You're the Queen - Now What? [CK2ish Character-Focused Quest]

firespier · Feb 4, 2024

[X] Plan: Public Suitors and Roads

Kylia Quilor · Feb 5, 2024

Scheduled vote count started by Kylia Quilor on Jan 29, 2024 at 5:26 PM, finished with 12 posts and 9 votes.

7 people have voted
[X] Plan: Public Suitors and Roads
-[X][TAX ASSESSMENTS] Eaglecrest 3% Wealth Tax
-[X][TAX ASSESSMENTS] Port Lest 4% Wealth Tax
-[X][CORRESPONDENCE] Continue the Ebon Dragon Investigation
--[X]Look into the Necrotic Artifact Market to see if you can trace their profits (Base Chance 44% + 1/2 Diplomacy + Intrigue)*
-[X][ROYAL VAULTS] Mint the <15 Dureks> Worth of Gold and Silver into new Coins and Put them Into Circulation (Base Chance 70% + Stewardship) (Progress towards resolving Currency Contraction, Advances Royal Propaganda)
-[X][HIGH MARSHALL] Inspect the Levies (Determine Levy Readiness for Action) (Base Chance 35% + Martial + Diplomacy)*
-[X][SECRETS] Rebuild Internal Spy Network (Phase 2 of ?) (No roll required. Each phase opens more [SECRETS] options down the line and improves chances of success of internal spy operations, as well as giving increased chance for intelligence to be 'passively' received)
-[X][SHERIFFS AND REEVES]Start Rebuilding the Roads in the Grand Duchy (Base Chance 56% + Stewardship)* (Costs 20 Dureks) [Process will take Multiple Turns]
-[X][JUSTICE] Investigate claims of ex-rebels taking revenge on pardoned former Syrokis loyalists and exact justice as required. (Base Chance 58% + Intrigue + 1/2 Learning)*
-[X][ENVOYS] Draw up detailed proposals for what Halrun can/should ask for from each possible marriage Candidate for the Queen's consideration (No Roll Required)
-[X][QUEEN] Meet and Greet with Arriving Suitors: Lothar Aldogun & Essinya Serriados (LOCKED, MUST TAKE)
--[X] Greet them as Suitors publicly
-[X][QUEEN] Begin looking for a suitable, secluded place inside the Palace to create a proper Sanctum (Sanctums are places of power for mages where their magics are most potent, they are hardest to kill, and where they can keep their greatest of secrets) (Base Chance: 50% + Stewardship OR Intrigue, whichever is Higher)
-[X][BANDITRY GENERAL] Send General Trins (Rolls will use his Martial and Trait)
-[X][BANDITRY PLAN] Disperse to Cover Major Trade Caravans (Get Merchants to travel in caravan convoys, and disperse to guard them directly) (Medium Casualties at Most) (Base Chance: 57% + Martial)*
-[X][BANDITRY TARGET] The Trade Towns
- Mortenkam
- Travler66
- Eternal_0bserver
- araa
- MrRageQuit
- firespier
- Belkar
2 people have voted
[X] Plan: Public Suitors and Roads Necromancer edition
-[X][TAX ASSESSMENTS] Eaglecrest 3% Wealth Tax
-[X][TAX ASSESSMENTS] Port Lest 4% Wealth Tax
-[X][CORRESPONDENCE] Continue the Ebon Dragon Investigation
--[X]Look into the Necrotic Artifact Market to see if you can trace their profits (Base Chance 44% + 1/2 Diplomacy + Intrigue)*
-[X][ROYAL VAULTS] Mint the <15 Dureks> Worth of Gold and Silver into new Coins and Put them Into Circulation (Base Chance 70% + Stewardship) (Progress towards resolving Currency Contraction, Advances Royal Propaganda)
-[X][HIGH MARSHALL] Liaise with the Knights of the Golden Throne (No Roll, Improves future coordination with the Knights if they need to be called up)
-[X][SECRETS] Rebuild Internal Spy Network (Phase 2 of ?) (No roll required. Each phase opens more [SECRETS] options down the line and improves chances of success of internal spy operations, as well as giving increased chance for intelligence to be 'passively' received)
-[X][SHERIFFS AND REEVES]Start Rebuilding the Roads in the Grand Duchy (Base Chance 56% + Stewardship)* (Costs 20 Dureks) [Process will take Multiple Turns]
-[X][JUSTICE] Investigate claims of ex-rebels taking revenge on pardoned former Syrokis loyalists and exact justice as required. (Base Chance 58% + Intrigue + 1/2 Learning)*
-[X][ENVOYS] Draw up detailed proposals for what Halrun can/should ask for from each possible marriage Candidate for the Queen's consideration (No Roll Required)
-[X][QUEEN] Meet and Greet with Arriving Suitors: Lothar Aldogun & Essinya Serriados (LOCKED, MUST TAKE)
--[X] Greet them as Suitors publicly
-[X][QUEEN] Begin looking for a suitable, secluded place inside the Palace to create a proper Sanctum (Sanctums are places of power for mages where their magics are most potent, they are hardest to kill, and where they can keep their greatest of secrets) (Base Chance: 50% + Stewardship OR Intrigue, whichever is Higher)
-[X][BANDITRY GENERAL] Send General Trins (Rolls will use his Martial and Trait)
-[X][BANDITRY PLAN] Disperse to Cover Major Trade Caravans (Get Merchants to travel in caravan convoys, and disperse to guard them directly) (Medium Casualties at Most) (Base Chance: 57% + Martial)*
-[X][BANDITRY TARGET] The Trade Towns
- Belkar
- giodan
1 people have voted
[X][QUEEN] Meet and Greet with Arriving Suitors: Lothar Aldogun & Essinya Serriados (LOCKED, MUST TAKE)
- Kylia Quilor

