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Get Jinxed: A Tale of Mental Instability and Poor Decisions (Arcane/League of Legends)

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[X] Plan: Undermining Silco
-[X] Grenades: Lots and Lots of Grenades
-[X] Shimmer Research
-[X] Hextech Hydroponics
-[X] Ventilation System Improvements
-[X] Undermine Silco's Monopoly: The Kiramman Way
-[X] Seraphine's Zaun Concerts

[X] Plan: Jinx Kiramman Philanthropist Extraordinaire (Dakka version)
 
[X] Plan Meaningful Changes to Life in Jinx's Home : Grenades
[X] Plan Meaningful Changes to Life in Jinx's Home : Pow-Pow
[X] Plan: Jinx Kiramman Philanthropist Extraordinaire (Boom version)
[X] Plan: Jinx Kiramman Philanthropist Extraordinaire (Dakka version)
 
Randino Treviani said:
The primary purpose in going to Damacia is feeling out the Jinx/Lux relationship, which can guaranteed happen in regular Arcs.
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I really don't see how this is guaranteed? Before the Lux arcs happened here I didn't think we'd see much of anyone outside the show. Lux dropped us a pretty clear line on how to advance our relationship with her, so I think not taking it here is kinda sending the message that we aren't interested. I don't see her popping by for no reason if we aren't reaching out here.
 
@Chengar Qordath Quick question about Fishbones. Would it still be called that in this continuity given the implication that Jinx designed it that way due to Silco's love of the shark-like marine predators that lurked under the Pilt? Or is that just my headcanon and the real reason is something else?
 
[X] Plan Meaningful Changes to Life in Jinx's Home : Grenades
-[X] Grenades: Lots and Lots of Grenades
-[X] Magic Flow Regulator
-[X] Hextech Hydroponics
-[X] Shimmer Research
-[X] Undermine Silco's Monopoly: The Kiramman Way
-[X] Mage Law Reform
 
The Jovian said:
@Chengar Qordath Quick question about Fishbones. Would it still be called that in this continuity given the implication that Jinx designed it that way due to Silco's love of the shark-like marine predators that lurked under the Pilt? Or is that just my headcanon and the real reason is something else?
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I don't think anything was firmly established for why Jinx gave it that name, so I don't see much reason to change it.
 
Darkcore41 said:
Could the regulator work for Hex tech corruption? or atleast to prevent it?
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Not precisely, but Jinx already having develop regulatory technology related to suppressing bursts of magic, would mean she has the fundamental understanding of what's involved to make the necessary modifications in an emergency, like the discovery of wild runes.
Skyfyre said:
I really don't see how this is guaranteed? Before the Lux arcs happened here I didn't think we'd see much of anyone outside the show. Lux dropped us a pretty clear line on how to advance our relationship with her, so I think not taking it here is kinda sending the message that we aren't interested. I don't see her popping by for no reason if we aren't reaching out here.
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Lux and Jinx will maintain correspondence even if we don't take it, they simply won't advance there relationship. Given Arks are the primary vector for relationship improvement, it would be strange for Chengar to not follow through on the plot thread of Lux's potential attraction to jinx.
 
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Fanhunter696 said:
Honestly, if we manage to pass the Mage Law Reform, there seems to be little reason for pulling all-nighters to create the Magic Regulator. I mean it would be extremely useful for several of our friends who are mages (and for Mel once she unlocks her powers), but if they are allowed to live in Piltover-Zaun without fear of being exiled or imprisioned, it becomes a "nice to have" thing, not an "absolutely essential my-life-depends-on-it" thing.

I can see plenty of scenarios where we need to put All Nigters in Weapons Development projects though, either because of Silco or because of Ambessa...

Although @Chengar Qordath, just to be clear, if we pick -[] Mage Law Reform, we are guaranteed that the law would pass without much of a problem, we don't need to pick the Magic Flow Regulator thingy to keep the council relatively happy, no? It would still be good enough for them and mages would be allowed to live in Priltover without getting exiled or imprisoned, no?...

Ok fair enough...

Well then, I will go for the Philanthropist Extraordinaire version with yours as approval vote, I still think that (despite its obvious synergy) if we pick the Mage Reform, then the Magic Regulator becomes much less essential, so cleaning Zaun's Air significantly rises in priority for me...
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The mage regulator is necessary. It's something to help mages who can't control their power, not every magic is going to be safe for either or both for the mage themselves and the people around them. Seraphine could have been driven insane, since she couldn't control her powers when jinx met her, only could partially block the input thru concentrating on something. Even now it's still affecting her, wouldn't it be nice if she didn't have to worry about headaches and what could happen if she gets too overwhelmed by a crowd. Think about a kid born who could set stuff on fire, but it's triggered at random until they train their magic. That's why the Regulator is necessary.
 
