- Location
- Arizona, United States
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Absolutely still ongoing, I've got no plans to freeze it any time soon!
After the Ashes: A Fire Nation Chancellor Quest
- Thread starter Granite
- Start date
- Fantasy
- Pronouns
- Fae/Faer
[X] a subdued and almost strangely normal woman; a part of him was surprised that the guards managed to pick her out at all, though he supposed that the Ministry of Domestic Harmony was well incentivized to keep tabs on individuals such as her. After all, she was a Sanctioned Broker, a more polite term for a spy, and one of the few people that the Fire Nation retained to handle under-the-table talks with the Earth Kingdom, a fraught endeavor given the hostility that exists between the two powers. Still, given the Fire Lord's evident intentions of making peace with the Earth Kingdom, it might prove advantageous to have someone familiar with them to arrange it… and her lack of allies in court would make it relatively easy to see her removed when the time came. [Likeable, Subtle, Sanctioned Broker, Earth Kingdom Contacts, Late 30s]
[X] natural stewardship, a more politically acceptable term for environmentalism within the context of the Fire Nation. While complaints about pollution have traditionally been dismissed as merely a lack of resolve and endurance, recent movements around natural stewardship have seen success in making arguments for the preservation and restoration of natural environments specifically rooted in the romantic principle of maintaining the beauty of the homeland. This typically plays well with traditionalists and rural populations, though faces the potential for major pushback from the industrial interests of the Fire Nation.
[X] Kaminari Morishita…"
[X] natural stewardship, a more politically acceptable term for environmentalism within the context of the Fire Nation. While complaints about pollution have traditionally been dismissed as merely a lack of resolve and endurance, recent movements around natural stewardship have seen success in making arguments for the preservation and restoration of natural environments specifically rooted in the romantic principle of maintaining the beauty of the homeland. This typically plays well with traditionalists and rural populations, though faces the potential for major pushback from the industrial interests of the Fire Nation.
[X] Kaminari Morishita…"
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
- Location
- Canada
In regards to the resources coming from the colonies to the Home Islands, how much of that is food in order to keep everybody fed?
Because from the depictions of the Fire Islands, there isn't a ton of arable land and even with commercial agriculture powered by an industrial revolution probably wasn't enough to deal with rapidly growing populations.
Also are there any elements of canon etc that are getting reinterpreted due to the issue of 'look at it too closely, things start breaking down' for the purposes of this quest.
- Pronouns
- He
Whoever comes out on top.
[X] a beautiful young woman, clad in the disconcertingly foreign garb so favored by the socialites and debutantes of the Colonies, though such was not a surprise given the fact that she stood foremost among them. While holding no official title, she was a sufficiently Popular Debutante to have attracted attention even within the home isles, an unusual feat for one so disadvantaged by the nature of their lineage. That alone was not sufficient to warrant her for this position, however; the fact that she'd carried modernist politics to the colonies was far more relevant to their reasons for meeting here tonight. The salons, reading groups, and rallies that she'd played a role in were… numerous, to say the least, and extended to those within the Fire Nation proper, where she was apparently seen as a prime exemplar of their goals. [Eloquent, Passionate, Popular Debutante, Modernist Inclination, Mid 30s]
[X] natural stewardship, a more politically acceptable term for environmentalism within the context of the Fire Nation. While complaints about pollution have traditionally been dismissed as merely a lack of resolve and endurance, recent movements around natural stewardship have seen success in making arguments for the preservation and restoration of natural environments specifically rooted in the romantic principle of maintaining the beauty of the homeland. This typically plays well with traditionalists and rural populations, though faces the potential for major pushback from the industrial interests of the Fire Nation.
- Location
- Arizona, United States
- Pronouns
- She/Her
It would go to Azula next, though it's likely that even Ozai's court would attempt to constrain her with a regency and get her to chill out a tad. Ozai is likely out of the picture as most of his supporters are bending supremacists. While a more distant member of the family could, in theory, attempt to assert a claim, the Fire Nation has a pretty strong tradition of keeping succession within the immediate family since the Camellia-Peony War.
