Son of Death (30k Mortarion Quest)

[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
 
[X] Peace
- [X] They are capable of throwing every single of those 50 billions into the grinder of war. Unsustainable attack vector if they are capable of quick war footing. But through peace we can destroy them. And quickly. We made them expand, we made them splatter their attention so wide, they would miss the gun if it was under their nose. And we can have time to prepare conditions for 50 billions to live as a free man.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
 
Like, in this very update Horus made the 100% correct point that one of the things that made Morty so unique was the way he saw the sword and the plow as not necessarily tackling different issues. So why shouldn't a war for liberation be combined with an attempt simultaniously to try to fix the drug problem, rather than just leaving it for later?

Because if we wait, it could lead to billions of additional deaths (and yeah, the War of Liberation is going to kill vast numbers of people, let's not delude ourselves) when all we need to do is just tell the scientists and others that they have a new priority.
 
[x] War
- [x] Of Destruction. The Order offends you on a personal, moral level, and so it must be destroyed, torn out by the root so that no trace of it remains
 
Maybe, though while I'm not going to say, "this feels out of character" or whatnot (that's the QM's decision), it does feel a little un-rooted in Morty's experiences?
Fair enough! I imagine the way Mortarion would frame it would be like, allowing them to live if they fuck off and submit themselves to Terra and the War Council and that's the deal, with like Rikard Zhar then quietly pointing out to his Primarch the natural impetus of them being pulled in to feed into the maw of the all the exponentially expanding imperial institutions ever hungry for more human capital, after Mort neutralizes them as tyrants in Galaspar and they fuck off.
 
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[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
- [X] Have scientists immediately, before the ultimatum is even given, researching what can be done to help the people, whether there's a way to slowly wean them from the drugs or find a replacement. Just as with the soil of your home, there must be a solution even if it is not perfect
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
- [X] Have scientists immediately, before the ultimatum is even given, researching what can be done to help the people, whether there's a way to slowly wean them from the drugs or find a replacement. Just as with the soil of your home, there must be a solution even if it is not perfect
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
- [X] Have scientists immediately, before the ultimatum is even given, researching what can be done to help the people, whether there's a way to slowly wean them from the drugs or find a replacement. Just as with the soil of your home, there must be a solution even if it is not perfect.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
- [X] Have scientists immediately, before the ultimatum is even given, researching what can be done to help the people, whether there's a way to slowly wean them from the drugs or find a replacement. Just as with the soil of your home, there must be a solution even if it is not perfect.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
- [X] Have scientists immediately, before the ultimatum is even given, researching what can be done to help the people, whether there's a way to slowly wean them from the drugs or find a replacement. Just as with the soil of your home, there must be a solution even if it is not perfect.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
- [X] Have scientists immediately, before the ultimatum is even given, researching what can be done to help the people, whether there's a way to slowly wean them from the drugs or find a replacement. Just as with the soil of your home, there must be a solution even if it is not perfect
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
- [X] Have scientists immediately, before the ultimatum is even given, researching what can be done to help the people, whether there's a way to slowly wean them from the drugs or find a replacement. Just as with the soil of your home, there must be a solution even if it is not perfect.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Destruction. The Order offends you on a personal, moral level, and so it must be destroyed, torn out by the root so that no trace of it

The only choices acceptable to me are cutting out the tumor no matter the cost, or weakening it until it's easy to cut out.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
- [X] Have scientists immediately, before the ultimatum is even given, researching what can be done to help the people, whether there's a way to slowly wean them from the drugs or find a replacement. Just as with the soil of your home, there must be a solution even if it is not perfect.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
- [X] Have scientists immediately, before the ultimatum is even given, researching what can be done to help the people, whether there's a way to slowly wean them from the drugs or find a replacement. Just as with the soil of your home, there must be a solution even if it is not perfect
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
- [X] Have scientists immediately, before the ultimatum is even given, researching what can be done to help the people, whether there's a way to slowly wean them from the drugs or find a replacement. Just as with the soil of your home, there must be a solution even if it is not perfect.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Destruction. The Order offends you on a personal, moral level, and so it must be destroyed, torn out by the root so that no trace of it remains.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
 
I'll be honest, I worry about how this might not even rank in the top half of horrible societies we'll meet, and so I worry about setting up the precedent of flying of the handle, though I doubt Horus or any Imperial cares as long as the systems fall under our control.

