[X] Seek out the brother Flare

Zephyr would probably be more willing to listen/agree if someone he personally knows can vouch Spyro isn't just saying random nonsense. Sure, he's Spyro, but surprisingly going "I'm the Ultra-Badass" doesn't give a 100% success rate all by itself.
 
[X] Seek out the brother Flare

Zephyr would probably be more willing to listen/agree if someone he personally knows can vouch Spyro isn't just saying random nonsense. Sure, he's Spyro, but surprisingly going "I'm the Ultra-Badass" doesn't give a 100% success rate all by itself.
Funny enough. Zephyr respects Cynder more than he respects Spyro.
 
[X] Seek out the brother Flare

Okay here me out, have cynder test out the female canidate to see just how good she is.

(yes, take the pain, your torture of being HELPLESS, and let that FUEL YOU. make sure you will NEVER BE CONTAINED AGAIN, and hold that feeling, and dont let it go EVEN IF IT FEELS LIKE THOUSANDS OF FLAMING CHAINS ARE STABING THROUGH YOU PULLING YOU TO THE GROUND! Dont give them the satisfaction, use it as FUEL. YOU ARE NOT A WEAKLING SO DONT ACT LIKE ONE. You want that wind dragons heart you will push harder than you EVER HAVE BEFORE.)
 
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Canon: A Chance Encounter New
[Omake: Chance Encounter Turned Discussion]

Spyro flapped his wings alongside Zephyr and Cynder, he had been meaning to look for the wind dragon, but almost as soon as the thought had passed he had noticed him flying, and Cynder had been wanting to do something mildly less stressful than recently, so he figured that flying and talking with the wind scion would work, she agreed, though did tell him she wouldn't be doing any fancy tricks, getting a chuckle and smiling agreement in response.

Zephyr had definitely not expected it that was for sure, if the slightly wide eyes at the sight of the two of them joining him was anything to go by, as for the more excited gaze he directed towards Cynder, to be expected from what he knew so far, plus Cynder was Cynder, and she wasn't concerned here so he didn't need to be.

"Hello there Zephyr, I was wondering if you'd be alright with us joining you for a flight? I have a few things I'd like to talk about with you, and Cynder has been needing some way to destress, and flying is always good for that."

The wind dragon just grinned in response before giving a nod. "Sure! It's nice flying with you again Cynder and I've heard great things about you as well. What did you want to talk about?" Cynder looked a bit put off there but recovered quickly and simply began to do some light glides and flaps to work her wings well.

Spyro hummed and looked over to Zephyr. "It's about House Avis, they're looking for you to join them. I'm not here to pressure you or anything, but to simply talk, personal request from the remains of the house itself."

Zephyr narrowed his eyes at first but that lessened as the purple dragon spoke further, before sighing and giving a motion to go ahead with one of his front claws. "Go ahead, I'm not promising anything, but I'll at least hear you out."

The purple smiled. "Wonderful, to be honest with you I planned to look for your brother first, but spotted you flying and figured I'd at least come up to talk, Cynder was nearby and came along. For starters, I'm sure the house had already told you about how much they'd be able to aid you in your training and such, and while I will say that having proper tutors helps tremendously, personal experience there, I also understand you're a dragon who doesn't like to be restrained and forced to stay in one place, am I correct?"

Zephyr huffed, the breath only serving to make his wings flap harder. "That sounds right. You must know that I have already given them my answer, so what makes you think you can change my mind?"

"Simple, to give my own perspective on it, Cynder might even give a little input at some point, but don't count on it, she's mainly here to relax. But back to the point, house Avis isn't looking to restrain you, make you more inclined to assist and aid them, sure. But they aren't looking to force you to follow a set schedule or impede how you usually do what you do. They're looking for a more symbiotic relationship with you. Honestly, I have a variety of ways I could argue why that'd be good for you, your brother and your friend, but simply put, I would liken it to how me and Cynder get along to be honest with you. We work with each other, overcome obstacles in our path and continue on, we learn from each other, teaching the other better ways to handle certain situations. We fight together, watching each other's back and making sure that the other stays safe, it's not one helping the other out exclusively, it's both of us working together to make sure that the other is always at their best, even when it feels like the whole world is trying to get in the way." The purple took a breath there, taking a quick break in his talking, but before he could continue, another voice spoke up, coming from the upside down dragoness flying above them.

