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[X] Plan: Building A Skeleton
-[X] Assistance with rebuilding Warfang's infrastructure (-1 month and reduced cost for associated projects) -1 Point
-[X] Copies of non-family secret knowledge -2 Points
-[X] Assistance with rebuilding agriculture (ranches, fisheries, ect) -1 Point
-[X] Copies of all recovered knowledge. +2 Points
-[X] House Farad gets free reign to experiment with magi-tech. +1 Point
-[X] House Novis gets an advisor on King Spyro's Council +1 Point

These should help with building up what's torn down with minimal long-term consequences. Beside, we could try this again later when we have more power and prestige.
 
I kinda like this plan. keep it simple for now while we build up an independent power base.

[] Plan: Building A Skeleton

Edit: liked throwing the nobles a bone plan even better.

[X] Plan: Throwing the nobility a bone
 
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[X]Plan: More than I thought we'd get.
-[X]Copies of all recovered knowledge. +2
-[X]House Novis gets an advisor on King Spyro's Council. +1
-[X]House Hayle gets official ownership of Dante's Freezer. +2
-[X]House Farad gets free reign to experiment with magi-tech. +1
-[X]Spyro must marry a member of the Nobility. (Argued down to being able to have two mates, but one must be a noble; reputation hit for going against the norm) +3
-[X]Copies of non-family secret knowledge -2
-[X]Fair representation of the lesser houses -3
-[X]Open support of dark element dragons. -4
 
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Lots of discussion in the new discord server. The downside is that discussion is leaving the quest itself kind of empty. ...Don't regret it yet
 
[X] Plan: Building A Skeleton

Best benefits here are that it sets a tone, practicality is what will be surrported. This if kept up could lead to a more useful council that may not like Spyro bit would know how to work along side with out problems.
 
Been thinking of switching getting Copies of all recovered knowledge with Help with Cynder's reputation. We can get the knowledge in later negotiations but Cynder need help looking good soon.
 
We absolutely cannot allow entrenched monopolies or racism unless we want to set up for a civil war. House Novis is fairly free in that they are well disposed to us and are offering an additional advisor, although we should keep in mind that their agenda will not always coincide with ours.

House Farad's deal avoids a monopoly and possibly opens new avenues of research as well as being relatively easy to get the backing to retract if they are stupid with it.

House Hayle is Cyril's house so its not likely to be too horribly abused and quite frankly Dante's Freezer is not an area we have the means to control right now, making it someone else's problem may take some weight off our shoulders.

House Avis's deal is mostly an issue because we haven't talked to Zephyr about it, he may be willing to be adopted into the house and they are well disposed to us, the problem is that they did not ask him yet. maybe we can talk to Zephyr about their offer and get their support that way. Nianque has confirmed that they're willing to help us if we ask him to join them.

Most guardians come from the nobility anyways because they're the ones with the time and resources to study, 3/4ths of the current crop not being noble is apparently very unusual

We need to do open support of dark dragons if we want to avoid the issues that can arise from creating an easily exploited underclass. Cinder currently has a really awful reputation because the Terror of The Skies was hated and feared and even saving the world isn't going to convince many people to actually listen and understand that she didn't do any of the things they hate her for of her own free will.

The lesser houses significantly dilutes the authority of the great houses and most of them like us a lot.

This is as close to the minimum as I think is feasible, giving away nothing we cannot afford to lose and getting everything we absolutely need to get.

[X] Plan: Throwing the nobility a bone
-[X]Copies of all recovered knowledge +2
-[X]A guarantee that when the Guardians rebuild, 1:3 are members of the Nobility. +2
-[X]House Farad gets free reign to experiment with magi-tech. +1
-[X]House Hayle gets official ownership of Dante's Freezer. +2
-[X]House Novis gets an advisor on King Spyro's Council +1
-[X]Ask Zephyr to join House Avis (if that doesn't work they're going to try to marry him in) +1
-[X]Open support of dark element dragons. -4
-[X]Help with Cynder's reputation. -2
-[X]Fair representation of the lesser houses -3
 
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Since we have a lot of people not in the new discord server, I figured I'd share important info that has come up.

Nobody knows the state of Dante's Freezer. It might not even exist or it could bring unimaginable benefits.
House Avis was wiped out to nearly a man; they have about 3 members among the living and will be burning quite a bit of power to try and get Zephyr (a once in several generations prodigy of the Wind element) into their clan by whatever means possible.
House Aquara had high losses defending their fish farms that were keeping everyone fed. Any support towards aquatic agriculture would mean a lot to them.
Cynder is hated. She killed tons of nobles and commoner. She almost single-handedly wiped out House Avis (the majority of scouts and messengers were them).
You can assume Cynder and Zephyr would like Spyro to discuss things that affect them (ie marriage or being adopted or married into a House), before anything regarding their fates is decided.
 
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one thing id like to point out is that entrenched monopolies in a monarchy/feudal government are near impossible to dig out, same for the second class citizens thing which will probably result in riots and civil war
 
[X] Plan: Throwing the nobility a bone

I will throw my weight behind this option; giving the nobles even the slightest chance to cause a succession crisis down the line is a bad idea. Giving up the land before we can even scout it isn't ideal, but it is what it is
 
Nianque said:
Lots of discussion in the new discord server. The downside is that discussion is leaving the quest itself kind of empty. ...Don't regret it yet
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Nianque said:
Since we have a lot of people not in the new discord server, I figured I'd share important info that has come up.
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Yes, it's a known issue that important information being posted on completely unrelated sites and never in the actual Quest Thread is damaging for Quests.
 
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House Avis gets to lay claim to the Wind Prodigy Zephyr (his wishes irrelevant) OR put in a truly earnest effort toward convincing him to marry into or be adopted into House Avis.
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Oh hey, Zephyr! So how valid is it for me to reintroduce the Elemental Guards?

[X] Plan: Throwing the nobility a bone

Also, late to the party, so don't think I can sway people even if I tried.

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Yes, it's a known issue that important information being posted on completely unrelated sites and never in the actual Quest Thread is damaging for Quests.
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Also, it is much more difficult trying to keep track of information on Discord, since unless there's Pinned Comments it's an absolute pain trying to find anything specific.
 
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Yes, it's a known issue that important information being posted on completely unrelated sites and never in the actual Quest Thread is damaging for Quests.
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Still don't regret it (yet). So much discussion last night, it made me really happy.
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Oh hey, Zephyr! So how valid is it for me to reintroduce the Elemental Guards?

[X] Plan: Throwing the nobility a bone

Also, late to the party, so don't think I can sway people even if I tried.



Also, it is much more difficult trying to keep track of information on Discord, since unless there's Pinned Comments it's an absolute pain trying to find anything specific.
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Go ahead and introduce the characters.
I've got a Word of God channel set up that I'll be utilizing.
 
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