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The Dragon Roars: A KMT Quest

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Fireiy said:
Personally I don't think preconditioning our aid on the integration of the autonomist GMD into the KMT is a good idea. If they wish to join us on their own then that is another matter, but forcing them in feels like it'd exacerbate the existing problems we have in the KMT already.
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On the other hand, them not joining would exacerbate the existing problems we have with the parliament :/
 
[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Revolutionary Group
 
[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Mainline
Is there any other answer?

Also, have some propaganda posters I quickly made. Disclaimer: I'm not good at making images and I don't know Chinese.
 
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[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Mainline

This is a KMT Quest. That means we stay on that party grindset and integrate allies into the party. The opposition fears the power of an expanded KMT. :cool:
 
[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] No Conditions.
[X] KMT - Revolutionary Group
 
[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Mainline
 
[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Mainline
 
With the current momentum the vote, it is very likely that we will lose our majority next turn. We must consider who our future coalition partners will be with the CCP being the most likely.
 
ReluctntCrusader said:
With the current momentum the vote, it is very likely that we will lose our majority next turn. We must consider who our future coalition partners will be with the CCP being the most likely.
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Its either the CCP or whatever party comes out of the unintegrated GMD.

We could also try to possibly integrate the GMD in the future anyway to get back that majority
 
[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Revolutionary Group
 
If we do not integrate the GMD and the south joins us as a province, we will lose our majority in parliament cause whatever successor of the GMD will very likely capture more votes than us.

The NRA would react very badly to us losing our majority cause it is already skeptical of the multi party system we have set up(confirmed by nacht on discord)

Seeing as the NRA are already dissatisfied and have the position of vice president and rumours of a coup already existing, I believe it is quite likely that not integrating the GMD will cause very big problems for the KMT, with a good chance that the backlash would hurt the other parties even more than some disagreement in vote.


As a result I think that we need to integrate the GMD if we plan on integrating the South. If we do not think material aid is enough for that we will need to send troops even if it stretches us instead and is less popular with the NRA.

[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Mainline
 
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[x] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Revolutionary Group
 
[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Revolutionary Group
 
[x] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT
[X] KMT - Mainline

Yeah I don't see outright giving up legislative majority as a winning strat here.
 
Not a fan of overstretching the military, particularly when our plan was dependent on drawing down forces at calm borders (ex. the one we had had with France that is no longer so peaceful) and we have a certain ambitious guy's goons in Sichuan where we'd have to hollow our forces out ones so we can have them fighting further south.

Like I get that as far as France is concerned they're themselves stretched so one-on-one we could probably easily take their glorified police force while they're busy anyway with the existing dissent and commitments way out in Europe and the Americas. I absolutely believe that part of the text.

But what could happen if say France (which has preexisting and recently friendlier turning communications with former Taiping officials) offers support and promises for those disaffected elements to launch a revolt from behind our lines? We'd have a lot of juicy supplies moving thru the Sichuan basin and only token forces to guard them and keep up the reconstruction effort while we support a raging front south of the mountains. If timed correctly an uprising could overwhelm the local forces in the basin, secure the traitors a mountain-ringed redoubt, and chop off the supply lifeline to the southern forces leaving them to wither while sandwiched between rebels and invaders. We could stand to lose much of what we gained in the West China War, never mind add something new. We are also well aware with how unfortunately this sort of hypothetical act by the French lines up with the known blind spots in our intelligence so we could be caught completely off guard.

Just wanting to caution that waging war with only an eye for how to maintain our majority can lead us blind to greater risks. If new territory brings us more political forces to incorporate then as far as I'm concerned learning how to handle coalition building/navigating a coup amidst our government squabbling in a bigger China is better than how far south things can go if our militarily overstretched state is capitalized on in the sending soldiers option.
 
[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Independents

edit: don't forget that Independents need votes!
 
[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Independents
 
[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Revolutionary Group
 
"Of course we are going to help you! Buuut..."

[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Mainline
 
[X] [GMD] Provide Material Aid to the GMD Uprising.
[X] [TERM] Integrate the GMD as a southern branch of the KMT.
[X] KMT - Mainline

Three Principles maxxxing
 
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