Kylia Quilor · Feb 5, 2024

What?!

Kylia Quilor · Feb 5, 2024

Scheduled vote count started by Kylia Quilor on Jan 29, 2024 at 5:26 PM, finished with 12 posts and 9 votes.

7 people have voted
[X] Plan: Public Suitors and Roads
-[X][TAX ASSESSMENTS] Eaglecrest 3% Wealth Tax
-[X][TAX ASSESSMENTS] Port Lest 4% Wealth Tax
-[X][CORRESPONDENCE] Continue the Ebon Dragon Investigation
--[X]Look into the Necrotic Artifact Market to see if you can trace their profits (Base Chance 44% + 1/2 Diplomacy + Intrigue)*
-[X][ROYAL VAULTS] Mint the <15 Dureks> Worth of Gold and Silver into new Coins and Put them Into Circulation (Base Chance 70% + Stewardship) (Progress towards resolving Currency Contraction, Advances Royal Propaganda)
-[X][HIGH MARSHALL] Inspect the Levies (Determine Levy Readiness for Action) (Base Chance 35% + Martial + Diplomacy)*
-[X][SECRETS] Rebuild Internal Spy Network (Phase 2 of ?) (No roll required. Each phase opens more [SECRETS] options down the line and improves chances of success of internal spy operations, as well as giving increased chance for intelligence to be 'passively' received)
-[X][SHERIFFS AND REEVES]Start Rebuilding the Roads in the Grand Duchy (Base Chance 56% + Stewardship)* (Costs 20 Dureks) [Process will take Multiple Turns]
-[X][JUSTICE] Investigate claims of ex-rebels taking revenge on pardoned former Syrokis loyalists and exact justice as required. (Base Chance 58% + Intrigue + 1/2 Learning)*
-[X][ENVOYS] Draw up detailed proposals for what Halrun can/should ask for from each possible marriage Candidate for the Queen's consideration (No Roll Required)
-[X][QUEEN] Meet and Greet with Arriving Suitors: Lothar Aldogun & Essinya Serriados (LOCKED, MUST TAKE)
--[X] Greet them as Suitors publicly
-[X][QUEEN] Begin looking for a suitable, secluded place inside the Palace to create a proper Sanctum (Sanctums are places of power for mages where their magics are most potent, they are hardest to kill, and where they can keep their greatest of secrets) (Base Chance: 50% + Stewardship OR Intrigue, whichever is Higher)
-[X][BANDITRY GENERAL] Send General Trins (Rolls will use his Martial and Trait)
-[X][BANDITRY PLAN] Disperse to Cover Major Trade Caravans (Get Merchants to travel in caravan convoys, and disperse to guard them directly) (Medium Casualties at Most) (Base Chance: 57% + Martial)*
-[X][BANDITRY TARGET] The Trade Towns
- Mortenkam
- Travler66
- Eternal_0bserver
- araa
- MrRageQuit
- firespier
- Belkar
2 people have voted
[X] Plan: Public Suitors and Roads Necromancer edition
-[X][TAX ASSESSMENTS] Eaglecrest 3% Wealth Tax
-[X][TAX ASSESSMENTS] Port Lest 4% Wealth Tax
-[X][CORRESPONDENCE] Continue the Ebon Dragon Investigation
--[X]Look into the Necrotic Artifact Market to see if you can trace their profits (Base Chance 44% + 1/2 Diplomacy + Intrigue)*
-[X][ROYAL VAULTS] Mint the <15 Dureks> Worth of Gold and Silver into new Coins and Put them Into Circulation (Base Chance 70% + Stewardship) (Progress towards resolving Currency Contraction, Advances Royal Propaganda)