"Much as I'd love to bust in here and talk about not letting others chain you down, trust me, it sucks, a lot, but Spyro's not really wrong there. We do all of that and more for each other, and from what little he told me on the way up, House Avis seems to honestly want just that with you. Simply put they're desperate, they are rushing to try and get you into the clan, and not because they're a wind clan and you're the monstrosity for wind that you are. They are savaged, there are 3 members of the House left, and they got that way by doing just what you were doing, being messengers for Warfang and its allies during the war. They put everything they had into it, and they lost so much. I'm not trying to gain pity for them, I'm responsible for most of it, or at least, that me under Malefor's shackle was, but I can tell you this. They are probably the only noble house in this entire city that will upfront tell you everything you are signing up for, they will lay out every single detail and every single note for you to look at. And then, they will work with you and change it, even if it hurts them at the moment. That's how desperate they are for you to accept. That's not people looking to enslave you, that's people looking to work with you, to help you, no strings attached, as crazy as it sounds."

Before she got back to relaxing, she gave him a quick grin. "Oh, and Zephyr, much as I don't like what happened back then, you managing to actually get away is a good memory, it was a fun chase too." She flapped her wings and got back to diving and climbing, continuing to simply work her wings.

Spyro gave a smile as the wind dragon beamed at the end there, it was nice to see after the contemplative listening he'd been doing while he and Cyn talked, though the wind dragon did go to just a small grin as he looked over to Spyro, thinking for a moment before speaking. "While that puts a new spin on things, there is one thing I already knew. House Avis. My mentor, a lot of friends, a lot of them didn't make it. I know they're good, that they suffered, and I can see why they want me so bad. You know I value my freedom above most everything else, and while what you said sounds promising, how far are they willing to go for me though? You compared it to you and Cynder, but how far does it really go"?

Spyro paused for a moment there, getting his meaning with a light grimace, before looking over to Cynder, who had heard while resetting for another dive, before she gave a nod and a smile and got back to it. Spyro watched with, sighing before looking back over to Zephyr.

"Alright, but it's a good bit, so please don't interrupt till I'm done. When it comes to the lengths I've gone to for her, and her for me, there's so much. We've chased, ran, saved, fought, killed and nearly died for each other. We've given up food so the other could eat more soundly, we've faked watches so the other could sleep more, there's so much that it's really impossible to cover it all. But I'll simply put it this way, I have chased Cynder across the world to make sure she's okay, and she stayed with me when I put the planet back together. I nearly died who knows how many times, and Cynder very well could have died if I made a single mistake, but neither of us did, and neither of us asked for the other to do what we did."

Spyro did smile however, giving a light chuckle as he looked at the wind dragon. "I don't regret any of it, and I know she doesn't either, both of us would do it again in an instant if the other was in danger, and we'd do it happily. That's what the House Avis wants with you. A relationship built on trust where the both of you are willing to give it your all for the other. In your case, that'd mean becoming the best wind elemental dragon to ever live, or at least put in the effort. For them, it's training you, giving you every single ounce of effort they can to assist you on that journey. And for both sides, that means protecting the other when it's in danger."

Spyro finished, looking over to the wind dragon, who was staring at him. After a moment he broke it before taking a few minutes to think, the 3 of them just flying in peace as he did so before he spoke up. "It sounds like the two of you are willing to die for each other. House Avis claims that they want to put such trust in me, offering everything. And the price is that I just do everything I'm already doing, but help them out a little?"

Spyro smiled and nodded, looking over at Cynder before back to Zephyr and giving him a happy grin. "That's what they're willing to do Zephyr, so the question now is, do you accept? I'm not pushing you to answer now, but at least think about it. You know where to find both me and them if you want to discuss it further."
 
