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Knight of Wessex (A Written World Quest)

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I will point out, Black Scratch will either get cheaper,, or it will get better as Anti-Armor, you won't get both.

Jaguar2234 said:
Could a severance rote do unhealable damage to fortitude, seems like a good way to deal with aspect healing.
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You won't be able to do permanent damage, you're not Steel, but raising the bar to what it takes to recover quickly? That might be more doable, but probably not cheaply.

From what I get the impression, you'd all like a Severance filler, give me a sec to fluff something up for you.
 
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[X] Plan Bash out basics

[X][BLESSING] Dragonslayer: You have faced the Dragon in your heart and driven it to flight--mere external threats are nothing compared to that. Has a similar effect to Litany of Resolve, but requires no Capacity or Fervour to maintain. Does stack with Litany of Resolve, making you virtually impervious to mental influence, though this still only has limited effect against reasonable suggestions.
 
Alectai said:
From what I get the impression, you'd all like a Severance filler, give me a sec to fluff something up for you.
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My own first thoughts were either something pretty solid in damage, but no extra to armour, or something with terrible damage but that can theoretically do as much damage to armour as Black Scratch with damage bonuses (like, 10 damage, but up to 30 to armour if you have bonuses).
 
Alectai said:
I will point out, Black Scratch will either get cheaper,, or it will get better as Anti-Armor, you won't get both.



You won't be able to do permanent damage, you're not Steel, but raising the bar to what it takes to recover quickly? That might be more doable, but probably not cheaply.

From what I get the impression, you'd all like a Severance filler, give me a sec to fluff something up for you.
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I see, then I'll go with the extreme pain option, seems like a good way to setup GKB cheaply.
 
Jaguar2234 said:
I see, then I'll go with the extreme pain option, seems like a good way to setup GKB cheaply.
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That works, but might need more specificity...are we talking, like, disabling pain in a specific limb, pain as a general debuff of some sort (would be small or wouldn't last long), or pain as a stun effect? It sounds like the latter, but just to be clear.

You could also wait for Alectai's idea, of course.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
That works, but might need more specificity...are we talking, like, disabling pain in a specific limb, pain as a general debuff of some sort (would be small or wouldn't last long), or pain as a stun effect? It sounds like the latter, but just to be clear.

You could also wait for Alectai's idea, of course.
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I was thinking pain as a stun, but yeah I'll wait for Alectai's idea.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
My own first thoughts were either something pretty solid in damage, but no extra to armour, or something with terrible damage but that can theoretically do as much damage to armour as Black Scratch with damage bonuses (like, 10 damage, but up to 30 to armour if you have bonuses).
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How about a Rote that does only modest damage, but if it hits Fortitude for any reason, it does a bleed effect? That seems up Severance's alley.

EDIT: There's also Probing Strike, a cheap attack that gives a bonus on the next attack, but that's Hard-Fall rather than Severance.

A Pain-Stun is also doable, while most people have counterplay to hard CCs like stuns are, it'll still hurt enough to piss them off, making it a solid taunt. That'd be Severance.
 
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[X] Plan Bash out basics

[X][BLESSING] Dragonslayer: You have faced the Dragon in your heart and driven it to flight--mere external threats are nothing compared to that. Has a similar effect to Litany of Resolve, but requires no Capacity or Fervour to maintain. Does stack with Litany of Resolve, making you virtually impervious to mental influence, though this still only has limited effect against reasonable suggestions.
 
Alectai said:
How about a Rote that does only modest damage, but if it hits Fortitude for any reason, it does a bleed effect? That seems up Severance's alley.

EDIT: There's also Probing Strike, a cheap attack that gives a bonus on the next attack, but that's Hard-Fall rather than Severance.

A Pain-Stun is also doable, while most people have counterplay to hard CCs like stuns are, it'll still hurt enough to piss them off, making it a solid taunt. That'd be Severance.
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Yeah, all this sounds right. The bleed effect needing to hit Fortitude means spamming it is usually rare, but it's available.
 
[X][BLESSING] Dragonslayer: You have faced the Dragon in your heart and driven it to flight--mere external threats are nothing compared to that. Has a similar effect to Litany of Resolve, but requires no Capacity or Fervour to maintain. Does stack with Litany of Resolve, making you virtually impervious to mental influence, though this still only has limited effect against reasonable suggestions.
 
[X] Plan Bash out basics

[X][BLESSING] Dragonslayer: You have faced the Dragon in your heart and driven it to flight--mere external threats are nothing compared to that. Has a similar effect to Litany of Resolve, but requires no Capacity or Fervour to maintain. Does stack with Litany of Resolve, making you virtually impervious to mental influence, though this still only has limited effect against reasonable suggestions.
 
[X] Rounding Out but Invisible, Horsemanship 4
[X] Plan Bash out basics

A probing strike cheap filler attack would be nice, but we're also sort of increasingly strapped for capacity slots as well, so trying to reduce Invisibility's cost might be a good idea as well. Running Preservation (5), Vanguard (5), Invisibility (6), and Innocuous (1) is 17 fervour a turn. Alternatively, Preservation might get a big discount at mastered, or given the emphasis on damage Audrey's build has we might try and bank on winning a lot of fights by 4-5 turns.
 