The colonies and southern fishing operations have done a lot to drive down the cost of food domestically. It's noted in the stats, but people in the Fire Nation enjoy an incredibly cheap and varied selection of foods; even some things that might have once been luxuries are within reach of the common citizen these days. The home isles are pretty efficient but the wholesale loss of the colonies would cause a pretty big issues as a not insubstantial amount of that is currently devoted to cash crops rather than bulk agriculture.
I imagine that you're asking with regards to the Air Bender genocide?
I'm fleshing it out a little bit, hopefully in a way that you'll find more satisfying, though I'm maintaining the core idea that it was largely kicked off in a single strike to hit the temples themselves. Even then, it's quite likely that a good number of people escaped - Air Nomads priotized mobility after all - but Sozin, and later Azulon, both placed a priority on stomping out those remnants as best they could. The Earth Kingdom was less than welcoming to the refugees, the liberated manners of the nomads clashing with the extremely conservative feudal system of the Earth Kingdom. Beyond that, the Fire Lords maintained pretty hefty bounties for Air Benders, ones that even Earth Kingdom citizens were allowed to claim if they were able to provide proof in the colonies.
We also know that Sozin spent years hunting down any remaining remnants, even going so far as to create fake communities to lure them in. So, while Air Bender populations might have survived for upwards of fifty years after the initial attack on the temples, remaining populations faced some pretty extreme attrition and were likely either wiped out, died off on their own, or forced to integrate into more settled communities.
As for the attack itself, this video presents some theories that I found sufficiently satisfying for my purposes.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mliZ1hezOYE
- Location
- Reno
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] a beautiful young woman, clad in the disconcertingly foreign garb so favored by the socialites and debutantes of the Colonies, though such was not a surprise given the fact that she stood foremost among them. While holding no official title, she was a sufficiently Popular Debutante to have attracted attention even within the home isles, an unusual feat for one so disadvantaged by the nature of their lineage. That alone was not sufficient to warrant her for this position, however; the fact that she'd carried modernist politics to the colonies was far more relevant to their reasons for meeting here tonight. The salons, reading groups, and rallies that she'd played a role in were… numerous, to say the least, and extended to those within the Fire Nation proper, where she was apparently seen as a prime exemplar of their goals. [Eloquent, Passionate, Popular Debutante, Modernist Inclination, Mid 30s]
[x] public benefit reform, where she'd advocated for the further modernization of Sozin's Prosperity Programs, a wide-ranging package of welfare programs that sought to provide for the health and well-being of the Fire Nation and its people. In recent years, these programs have failed to keep up with modern issues, most notably the labor laws and the national apothecaries. The first is not well fit for the modern needs and risks of the workplace, while the second has failed to integrate modern medicine into treatments. This is a broadly popular position, though one that has the potential to be both expensive and step on toes.
[x] public benefit reform, where she'd advocated for the further modernization of Sozin's Prosperity Programs, a wide-ranging package of welfare programs that sought to provide for the health and well-being of the Fire Nation and its people. In recent years, these programs have failed to keep up with modern issues, most notably the labor laws and the national apothecaries. The first is not well fit for the modern needs and risks of the workplace, while the second has failed to integrate modern medicine into treatments. This is a broadly popular position, though one that has the potential to be both expensive and step on toes.
- Location
- The Endless Abyss of Middle America
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Under the Legal Tab it mentions 'The Pheonix Kingdom?'
Is that referring to the weird legal limbo that came from Ozai being 'Phoenix King', Azula being Fire Lord, and both those individuals being simultaneously removed from power a day after the positions were announced?
Is that referring to the weird legal limbo that came from Ozai being 'Phoenix King', Azula being Fire Lord, and both those individuals being simultaneously removed from power a day after the positions were announced?