-[X][HIGH MARSHALL] Liaise with the Knights of the Golden Throne (No Roll, Improves future coordination with the Knights if they need to be called up)
-[X][SECRETS] Rebuild Internal Spy Network (Phase 2 of ?) (No roll required. Each phase opens more [SECRETS] options down the line and improves chances of success of internal spy operations, as well as giving increased chance for intelligence to be 'passively' received)
-[X][SHERIFFS AND REEVES]Start Rebuilding the Roads in the Grand Duchy (Base Chance 56% + Stewardship)* (Costs 20 Dureks) [Process will take Multiple Turns]
-[X][JUSTICE] Investigate claims of ex-rebels taking revenge on pardoned former Syrokis loyalists and exact justice as required. (Base Chance 58% + Intrigue + 1/2 Learning)*
-[X][ENVOYS] Draw up detailed proposals for what Halrun can/should ask for from each possible marriage Candidate for the Queen's consideration (No Roll Required)
-[X][QUEEN] Meet and Greet with Arriving Suitors: Lothar Aldogun & Essinya Serriados (LOCKED, MUST TAKE)
--[X] Greet them as Suitors publicly
-[X][QUEEN] Begin looking for a suitable, secluded place inside the Palace to create a proper Sanctum (Sanctums are places of power for mages where their magics are most potent, they are hardest to kill, and where they can keep their greatest of secrets) (Base Chance: 50% + Stewardship OR Intrigue, whichever is Higher)
-[X][BANDITRY GENERAL] Send General Trins (Rolls will use his Martial and Trait)
-[X][BANDITRY PLAN] Disperse to Cover Major Trade Caravans (Get Merchants to travel in caravan convoys, and disperse to guard them directly) (Medium Casualties at Most) (Base Chance: 57% + Martial)*
-[X][BANDITRY TARGET] The Trade Towns
- Belkar
- giodan
1 people have voted
[X][QUEEN] Meet and Greet with Arriving Suitors: Lothar Aldogun & Essinya Serriados (LOCKED, MUST TAKE)
- Kylia Quilor

Kylia Quilor · Feb 5, 2024

There we go

Kylia Quilor · Feb 5, 2024

Starting Treasury: 20 Dureks
Pre-Income Costs: 20 Dureks

20 Dureks Into Rebuilding the Roads in the Grand Duchy

Pre-Income Gains: N/A
Income: 247 Dureks

Crown Holdings: 129 Dureks
Free Cities Taxes: 39 Dureks
Counties Taxes & Dues: 40 Dureks
Lordships & Towns Taxes and Dues: 39 Dureks

Expenses: 122 Dureks

Royal Administration: 44 Dureks
Wages & Supply of Royal Army: 68 Dureks
Basic Maintinence of the Crown & Palace: 10 Dureks

Final Income: 125 Dureks
Final Treasury: 125 Dureks

Outstanding Debts:
Previous Debts Owed By Syrokis: 366 Dureks (12% Monthly Interest) (44 Dureks)
Owed to the Axecavern Bank (Lortan Dwarves): 199.75 Dureks (10% Interest) (20 Dureks)
Owed to the Redhammer Bank (Lortan Dwarves): 102.75 Dureks (11% Interest) (11.25 Dureks)
Owed to Assorted Individual Wealthy Merchants/Etc based in Eaglecrest, Port Lest and Westcrown: 94.5 Dureks (8% Interest) (7.5 Dureks)
Owed to Assorted Individual Weathy Merchants Based in Zedarsh or Selissa: 136.75 Dureks (11% Interest) (15 Dureks)

