Yeah, I think you're thinking of inducti who were space marines in basically name and body alone, which was only done during the HH when numbers of GC veterans were greatly depleted or the legions were bled to the bone and rapidly needed to replenish their numbers or risk permanent inoperability. Also, 30k era Space Marines had more DAOT tech lying around, but I will give you that armor types improved, and more selective recruitment and longer training periods take place in 40k. It's also fair to point out that the type of combat the space marines were trained and equipped to fight in are vastly different between 30k and 40k. I was merely under the impression that 30k Space Marines had better training and arms due to their primarchs still being around and Mars being able to churn out the good stuff.30k Legions had horrific attrition rates and we know it was common in the early GC to take what would be seen as Scouts in 40k, put them in heavy gear, throw them at the frontlines, and then feed the flesh/brains of the death to new Recruits and survivors so that they'd immediately inherit some of the skills and memories, and then repeat the cycle.
Multiple Legions went nearly extinct before the rediscovery of their Primarchs. And after that, such practices fell out of favor.
Actually I suppose these Marines would get along pretty well with Illuminatans.
40k Astartes arent considered Battle Brothers until decades of service in the 10th Company, and by the time they are promoted, they are on average some of the most well trained and experienced warriors in the Galaxy.
Different doctrines, and even then the Legions are reliant on their Primarchs being around to provide fresh genetic samples for new geneseed farms. Something that Chapters do not have and have to carefully husband.
Edit: Oh, I see you were talking about the Astartes before they received their legion names. Yeah, I would tend to agree that those Astartes paled to 40k ones in most ways.
Edit: Also, Big E had yet to perfect the Astartes creation process super early on during the GC. And Im sure training, equipment, and recruitment all improved when the primarchs came into the picture.
Edit: Although, would you give me that 30k Astartes were taught to be more tactically flexible and less specialized? In 40k you have alot of chapters good at specific things or areas of combat, like urban warfare, and more average at other things working together, whereas in 30k you have Astartes fighting on many different battlefields, having to adopt tactics on the fly/improvise.
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