At the same time I don't see Mortarion being ok with the Poisoning and brainwashing of billions, as it hits to close to home.
 
Well, our Legion already has their words.

"Until it is done, brothers!"

[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
- [X] Have scientists immediately, before the ultimatum is even given, researching what can be done to help the people, whether there's a way to slowly wean them from the drugs or find a replacement. Just as with the soil of your home, there must be a solution even if it is not perfect.
 
for war unending, until it is done."

This, at last, draws a reaction. Ten thousand hands draw ten thousand blades, raised high and glittering in the dying light, and ten thousand voices roar out the same phrase.

"Until it is done!"
You know this going to be the start of something great when our Legion Battlecry is quoting the original mean, green space marine.
You'd not planned on such a call or response, nor on ending the speech there, but better a quick and clean death than a long and torturous end.
Pft. Of course Mortarion would talk about speeches like a death sentence. I can only imagine how people react to him liberally sprinkling that metaphor into every day mundane things.
"I am killing this conversation."
"Such a toxic ideology must be hung from the nearest tree."
"This is not a war for ideals. I am performing pest control on the parasites within my garden."
"I must strangle your request for me to speak the ceremony, as I am currently regrowing my vocal cords after an accidental self-execution."
finding your eyes straying to the wide windows and the glittering stars beyond. The view is so different from the one above Barbarus, and then again from the skies over Terra, but as always, the beauty remains. That might, you think, be the one constant among all this galaxy has to offer.
For a guy who just wants to farm and play medieval geneticist, I like that he's slowly adapting to seeing things in a new way. Space can't support much life, and it's all just gas, radiation, and loose collections of minerals. Not good for farming. But it is a form of nature, and looking up to a brighter tomorrow is one of humanity's oldest traits.
Rare indeed are the men who can look beyond such singular meanings and grasp the importance of the whole. Men like us, my brother."

You snort, shaking your head. "Will you call us lords next? Rulers of the new age, gazing down from our mountain thrones?"
Potentially getting a head start on a rivalry with Big Boy Blue. But considering last time around we made friends with Guilliman despite a higher bar for distaste, actually meeting him may go well.
Exactly!" Horus exclaims, stinging your shoulder with a punch that could have shattered stone, "I did not realise at first, but then I read the reports and I realised – you saw what most could not. You saw the monsters on their thrones and the poison in the soil not as the separate threats they pretended to be, but the singular foe they always were. One needs the sword, the other a plough, but they're both part of the same great work.
Ah, if only your sons understood that need to make government and you didn't have a manchild-feud with Malcador. But then again, that's supposed to be part of the tragedy. The ingredients all there, but the evil they may wrought only visible in hindsight once better nature is discarded. The ego of Horus is always standing behind the charismatic first-among-equals.

I'd make a joke about getting Horus away from his day job to spend time working as a farmer. But that's probably just result in him becoming motivated to create reforms of having the state maintain a controlling stake in all corporations while pushing for more free market engagement. :V
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
- [X] Have scientists immediately, before the ultimatum is even given, researching what can be done to help the people, whether there's a way to slowly wean them from the drugs or find a replacement. Just as with the soil of your home, there must be a solution even if it is not perfect.
 
[X] War
-[X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
-[X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so
- [X] Have scientists immediately, before the ultimatum is even given, researching what can be done to help the people, whether there's a way to slowly wean them from the drugs or find a replacement. Just as with the soil of your home, there must be a solution even if it is not perfect.
 
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