Total Interest To Be Added If No Debts Are Paid Down This Turn: 97.75

Example Plans

[ ]Plan: Finish Redhammer Bank (102.75 Dureks)
-[ ]Pay 102.75 Dureks to Redhammer Bank

[ ]Plan: Cover the Interest and A Bit (120 Dureks)
-[ ]Pay 50 Dureks to Previous Debts Owed By Syrokis
-[ ]Pay 25 Dureks to Axecavern Bank
-[ ]Pay 15 Dureks to Redhammer Bank
-[ ]Pay 10 Dureks to Assorted Wealthy Merchants in Eaglecrest/Etc
-[ ]Pay 20 Dureks to Wealthy Merchants in Zedarsh & Selissa

[ ]Plan: Domestic Debts First
-[ ]Pay 94.5 Dureks to Assorted Wealthy Merchants in Eaglecrest/Etc
-[ ]Pay 25 Dureks to Redhammer Bank

Profilozof · Feb 5, 2024

[X]Plan: Cover the Interest and A Bit (120 Dureks)

Rockeye · Feb 5, 2024

Since we started getting hints that the banks aren't happy for us to pay down one at a time, yeah. No more need for extensive shenanigans, just pay it all down. We're down from 118.5 to 97.75, roughly a 6th of all interest eliminated. Actual debts owed have gone from 1005, to 899.75. While we've only actually lowered debts by about 10% so far, we've reduced interest payments by roughly 17%, which I'd say is a success of the 'highest interest first' plan.

At this point, it's less needed and other considerations can override an extra 2 or 3 dureks per cycle by continuing to do only the highest first.

[X]Plan: Cover the Interest and A Bit (120 Dureks)

Blademaster · Feb 5, 2024

Rockeye said:
Since we started getting hints that the banks aren't happy for us to pay down one at a time, yeah. No more need for extensive shenanigans, just pay it all down.

[X]Plan: Cover the Interest and A Bit (120 Dureks)

I am not a fan of this plan tbh. It doesn't really improve our situation much since our debts will be almost the same. It also doesn't take into account that interest rates vary. I agree with nor focusing it all on one bank, but there is a range between that and dividing between all. This looks like a better direction:

[X]Plan making up for Syrokis' shit(120 Dureks
-[X]pay 70 Dureks to previous debts owned by Syrokis
-[X]pay 40 Dureks to Assorted Individual Weathy Merchants Based in Zedarsh or Selissa
[X]pay 10 Dureks to Assorted Individual Wealthy Merchants/Etc based in Eaglecrest, Port Lest and Westcrown

Eternal_0bserver · Feb 5, 2024

[X] Plan: Highest interest rates first (110 Dureks).
-[X] Pay 110 Dureks to Precious Debts Owed By Syrokis.

We already know that we will not get any noticeable benefits by dividing the money between several loans, and until they personally appeal to the Queen to return the money, I am not going to change anything. If it was something important, we would have been told about it. If Rucdorn, one of the best stewards in the kingdom, says everything is fine, I trust him.

As for the amount, I foresee that with the presence of foreign delegations, we may have unexpected expenses, so it is better to leave a little.

Rockeye · Feb 5, 2024

Eternal_0bserver said:
If Rucdorn, one of the best stewards in the kingdom, says everything is fine, I trust him.

......Yeah point.
[X] Plan: Highest interest rates first (110 Dureks).

This'll bring us to 256+interest(~30.75?)=288ish left on Syrokis debts. I think the remaining debts will grow interest payments by 5.75, while this will reduce them by 13.25 to 84.5 interest/turn, meaning 7.5 reduction in interest.

~~While the equal payment plan ends up at... 84.75 interest/turn, slightly more interest despite spending more money.~~

Wait that 84.75 is wrong. And the rest of my math might be too.

Rockeye · Feb 5, 2024

OKAY SO.

I did a table. I made an excel spreadsheet that does all this stuff for ya, just plug in numbers.

IDK how Kylia is calculating things but this might be easier.

