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Son of Death (30k Mortarion Quest)

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[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.

The choice seems easy. Too easy. I am feeling mildly paranoid and waiting for the other shoe to drop, but this is the closest to how I feel, and probably how Mortarion feels (maybe tied with destruction, but he's also the sort of person to heal the soil, so he might want to heal the society as well).
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
 
Waffleman said:
With all the mind controlling drugs in them they possibly might not welcome us as a liberators
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I expect them not to, frankly. Even if we come claiming that we're here to free them from that control, I expect that information to either (a) not get passed to the general population, (b) not be believed, or (c) be used as a reason to fight against us (we'd be changing a way of life they're used to, and it probably actually feels nice to be constantly on drugs).
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
 
[X] Peace
- [X] They are capable of throwing every single of those 50 billions into the grinder of war. Unsustainable attack vector if they are capable of quick war footing. But through peace we can destroy them. And quickly. We made them expand, we made them splatter their attention so wide, they would miss the gun if it was under their nose. And we can have time to prepare conditions for 50 billions to live as a free man.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.

What's funny is that I can only think of one other primarch who would fight a war of liberation for these people, Vulkan. The others wouldn't give a single shit, or at the most they might make a token effort to the notion of bettering the system.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Destruction. The Order offends you on a personal, moral level, and so it must be destroyed, torn out by the root so that no trace of it remains.

I feel like this is an appropriate response.
 
[X] Peace
- [X] They are capable of throwing every single of those 50 billions into the grinder of war. Unsustainable attack vector if they are capable of quick war footing. But through peace we can destroy them. And quickly. We made them expand, we made them splatter their attention so wide, they would miss the gun if it was under their nose. And we can have time to prepare conditions for 50 billions to live as a free man.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Destruction. The Order offends you on a personal, moral level, and so it must be destroyed, torn out by the root so that no trace of it
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so
 
NSMS said:
I expect them not to, frankly. Even if we come claiming that we're here to free them from that control, I expect that information to either (a) not get passed to the general population, (b) not be believed, or (c) be used as a reason to fight against us (we'd be changing a way of life they're used to, and it probably actually feels nice to be constantly on drugs).
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Yeah, The civilization Mortarion is facing is literally just Huxley's Brave New World on a galactic scale. They're very unlikely to treat Mortarion as a liberator. Their descendants are a different matter entirely.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Destruction. The Order offends you on a personal, moral level, and so it must be destroyed, torn out by the root so that no trace of it
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
- [X] Open with an ultimatum: if they end their system and work with the Imperium to reverse the damage it has caused, then they may enter its ranks peacefully. If they refuse, you will force them to do so.
 
Renu said:
Nah, it'll be a quick conquest. In and out, done in a week.
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I'm voting to wipe it out root and branch for what I admit are purely OOC reasons, namely that AU Malcador is lurking somewhere in the shadows and no incarnation of the Sigilite needs to get their grubby paws anywhere near "Mind Control Drugs Total Control Bureaucracy Cult."
 
This will probably be a learning experience for Mortarion that some people dont want to be saved and his reaction to that new knowledge.
 
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[x] War
- [x] Of Destruction. The Order offends you on a personal, moral level, and so it must be destroyed, torn out by the root so that no trace of it remains.
 
[X] War
- [x] Of Liberation. You object to how the Order treats its subjects, and you have the might and self-proclaimed right to intervene on their behalf.
 
Yeah, liberators is going to run into these people having been given mind altering drugs for ages now. Not everyone is going to want to rebel.
 
The3rdCorinthian said:
Yeah, liberators is going to run into these people having been given mind altering drugs for ages now. Not everyone is going to want to rebel.
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Oh yes, for sure. However, we're playing as the british imperialism legion, so clearly we need to liberate these poor sods, saving them from their own selves.

And steal their spice.
 
[X] War
- [X] Of Destruction. The Order offends you on a personal, moral level, and so it must be destroyed, torn out by the root so that no trace of it
 
I believe that the only way to undue this system without catastrophic loss of life will be with the cooperation of at least some of the bureaucracy that currently rules - thus, we need to come up with a suitable carrot and stick to both threaten and convince at least some of them to defect.
 
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