Randino Treviani said:
Given Arks are the primary vector for relationship improvement, it would be strange for Chengar to not follow through on the plot thread of Lux's potential attraction to jinx.
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They may be the primary vector, but they're based on the votes we make. If we don't vote to visit, it signals we aren't interested in pursuing a relationship with Lux.
 
Skyfyre said:
They may be the primary vector, but they're based on the votes we make. If we don't vote to visit, it signals we aren't interested in pursuing a relationship with Lux.
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You say that like sending a magic regulator when Lux was the one who brought up the idea to Jinx couldn't be taken as a sign of interest.

Nor that a mage might just have interest in someone that started pushing for mage reform laws.
 
Considering we dont have Ekko as a choice i don't think the time skip vote will knock people off the ship. This of course is assuming Ekko is even an option.
 
Storyteller said:
You say that like sending a magic regulator when Lux was the one who brought up the idea to Jinx couldn't be taken as a sign of interest.

Nor that a mage might just have interest in someone that started pushing for mage reform laws.
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I say that like if we're pushing for those things, then it would be synergistic to also go and meet her
 
Storyteller said:
You say that like sending a magic regulator when Lux was the one who brought up the idea to Jinx couldn't be taken as a sign of interest.

Nor that a mage might just have interest in someone that started pushing for mage reform laws.
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By this logic Jinx helping the needy would also help gqin her interests. Considering Lux is a big proponent of charity. I just don't think any of the options will get Jinx closer nless we go ver there.

is there anything aside from the ship as a reason to go to darmecia? also if we go we better design non hextech weapons if there is some kind of fighting Arc.
 
Skyfyre said:
They may be the primary vector, but they're based on the votes we make. If we don't vote to visit, it signals we aren't interested in pursuing a relationship with Lux.
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No, it doesn't.
Chengar Qordath said:
Not doing High Silvermere won't lock Lux out, but it would mean they just stay on friendly terms over the timeskip, they'd still be exchanging letters and keeping in touch.
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As the QM elaborates here.

Lux romance is not locked out if we don't take this. Things can still develop in a Lux × Jinx Romance favorable direction post time skip without visiting Silvermere.
 
Randino Treviani said:
As the QM elaborates here.

Lux romance is not locked out of we don't take this. Things can still develop in a Lux × Jinx Romance favorable direction post time skip without visiting Silvermere.
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Okay, I hadn't seen that post. Though as the rest of the post says, screen time is good for developing these things. If we are looking to pursue it, this would give us a mini-arc to do so.

And while we could do so later, I don't really think it's not going to be at no cost in a future arc - after this timeskip we're going to Episode 4 of Arcane, and things get pretty crazy pretty fast at that point.
 
Darkcore41 said:
is there anything aside from the ship as a reason to go to darmecia? also if we go we better design non hextech weapons if there is some kind of fighting Arc.
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The benefits outside of romance is it promotes our social capital, to the Piltover folk it show cases we can properly foster diplomatic relations. It also gives us opportunities to further harm Silco's profits by going directly to the source. Also it's fun to hang out with a friend. (Not all relationships need be romantic) Also exiting Zaun gave us the ability to see new perspectives on things, doing the same with leaving the cities can also have its benefits that way.
 
Skyfyre said:
Okay, I hadn't seen that post. Though as the rest of the post says, screen time is good for developing these things. If we are looking to pursue it, this would give us a mini-arc to do so.

And while we could do so later, I don't really think it's not going to be at no cost in a future arc - after this timeskip we're going to Episode 4 of Arcane, and things get pretty crazy pretty fast at that point.
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In canon, where kid Ekko had to raise up the firelights on his own, Jinx and Serika were helping Silco, there was no water plant, hydroponics, or deliberate efforts to undermine Silco's control.

We can get plenty of screen time when the issue of mage law reform leads to further Political posturing between Damacia and Piltover, drawing the two back into each other's orbits. You want to prioritize a romance? Very well, but don't paint it as particularly unlikely to happen in the event Jinx doesn't go to Silvermere.

This is our last time skip. The things we don't take will not be available again. This is why I've crafted a plan with as much in favor of balancing Silco Undermining and Mage Law reform as possible. We won't likely have another chance at these, we will likely have options to flesh out our relationship with Lux.
 
Skyfyre said:
Okay, I hadn't seen that post. Though as the rest of the post says, screen time is good for developing these things. If we are looking to pursue it, this would give us a mini-arc to do so.

And while we could do so later, I don't really think it's not going to be at no cost in a future arc - after this timeskip we're going to Episode 4 of Arcane, and things get pretty crazy pretty fast at that point.
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This isn't exactly no cost either. There are going to be consequences based on what we haven't picked. My main focus is of course Silco and the undercity. Spliting his power as much as possible before Ambessa rolls up and attempts to stir chaos.