Result:

	Plan: Cover the Interest and A Bit
	Initial debts	Repayment	Remaining	rate	interest rounded	Remmaining debt after interest	Next turn's interest
Syrokis	366	50	316	0.12	38	354	42.5
Axecavern	199.75	25	174.75	0.1	17.5	192.25	19.25
Redhammer	102.75	15	87.75	0.11	9.75	97.5	10.75
Eaglecrest etc	94.5	10	84.5	0.08	6.75	91.25	7.25
Zedarsh etc	136.75	20	116.75	0.11	12.75	129.5	14.25

	899.75			TOTAL	84.75	864.5	94

	Plan: Highest interest rates first (110 Dureks).
	Initial debts	Repayment	Remaining	rate	interest rounded	Remmaining debt after interest	Next turn's interest
Syrokis	366	110	256	0.12	30.75	286.75	34.5
Axecavern	199.75	0	199.75	0.1	20	219.75	22
Redhammer	102.75	0	102.75	0.11	11.25	114	12.5
Eaglecrest etc	94.5	0	94.5	0.08	7.5	102	8.25
Zedarsh etc	136.75	0	136.75	0.11	15	151.75	16.75

	899.75			TOTAL	84.5	874.25	94

	Plan: Highest interest rates first (120 Dureks).
	Initial debts	Repayment	Remaining	rate	interest rounded	Remmaining debt after interest	Next turn's interest
Syrokis	366	120	246	0.12	29.5	275.5	33
Axecavern	199.75	0	199.75	0.1	20	219.75	22
Redhammer	102.75	0	102.75	0.11	11.25	114	12.5
Eaglecrest etc	94.5	0	94.5	0.08	7.5	102	8.25
Zedarsh etc	136.75	0	136.75	0.11	15	151.75	16.75

	899.75			TOTAL	83.25	863	92.5

	Plan making up for Syrokis' shit
	Initial debts	Repayment	Remaining	rate	interest rounded	Remmaining debt after interest	Next turn's interest
Syrokis	366	70	296	0.12	35.5	331.5	39.75
Axecavern	199.75	0	199.75	0.1	20	219.75	22
Redhammer	102.75	0	102.75	0.11	11.25	114	12.5
Eaglecrest etc	94.5	40	54.5	0.08	4.25	58.75	4.75
Zedarsh etc	136.75	10	126.75	0.11	14	140.75	15.5

	899.75			TOTAL	85	864.75	94.5

	Plan domestic debts first
	Initial debts	Repayment	Remaining	rate	interest rounded	Remmaining debt after interest	Next turn's interest
Syrokis	366	0	366	0.12	44	410	49.25
Axecavern	199.75	0	199.75	0.1	20	219.75	22
Redhammer	102.75	25	77.75	0.11	8.5	86.25	9.5
Eaglecrest etc	94.5	94.5	0	0.08	0	0	0
Zedarsh etc	136.75	0	136.75	0.11	15	151.75	16.75

	899.75			TOTAL	87.5	867.75	97.5

MrRageQuit · Feb 5, 2024

Shouldn't we be keeping money saved over for the next set of roads?

Kylia Quilor · Feb 5, 2024

MrRageQuit said:
Shouldn't we be keeping money saved over for the next set of roads?

You could, but it is gonna take several turns just to get the Grand Duchy's Roads sorted. So you could do other things instead with Shires and Reeves in the meantime.

MrRageQuit · Feb 5, 2024

Kylia Quilor said:
You could, but it is gonna take several turns just to get the Grand Duchy's Roads sorted. So you could do other things instead with Shires and Reeves in the meantime.

But, we could start working on another set of roads. Or do you mean that we can only do one set at a time?

Kylia Quilor · Feb 5, 2024

MrRageQuit said:
But, we could start working on another set of roads. Or do you mean that we can only do one set at a time?

Like I said, you could. But you don't have to feel like you do.

You could start on another set, if you wanted, yes.

MrRageQuit · Feb 5, 2024

Kylia Quilor said:
You could start on another set, if you wanted, yes.

Well, I for one, would definitely do so. Also, people are using 'Precious' in place of 'Previous.' Unless Syrokis is cast by Andy Serkis.

[X] Plan: Road Reserves
-[X] Pay 85 Dureks to to Previous Debts Owed By Syrokis

Novi · Feb 5, 2024