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Knight of Wessex (A Written World Quest)

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TehChron said:
My preference is for it to be a Severance Finale though, simply because the cryptid theming seems so much more fitting for that
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I think the main reason to put the Charge of Doom in Hordebreaker is to limit the Training penalties from having too many Finales in one Martial Style. We start eating penalties on the third Finale, and putting this in Severance and getting Severing Stroke would immediately fill up Severance's free space, when we haven't unlocked all that much of the weird fuckery that it can do. Putting it in Hordebreaker leaves more space in Severance, and fits in arguably better with the Style theme. Plus, Hordebreaker is unlikely I think to go past 3 Finales in it ever (Charge, Sacred Circle, Embrace the Void), and Void is a later on thing so we can probably eat the training penalty by the time we pick it up
 
Nepcalibur said:
Would making a final with Light be possible?
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Finales are all affiliated with a Martial Style, but can include stuff from other things.

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Edit: Do we really need to make a final to break a bunch of mooks?
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The plan, as I understand it, is to execute the leader and take care of the mooks as well via morale break. Whether you need that is a completely different question that I as a QM will not comment on.
 
Nepcalibur said:
Would making a final with Light be possible?

Edit: Do we really need to make a final to break a bunch of mooks?
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Yes?

Look at the fight Audrey had before arriving dealing with those raiders. Imagine just morale shocking like half of them in a single strike, before Audrey just tears through the rest of them with total abandon until getting interrupted by that Windhammer dude.

Even in Audrey's ideal combat scenario, she still only wound up tearing through a total of thirteen mooks with nearly perfect play. She can, and should, be able to do better when it comes to dealing with the West Argelia forces when they come for Wessex.
 
Nepcalibur said:
Would making a final with Light be possible?

Edit: Do we really need to make a final to break a bunch of mooks?
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Finale's are tied to Martial Styles as the epitome of the Style so we would need a Martial Style reliant on having the Light Revelation first probably.

TehChron said:
Yes?



Look at the fight Audrey had before arriving dealing with those raiders. Imagine just morale shocking like half of them in a single strike, before Audrey just tears through the rest of them with total abandon until getting interrupted by that Windhammer dude.



Even in Audrey's ideal combat scenario, she still only wound up tearing through a total of thirteen mooks with nearly perfect play. She can, and should, be able to do better when it comes to dealing with the West Argelia forces when they come for Wessex.
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West Anglia is Mercia, East Anglia is the one ruled by Guthrum.
 
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[X] Plan Charge It!
-[X] Purchase the Warrior Saint's Bell, a Growth Decoration that aids in coordinating allies and subordinates on the field of battle. Granting instinctual knowledge of your actions to up to (Decade) Allies, as well as more general transmission of your will to all allies in earshot. This allows for easy use of coordinated attacks, and raises the bar to suffer from collateral damage considerably. (5 Wealth, will not be available later)
-[X] Purchase the Nail of Martyrs, a Growth Decoration that aids in piercing even the toughest hides, reducing Damage Reduction against your attacks by (Decade x 5), as well as producing (Decade) Zeal per year. Also has an effect on Rebuke and other forms of Denial equal to (Decade/2), stacking with other effects. (3 Wealth, will not be available later)
-[X] Commission a Superior Lance–this is a simple enough project for the artisans in Bornholm, with most of the expense simply in having a material that can regrow when it's inevitably broken. You have a few options with this… (There's plenty of artisans in Bornholm, you'll get another chance before you leave–though certainly not at a discount, so expect a 2 Wealth cost)
--[X] Order it now, with the understanding you'll collect it when you leave (1 Wealth)

Rip Shale, maybe if we make it clear that knights would really like Bornholm Shale we can get traders heading to Wessex?
 
TehChron said:
Yes?

Look at the fight Audrey had before arriving dealing with those raiders. Imagine just morale shocking like half of them in a single strike, before Audrey just tears through the rest of them with total abandon until getting interrupted by that Windhammer dude.

Even in Audrey's ideal combat scenario, she still only wound up tearing through a total of thirteen mooks with nearly perfect play. She can, and should, be able to do better when it comes to dealing with the West Argelia forces when they come for Wessex.
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I mean we could probably do something similar with just using light and horde breaker instead of making it a finale.

Again, im just worry about doing the cost of zeal for what your suggesting and the fact that it might not even be needed to break moral.
 
A normal Rote with a morale break effect combined with a lance charge is indeed valid, the Finale version would be significantly more powerful, though. Obviously.
 