The other direction is the mage priority just in case something happens with Seraphine. If we do things early enough perhaps other mages come and maybe this helps with Hextech and its corruption. Last part of course being speculation.

Randino Treviani said:
This is our last time skip. The things we don't take will not be available again. This is why I've crafted a plan with as much in favor of balancing Silco Undermining and Mage Law reform as possible. We won't likely have another chance at these, we will likely have options to flesh out our relationship with Lux.
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Wasn't it said that we can push for mage reform easier when Mel manifests? Doesn't that mean it can come up as an option later?
 
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Randino Treviani said:
Very well, but don't paint it as particularly unlikely to happen in the event Jinx doesn't go to Silvermere.
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I said that it wouldn't come without cost. Considering canon and all, don't really want Lux to get threatened by Tank/Vi having to lose one or the other (or some other consequence there - I really don't think we just get to pursue romance with her 'for free' if we don't take the timeskip option, just like we'd lose out on other things like undermining Silco or helping the Undercity if we don't do them now either).
 
ComiTurtle said:
The benefits outside of romance is it promotes our social capital, to the Piltover folk it show cases we can properly foster diplomatic relations. It also gives us opportunities to further harm Silco's profits by going directly to the source. Also it's fun to hang out with a friend. (Not all relationships need be romantic) Also exiting Zaun gave us the ability to see new perspectives on things, doing the same with leaving the cities can also have its benefits that way.
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We already demonstrated this with Lux as is, and taking The Kiramman Way accomplishes this further, as Jinx is certain to be involved do to the favorable impression of her by Lux's parents.

Can't argue with the perspective point, will argue that a new perspective by visiting Silvermere isn't really an equivalent trade to leaning concentrating on Mages and Silco just to Pursue romance a bit sooner.
Darkcore41 said:
Wasn't it said that we can push for mage reform easier when Mel manifests? Doesn't that mean it can come up as an option later?
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It can, it will just be one with less gradual buildup, less time for careful favor trading and proper, drawn out defining of what kind of rights it would be easiest to push for and establishing public support. One of the Councilors likes to look reasonable and can be won over with charts and such. Easier to make those with a long time to prep.

A regulator makes it easier to get a certain breadth and level of rights for mages. A lack of prior mage Law effort leaves Jinx more ill prepared to make the push for it. Also, it takes emergencies for Jinx to do something like start a regulator during an ark. If Mel becoming a mage prompts a sudden push for mage rights, it may be because she's exposed, and then that's one vote we don't have in our corner possibly because she isn't being allowed to vote.
Skyfyre said:
I said that it wouldn't come without cost. Considering canon and all, don't really want Lux to get threatened by Tank/Vi having to lose one or the other (or some other consequence there - I really don't think we just get to pursue romance with her 'for free' if we don't take the timeskip option, just like we'd lose out on other things like undermining Silco or helping the Undercity if we don't do them now either).
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The time skip option isn't for free either. That's not how this quest works. It's a trade off. Take the silvermere trip and pass on something else that is far more unlikely to happen without something going horribly wrong to prompt Jinx to start undertaking it in an ark, or pass on Silvermere for something else because Arks are where our Relationships are most easily advanced.
 
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[X] Plan Freedom & Grain from Piltover to Silvermere
-[X] Pow-Pow
-[X] Magic Flow Regulator
-[X] A Visit To High Silvermere
-[X] Undermine Silco's Monopoly: The Kiramman Way
-[X] Mage Law Reform
-[X] Seraphine's Zaun Concerts

Everything here synergizes really well together with three central goals.

1 - Helping to make magic safe and legal in Piltover and beyond with the regulator, the law reform, and the Demacia trip to advertise an alternative to the current harsh suppression methods.

2 - Undermining Silco's grain position by building connections at all levels of the supply chain with the Demacia trip, Kiramman politicking, and getting some more on the ground Zaun contacts as a side benefit of organizing Seraphine's concerts.

3 - Chipping away at the Zaun Piltover divide through cheap grain sales and supporting Seraphine's concerts.

Trips to the Demacian countryside and organizing concerts whilst having fun with two of our friends also just sounds nice to balance out the strain of intensive lab research, trade negotiations, and politicking.
 
Why is their so many saying this is the last time skip? Did the qm say that, did I skip past that? If the qm didn't say anything about that, than people need to stop saying that like a fact. The quest can go beyond where the show ended, which could still get another season.
 
AlreadyFallen said:
Why is their so many saying this is the last time skip? Did the qm say that, did I skip past that? If the qm didn't say anything about that, than people need to stop saying that like a fact. The quest can go beyond where the show ended, which could still get another season.
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The QM did say that they didn't have a third time skipped planned at this time, and foreshadowed the second time skip during the vote on the first one.
Chengar Qordath said:
I'm not planning a third big timeskip at this time.
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Thus, we should vote with the expectation that this is likely the last shot at many of these options.
 
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