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I'll give a +10 to the roll in question. This will stack with Spyro's diplomacy bonus, as well as any other bonuses accumulated before the roll is made. And eh... we can make it canon too.
 
Rereading I noticed something;
Continued Training (LOCKED): Spyro had a very combat oriented education and thus is lacking in what many would consider the basics. To further that the dragonflies had very different priorities in education than the dragons. In addition to this Cynder suffers from a similar problem and thus will be tutored alongside Spyro. Does not use an action.
Chance of Success: 30/50/70/90/100%. Time: 12 months. Reward: Holes in Spyro's and Cynder's education patched. Chance of stat gain. Chance of traits.
Why wasn't this action done?
 
Wonderful, to be honest with you I planned to look for your brother first, but spotted you flying and figured I'd at least come up to talk, Cynder was nearby and came along.

I'm not sure how this works? Seeking out Flare first is by far the most likely to win, so wouldn't this be immediately invalidated & therefore non-canonical? I could get if this was before the House Avis thing, but again meeting with Zephyr first isn't likely to happen.
 
Canon: Beneath the Earth New
Omake: Beneath the Earth

The scrawling of ink upon paper echoed across the dark chamber, the user of the pen etching a map of the environment he had explored thus far in these depths. The ruins of Warfang stretched into an abyss around him, hiding unseen amounts of the former city.. it was only appropriate that this dragon was adept in the darkness. Dusk of House Calas had taken upon himself to survey the underground while the rebuilding of Warfang ensued above. As a Shadow Dragon he was still ostracized by many of the dragons above just for his element, leaving the darkness as the best place for him while many debated on what course the future would take. Putting his tools away and shifting his armor Dusk stood up, well aware that he had merely begun his task. A full exploration of this place would take months and many more individuals assisting with the task to make more then a dent in the vast ruins. For now Dusk was content to spread his wings and fly off to a lower platform, his black scales blending well into the background even without fully stepping into the shadow. This endeavor was far easier than his duties in the years before, the great war that raged across the land and nearly broke everything. Dusk lended his aid whenever he was able even despite the scorn he faced for what his mere existence implied. Sabotage and reconnaissance were his trade, always in demand to slow the apes great war machine.. even as the cost they drew grew ever greater. Dusk's own cost of the war was a family he never knew.. records lost in favor of survival as the war dragged on. Cynder arrival and turning the tide forced Dusk to reduce his actions.. lest he drew the ire of the Terror of the Skies. Knowing now of Cynder came to be he couldn't draw much hatred towards the dragon.. she was a victim of Malefor herself..

His flight was brief as he landed in silence, listening for any movement nearby. The outcropping was parts of a former building, its purpose unknown to Dusk with a doorway leading further inside.A few brief moments passed before Dusk heard a chattering that drew a silent curse and he withdrew into shadow. The source of the noise revealed itself to be a pack of skeletal apes passing through the door.. the only remaining traces of the species that had long hunted the dragons.. Their undead state was the "reward" for serving the Dark Master unfaithfully, now forever cursed to roam in the dark corners of the world even after their masters death. They haunted the underground here and it was yet another group that Dusk had encountered in these depths. Even in undead shadowy shapes the apes had not learned the benefits of stealth and silence.. leaving them prey to the experienced scout. They did not last long against Dusks rampage, claws unleashed and slashing through the skulls of the first that passed by his hiding spot. The rest fell before his tail slashing through the remaining bones the undead creatures possessed.. the remnants fading into nothing in the aftermath of the ambush. Hearing nothing else Dusk moved into where the apes had come from, revealing a room that was relatively intact. His eyes were drawn to a centerpiece hung along the back wall, something that drew a snarl from the black dragon.

Above Dusk hung a tapestry of an age long past that was worn from the passage of time. A purple dragon overseeing a gathering of all the races gazing up at upon it in awe. A relic from the time Malefor was thought to be the ages hero. In the present time that turned out to quite the irony, and yet now another purple dragon sat upon the throne of Warfang. Spyro was still young, a hero in his own right with reconstructing the world... but with wars end still brought the older dangers of politics. The Shadow Dragon paused in front of this image, pondering just what could have caused such a shift in circumstances.

