule Westeros from somewhere else.

Best place for a capital. Simple as that.
 
Guys, we can build a canal between Harrenhall and King's Landing because it's a Westeros quest. Canals ftw.
 
[X] King's Landing will take time to rebuild, but it has served as the heart of the Seven Kingdoms for three centuries. You will move your court there in time, and until then rule Westeros from somewhere else.


Get this sorted out and then deal with Dorne and Aegon, which will probably be a pain. Not because of their numbers, but because we'll have to split our forces to two fronts that are a good distance away from each other. And half of the this could have been avoided if we made a deal with Arianne or something.
 
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[x] King's Landing will take time to rebuild, but it has served as the heart of the Seven Kingdoms for three centuries. You will move your court there in time, and until then rule Westeros from somewhere else.
 
[x] King's Landing will take time to rebuild, but it has served as the heart of the Seven Kingdoms for three centuries. You will move your court there in time, and until then rule Westeros from somewhere else.

Enough fucking around with borders, if we take Harrenhal we'd have to redraw it again. Also I can't believe that the Northern Starks will have fookin frey blood in them. Are we sure that Bran can't produce heirs ?
 
godofsmallthings said:
Enough fucking around with borders, if we take Harrenhal we'd have to redraw it again. Also I can't believe that the Northern Starks will have fookin frey blood in them. Are we sure that Bran can't produce heirs ?
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We're still the heir of Winterfell. We can have the North go to a second son, or a third son since we also need an heir for the Stormlands.
 
Duesal said:
We're still the heir of Winterfell. We can have the North go to a second son, or a third son since we also need an heir for the Stormlands.
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I'd still prefer it be Bran. That way we can easily get a favorable marriage alliance with a northern house and have a proper northern lady.

And nothing's confirmed yet. Maybe Robb's just assuming and he's wrong? After all, we haven't heard from Ned yet, and Willas was still the heir to the Reach in canon despite being a cripple.
 
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We're still the heir of Winterfell. We can have the North go to a second son, or a third son since we also need an heir for the Stormlands.
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The stormlands are close enough to the Crownlands to be folded into it to make a contiguous territory. It'd also provide badly needed personal demesne as a bulwark against the extremely powerful Lords paramounts. Twice in recent history have the Lords rebelled and without dragons to back up their rule, the King is extremely vulnerable.

The Targayen rule ran on inertia after their dragons demise. Robert's rule was based on the strength of five of the paramountcies namely the North, the Vale, the Riverlands, Westerlands and the Stormlands.

If we want to avoid periodic civil wars or an extremely weak central authority, the Crown demesne needs to grow-at the expense of all other powers.

Or else we could get dragons to back our rule. That'd be convenient if false Aegon and our betrothed dies, leaving us an option to wed the dragon Princess.
 
[X] Your kinswoman already rejected Rickon as her heir, but your claim to Harrenhal is strong and you could take it after her death.
 
godofsmallthings said:
Also I can't believe that the Northern Starks will have fookin frey blood in them. Are we sure that Bran can't produce heirs ?
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Rickon's betrothed could be one of the decent or even good Freys (considering how many Freys there are there have to be at least a few good eggs). And while the girl was described as 'plain', at least that's better than the typical weasel look most Freys have.
 
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[X] King's Landing will take time to rebuild, but it has served as the heart of the Seven Kingdoms for three centuries. You will move your court there in time, and until then rule Westeros from somewhere else.
 
Genji said:
The stormlands are close enough to the Crownlands to be folded into it to make a contiguous territory. It'd also provide badly needed personal demesne as a bulwark against the extremely powerful Lords paramounts. Twice in recent history have the Lords rebelled and without dragons to back up their rule, the King is extremely vulnerable.

The Targayen rule ran on inertia after their dragons demise. Robert's rule was based on the strength of five of the paramountcies namely the North, the Vale, the Riverlands, Westerlands and the Stormlands.

If we want to avoid periodic civil wars or an extremely weak central authority, the Crown demesne needs to grow-at the expense of all other powers.

Or else we could get dragons to back our rule. That'd be convenient if false Aegon and our betrothed dies, leaving us an option to wed the dragon Princess.
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This is a great idea!
We are marrying the girl thats heiress of not just the iron throne but the stormlands, thats all the claim we need.
 
[X] King's Landing will take time to rebuild, but it has served as the heart of the Seven Kingdoms for three centuries. You will move your court there in time, and until then rule Westeros from somewhere else.
 
NúmenoreanNazgûl said:
[X] King's Landing will take time to rebuild, but it has served as the heart of the Seven Kingdoms for three centuries. You will move your court there in time, and until then rule Westeros from somewhere else.

Technically Harrenhal would be closer to the center of the realm, but coasts are better for trade and Blackwater Bay is very defensible.

Rickon also seems to be the heir to Winterfell now.

Since Bran's apparently been skipped over for the Wardenship of the North, maybe we should give him something else. Dragonstone? A rebuilt Moat Cailin? One of the Iron Isles after Balon and his Ironmen inevitably rebel and we put them down? He would be useful to have as a spymaster if he can develop his green sight w/o Bloodraven?

Hey @Charcolt, will Robb (and the other Stark kids) get the chance to develop the warging ability, and Bran his greenseeing?
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Robb and Eddard both have no intention of fucking over Bran. But realistically speaking, neither is certain of his future. Rickon is seen by most people as a safer bet, but that could change if Bran shows himself to still be capable (particularly if he were to wed and father heirs).

Ned's absurd escape from death took away some of the Sansa and Arya chapters I had planned, but those abilities will still come into play, yes.
 
[X] King's Landing will take time to rebuild, but it has served as the heart of the Seven Kingdoms for three centuries. You will move your court there in time, and until then rule Westeros from somewhere else.
 
[X] You'll rule from the Iron Isles... then change your mind and rebuild King's Landing anyway.

Fuck the Ironborn.

Also @Charcolt I just binged this quest and shit moved really really quickly. Was it due to good die rolls or what? Like, since Ned went home, there's been very little narrative tension as far as challenge is concerned. Threats pop up and are immediately resolved for a few updates. Is it just not meant to be read all at once like that? No offense intended, since, obviously, I read the entire thing.
 
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