- Location
- The internet
I'd imagine that Bumi would have offered shelter in Omashu once he became king, but we don't know when he inherited his crown.
- Location
- USA
How did the Sun warriors stayed hidden from the rest of the world in this quest canon?
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
- Location
- Canada
Thanks, I'd seen that but wasn't sure how much was dependent on the colonies. As a result I wasn't sure just how much would be lost if even some of the colonies had to be shut down.
Another purveyor of 'Hello Future Me''s video I see. He's got some good ones.
Still here's hoping our character manages some diplomatic finagling so that we aren't taken to the cleaners sorting this mess out.
- Location
- USA
We can probably keep the southern fishing operations around because let's be honest I doubt the seas around the southern air temple islands are being used by anyone else.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
- Location
- Canada
And we still have most of the collective fleets since the Avatar only destroyed the northern one.
We're still going to have to try and hold onto as many of the colonies as we can (particularly the older ones/ones that were in uninhabited areas).
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- Location
- USA
I feel like the older ones are the only ones worth keeping long term.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
- Location
- Canada
Well the occupied lands we definitely have to pull back from (active Insurrection etc).
The issues in the New Territories seem to be more Ozai's fault:
We can potentially get things under control by recalling the a**holes currently running the places and trying something similar to the policies that Azulon used.
Yep, I think if we want to keep some of those newer colonies while not being a complete asshole, we're gonna have to invest in them hard, both political capital and normal capital wise. Both to have the local population actually support sticking with us in some respect, and for us to be able to make the case to people like Aang that forcing the people to go back to Earth Kingdom would strain his morals.
- Location
- USA
Well we can suggest it to Zuko but he'll probably just order every one of fire nation descendants out.
- Location
- Arizona, United States
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Yuuuuuup. It's a relatively minor issue but there's still a bunch of 'Phoenix Kingdom' banners around and the bureaucrats were in the process of changing departmental names and the like; fortunately, it's nothing too difficult to swap back, but it's causing some mild bureaucratic confusion
Sozin began to deemphasize history around the time they went into isolation; silence on their part, combined with official suppression of pre-Sozin cultural history made it relatively easy for them to fade into memory given everything going on with the war at the time.
- Location
- Your pantry
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I mean really it's just a matter of getting away with as much as we can, while making sure the Fire Nation doesn't spontaneously combust under the power of friendship, lol. I think once we get to meet with Zuko, we can get a better of our position, and negotiating power.
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jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
- Location
- Canada
That's more or less the premise of the Promise comic series. Zuko changed his tune when he actually got to see the colonies themselves and realized what he didn't know.
And since our character is A: from the colonies, B: well connected, and C: well versed in diplomacy (AKA making people do what you want while making them think it was their idea) should be able to point him in the right direction.
Zuko isn't stupid or uncaring about the Fire Nation. He just doesn't want to become his father, and tends to be rather blunt/somewhat rash about things.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Once again the Promise is not fully canon to this Quest, and for good reason.
BoSPaladin
The Paladin
Is there the chance for any just outright land purchases? Or to attach strings to reparations? "Okay, we'll pay X much reparations to the earth kingdom, only if we get to keep X/Y as marked by so and so map.
Also. The fire nation has earthbenders in it who've been... fairly successfully raised as fire nation citizens. Are there any waterbenders who are in a similiar position?
Lastly, creating a less dangerous form of practice for bending such as pro-bending tournaments should be possible, right?
>He wasted little time in ordering her freed, his attention switching between vigorously reprimanding the guards for their impudence and apologizing to the woman who would hopefully help manage the Fire Lord and the pubescent killing machine the boy called a sister.
He idly made a note that he should check if she was still chained to that grate, though that would have to wait until after the meeting.
Cackling. Quin's POV is so funny.
He idly made a note that he should check if she was still chained to that grate, though that would have to wait until after the meeting.
Cackling. Quin's POV is so funny.