"They worshipped you didn't they? Taught you everything you wished, and you created even more for others to utilize. A hero of your time in your own right. Could of had everything.. yet you decided to burn the world. What brought you to that? Forsaking everything to become the Dark Master.. destroyer of your own kind. Didn't work out in the end did it? Now we have to recover from everything you unleashed." Dusk muttered to himself, anger seething underneath his exterior before he took action against the offending imagery.

It was a simple matter to pry the tapestry from its wall mounting, it easily giving way between its age and the dragons strength. With a last sternful glare at Malefors image before he drew breath Dusk unleashed his element. Flames cloaked in pitch black torched the image, purging the picture from existence and returning it to the abyss. Unlike the proper flames of the Fire Element these gave off no light, letting a piece of history fade away into nothing. Dusk doubted that anyone would even begrudge him for this small indulgence, if anyone even learned of it at all. This left the room to himself, and has Dusk calmed he found it to his liking.. he would need to draw bedding down to make it comfortable. Yet he felt this area suited him just fine, quiet away from the bustle and far enough away from the crowds that glaring eyes would not fall upon him. It was still relatively close to the entrance he had used to gain delve into the ruins of Warfang so he would not be far from society. His thoughts drifted to the events above, and the new purple dragon that would dominate the age..

"I hope you'll be better then the last Spyro.. Maybe you'll even find it in you to help us.. "
 
So just to be sure, are the nine elements of Fire, Ice, Electricity, Earth, Water, Wind, Poison, Shadow and Fear the only elements that dragons can align to, or will more show up in the future? e.g. Skylander elements of Light, Life, Undead, Tech, etc.
 
Turn 1: The Lair of the Street-Rats New
The obvious first place to start was with Zephyr's brother. House Avis had information on him as well, but it was not as detailed. Spyro figured it was a mix of not monitoring Flare as closely and Flare had not served alongside House Avis' members like Zephyr had. Whatever the reason, Spyro knew where the two brothers were staying.

The map he had been given was… not what he expected though. It was not leading him toward the new shelters that Terrador was erecting, nor toward the hastily constructed guard post. Instead it was to the outskirts of the city and if he had not been given directions, he would have missed it. A hole hidden out of the way in the underneath of the broken aqueducts. At first he thought the directions were wrong, as the hold led to a dead-end of rock. Then he looked at the stone of the aqueduct to his side and realized something; the clever dragons had concealed their lair behind a rolling stone door. He had no idea how the brothers or presumably Nefaris had managed it, but the rounded stone fit so smoothly into the wall he would have missed it entirely. With a heave and judicious cheating of his earth element, he rolled the door open.

"We got company Flare! 'Ole king Spyro himself!" A voice called out as a black and white dragon materialized out of the floor in front of him.


"...Nice place you got here, I almost missed it." Spyro remarked as Nefaris ushered him inside and closed the door.

"Once street-rats, always street-rats eh?" The shadow dragon chuckled. "It needed some fixing up, but it held pretty well all things considered." He led Spyro further, the ground sloping downward until they arrived at an empty doorway. The crimson and cream scales of Flare were immediately obvious as was the near identical resemblance to Zephyr.


"How did you find us?" The fire dragon started off, markedly on guard.

Spyro chose his words carefully, "I made a deal with House Avis."

Flare groaned. "Oh great… Of course those bastards know where we hole up at." He sighed and turned around, gesturing with his tail for Spyro to follow. The room on the other side was far more spacious than anything Spyro had expected, less a room and more comparable in size to a two-story building. A massive ceiling and enough room for a dragon to fly comfortably. "Come in I guess, at least they chose not to come themselves."

"You don't like the House?" Spyro asked, wondering whether this was going to be far harder than he had thought. "How did you make this anyways? None of you are earth dragons."

Nefaris grinned as he sprawled out on some cushions. "We have connections… It's amazing what a life on the streets will do for you."