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Nepcalibur said:
I mean we could probably do something similar with just using light and horde breaker instead of making it a finale.

Again, im just worry about doing the cost of zeal for what your suggesting and the fact that it might not even be needed to break moral.
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I mean, naturally this isn't something that'd be spammed. But for situations where Audrey is the one who's the proverbial point of the spear for a setpiece battle, or where she's genuinely expected to take on a couple dozen or more mooks solo this kind of Finale would be beyond invaluable.

A lesser rote version would be good for smaller battles, but for the same reason we want Severing Stroke when GKB won't cut it, we'll want this Finale in the back of Audrey's pocket as well. The conditionals being tacked on alone would give it immense primacy of effect, along with the specificity of what all that power would be invested in.
 
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Wasting a valuable Severance finale slot on a circumstantial finale that's only really useful in massed combat, where we get the drop on enemies, and where mounted because 'cryptic vibes' is a hard pass when it'll fit in far less competitive slots for hordebreaker. Especially since the focus is absolutely on routing an army.

Keep in mind finales are culminations of the philosophy someone takes away from their martial styles- 'kill one terribly and the rest will break' is a really appropriate Hordebreaker lesson. It is a very lame lesson to take away from Severance- the school of learning that a man can cut down the Devil if he's committed enough and willing to face the consequences.
 
TehChron said:
Competing with what in Severance, then

Surely you have some idea you'd like to share with the rest of us?
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Currently we just have Severing Stroke, which is only one. But Severance unlocks a new bit of fuckery every odd level instead of just being numbers go up, we can use those new bits of fuckery for their own weird shit, not just a Hordebreaker Finale that wants to be creepy.
 
DDDDogCat2001 said:
Severing Stroke and another that will use the more esoteric effects of later Severance levels
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I'm not trying to be petulant here, I'm really not.

But I don't see where you guys are getting "Nah it can't be Severance it isnt special enough" from. An attack meant, literally, to use death as a means of inflicting mass terror via supernaturally amplified means is pretty esoteric from where I'm standing.

Especially when you guys don't have any way of defining what you think is better suited. It's illogical.
 
TehChron said:
Competing with what in Severance, then

Surely you have some idea you'd like to share with the rest of us?
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I don't know… Severing Stroke, the actual general offensive Finale we see right there? The one Audrey is incredibly well suited to using considering she has a huge Fortitude stat? The one where it's backlash is generally considered a fairly big restriction but we mitigate?

Edit: Chron, this is a niche finale, you even acknowledge this I'm pretty sure. We currently have no way to use a finale offensively. The cryptid crush is a solid 3rd or 4th pick for finale at best. We slew something like 13 out of 75 Norse. And it's not because we were tapped, or low on resources- it's because they surrendered before the rampage could continue after the Berserk.
 
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Okay question out of left field, but could one use there sin for a final, the main sin im talking about here being wrath?

like making our self really angry or something.
 
We have far more competition for Hordebreaker than for Severance, even factoring in the hypothetical extra Finale down the line?
 
TehChron said:
I'm not trying to be petulant here, I'm really not.

But I don't see where you guys are getting "Nah it can't be Severance it isnt special enough" from. An attack meant, literally, to use death as a means of inflicting mass terror via supernaturally amplified means is pretty esoteric from where I'm standing.

Especially when you guys don't have any way of defining what you think is better suited. It's illogical.
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Not that, just don't want to use a Severance slot for a Finale that can be done elsewhere.
 
Karugus said:
I don't know… Severing Stroke, the actual general offensive Finale we see right there? The one Audrey is incredibly well suited to using considering she has a huge Fortitude stat? The one where it's backlash is generally considered a fairly big restriction but we mitigate?
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TehChron said:
The limit is two before facing penalties.

Severing Stroke + Heart Rending Charge makes two.

Hordebreaking Charge meanwhile already has two examples of synergistic Finales tied into itself.
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That's not a competition. Surely I don't have to explain how one and one make two, right?
 
TehChron said:
Especially when you guys don't have any way of defining what you think is better suited. It's illogical.
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We don't have a way of defining it, as its from the weird Style that spits out weird effects at each breakpoint. It's like me asking you what you're going to do with the thing inside this box i've given you, but you have to tell me before you look in the box, and im going to give you an extra box every now and then, and then getting annoyed when you can't tell me what you're gonna do.
Edit: k, ye, lets kill this convo and wait for severance 3
 
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