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Anyway, just keep the advice in mind. Black Scratch is good, but unless you want to dilute its focus as an Anti-Armor Rote, you'll want something new for your filler.
 
Actually, is a reach/trajectory-baffling melee Light based Rote a thing we can do, @DeadmanwalkingXI ?

Just make it a single strike with a significantly higher threshold to defend against and nothing else to it?
 
TehChron said:
Actually, is a reach/trajectory-baffling melee Light based Rote a thing we can do, @DeadmanwalkingXI ?

Just make it a single strike with a significantly higher threshold to defend against and nothing else to it?
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There are two ways to do this. The first is as a Meditation, which would be pricey in line with its power, but would indeed impose penalties to people's defenses while you were using it and could be used with any attack. The second is theoretically as a Rote, which would only work on itself not other attacks, and likely not do much that's special beyond the debuff to defenses (ie: it'd be, like, a 30 damage attack that gives enemy defenses a penalty against itself).

The second doesn't seem great to me, and the first is good, but maybe not right now given your Fervour economy.
 
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[X][BLESSING] Mastery of the Blade: You are the Blade, and the Blade is you--extends the benefits of Knightly Armor to your readied weapon, making it capable of resisting (Though not piercing and otherwise damaging) Steel, and renders you nearly immune to being disarmed or your weapon broken.
 
Alectai said:
Some of these are carried over from before, others are new, choose wisely!
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Wasn't there warning about not having the Knight Armour be our strength instead of a supplement?

And the Tabernacle ...Third or Fourth Grade seems sufficient for me, as there is no guarantee we will be able to reach Seventh Decade or try to go higher by that point?
Audrey might want to reach Fifteenth Decade, but...
 
Ratato said:
Wasn't there warning about not having the Knight Armour be our strength instead of a supplement?

And the Tabernacle ...Third or Fourth Grade seems sufficient for me, as there is no guarantee we will be able to reach Seventh Decade or try to go higher by that point?
Audrey might want to reach Fifteenth Decade, but...
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Audrey has Pride, remember, she can't bring herself to be anything less than exceptional. At the very least, we have an advantage in having higher Grace, so as long as we pass a few more tests from God during the upcoming war, it should be manageable to reach Grade 1 within a Decade. Hopefully, have to see what the actual Math looks like.
 
I.F. Ister said:
Note: You are allowed to bring your Companions. There aren't any rules against it, after all.
Also Note: These rules are the only rules.
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I.F. Ister said:
-While you should not aim to kill your opponent, accidental death is acceptable
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I'm not sure we should be using our Companions in this fight, because I suspect these may be more ...acceptable targets to whoever is interested?

[X][BLESSING] Dragonslayer: You have faced the Dragon in your heart and driven it to flight--mere external threats are nothing compared to that. Has a similar effect to Litany of Resolve, but requires no Capacity or Fervour to maintain. Does stack with Litany of Resolve, making you virtually impervious to mental influence, though this still only has limited effect against reasonable suggestions.
 
Ratato said:
Wasn't there warning about not having the Knight Armour be our strength instead of a supplement?
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Yes, but none of these trigger it.

Ratato said:
And the Tabernacle ...Third or Fourth Grade seems sufficient for me, as there is no guarantee we will be able to reach Seventh Decade or try to go higher by that point?
Audrey might want to reach Fifteenth Decade, but...
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Even if you're not gonna go for the highest heights (and Audrey has Pride so she'll try), the better your Tabernacle the quicker your cultivation is. It never stops being flatly better to have a better one...the only reason to not aim for the best possible Tabernacle is that it takes time and energy so you're stuck at 4th Decade longer. Which is a real limitation, certainly, but not one Audrey has to worry about nearly as much as some.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
The second is theoretically as a Rote, which would only work on itself not other attacks, and likely not do much that's special beyond the debuff to defenses (ie: it'd be, like, a 30 damage attack that gives enemy defenses a penalty against itself).
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I do get that it wouldn't be too great, but how would it compare price wise to something like Black Scratch? Would it be able to fulfill that "filler" rote role? Something cheap with broad if limited applicability?
 
TehChron said:
I do get that it wouldn't be too great, but how would it compare price wise to something like Black Scratch? Would it be able to fulfill that "filler" rote role? Something cheap with broad if limited applicability?
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It'd be cheap, yeah. That said, in most fights, a lot of the time you'd need to hit with it two or three times to have the same effect as one hit with Black Scratch, so even with a bonus to hit and being way cheaper, that's hard to justify. For a cheap spammable attack you probably want something with some sort of other effect that makes it worth it. Some reason to actually prefer two or three hits of it to one of Black Scratch.
 
Alectai said:
This is also why it can't be traded around like Zeal in its liquid form can, it'll sublimate the instant it makes contact with the outside world–though it'll last long enough for immediate use if you want to fuel powerful Rotes or other similar tricks.
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Does this mean that our mentor has been using approximately 3x the amount of Zeal we've thought that he has invested in us so far?
 
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