Flare grimaced as he sat on his own cushions. "Not pleasant at all and I wish you would stop reminding me Nef. To answer your other question though, no we don't mind House Avis, at least not usually. They did well by Zephyr during the war, but they have dropped an annoying amount of hints and I'm not sure how much longer they are willing to wait for an answer. Please, sit and make yourself comfortable, I can tell this will be one of those conversations."

Spyro took the hint and ignored the third set of well-used cushions for a fourth, much more unused set. He doubted that taking the ones that were obviously Zephyr's would help endear him to his hosts. "I had a council with the nobility earlier today and in exchange for some much needed assistance, I promised House Avis that I would at least make an earnest request of Zephyr to join their House."

Nefaris' eyes narrowed. "What did you get out of the bastards?"

Hard feelings from the orphans, somehow Spyro was not surprised. "Open support of the 'dark' element dragons, better representation of the lesser houses, and help with Cynder's reputation." Spyro listed off. "The price was… more than I wanted to pay. I talked House Avis down from outright demanding Zephyr join then."

Nefaris outright laughed. "Hah! Like that would have gone over well!" Even Flare, a much more stoic dragon cracked a smile. "Not bad though."

Flare narrowed his eyes at Spyro. "No help with reconstruction?"

"No, the price for even more was just far more than I was willing to pay. " Spyro stated. "Let's get back to your brother though."

"Figures." Flare muttered. "Zephyr… I'm sure House Avis told you all about him, didn't they?" Without even waiting for a reply, Flare kept talking. "He's always been more connected to his element than typical. Curious, easy going, loves flying… flighty. Were it not for the two of us, I can guarantee Zephyr would just fly off one day and that might be the end of him. I don't want that for my brother."

Nefaris spoke up next, the light-hearted prankster's tone more serious than before. "Joining the war helped him. It gave him a job to do what he was going to do anyways and I think that's the key. In the war he and I flew as scouts and messengers, it kept him satisfied and there was always something new each flight. He was happy with that."

"We can keep him satisfied with all the new scouting that has to be done and he won't up and leave without telling us at the very least." Flare continued once more. "He needs to make more connections though."

Spyro shifted as he gave that some thought. "House Avis would give him that."

"They would." Flare agreed. "We can probably even negotiate a pretty good deal regarding how much freedom Zephyr has. The problem is that Zephyr is just going to see that as just chains tying him down."

"So we phrase it as a home base. A place to rest his wings between adventures." Spyro replied.

Nefaris shrugged, turning it into a yawn. "It might work." He agreed, not bothering to hide the fact that he was tired. "What else do ya got?"

The king paused, that was not the response he had expected. "They've also offered the marriage of a drake named Gale."

Flare smirked. "She better be some dragoness if she wants Zephyr's attention. Still, as a member of House Avis she would be a skilled flier, but Zephyr saw plenty of skilled fliers during the war. The only one that truly impressed him was your mate"

"Cynder isn't my mate! I uh-... Nevermind." Spyro said with a blush. "I haven't met with her yet, but they definitely talked her up. Said that they were throwing considerable resources behind training her up."

The fire dragon nodded. "Considering they're down to so few people, they would have to be doing that. …Look, we'll give our blessings and have a word with Zephyr. Come back here when you're ready to convince him and we'll get him for you. Until then, I suggest you go have a talk with this Gale and see if she's skilled enough to impress my brother."

"She better be a damn good flier and not too terrible with her element too." Nefaris put in. "If she's on the same level as Cynder on those things, bring her as well. Otherwise, don't bother."

With a groan, Spyro stood up. "Alright then."

What does Spyro do now?
[] Go to the Avis Estate and seek out Gale.
[] Talk with Zephyr (Flare and Nefaris will back you up on convincing him)
 
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[X] Go to the Avis Estate and seek out Gale.

Much as I'd like to keep her as an option for Spyro in the noble marriage thing, we did say we'd give it our all, and not at least going to talk to her and get her vibe would be against that.
 
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