For a Moment, There Was Hope [Space Vehicle Design Quest]

I think Quebec is a solid thing to for here, and the siren song of "10 Utility" is calling to me. Double digits are good advertising, dontcha know.

[X] CMIC (+1 Payload, +3 Utility, +1 Weight. 3 Budget.)
 
[X] KC (+2 Payload, +1 Weight. 2 Budget.)
[X] CMIC (+1 Payload, +3 Utility, +1 Weight. 3 Budget.)


Minimise Risk for the first product, get income to mitigate risk in future projects.
 
[X] Internal Development (-2 Weight, 1 Budget. 2 Hazard.)

14 statline for 5 weight is something I'm interested in. I won't complain about 18 statline on 8 weight if CMIC wins tho.
 
So, I've just done an eyeball count, and the results wind up looking like this:

KC: 10
RTI: 2
Internal: 13
CMIC: 16

It's a surprisingly close game all around... other than RTI, which is appropriately placed.

For those who are concerned about the way that CMIC heads into the final round with only 1 budget, I note that this is the last of the engineering phases. The only phase left is a non-engineering phase, and I would expect that a non-engineering phase would have at least one option that wouldn't cost budget, and probably one option at the budget 1 level.

I again assert that KC is woefully inefficient when compared to CMIC... especially because, let's recall, landing the Quebec contract makes this one a win for us regardless of what the open market does. If we land the Quebec contract, everything we can sell on the open market is bonus.
 
Adhoc vote count started by grimely on Dec 2, 2023 at 6:19 PM, finished with 47 posts and 34 votes.


If you click on the new tally button at the bottom of the new post box you can have it count for you.
 
CMIC continues to be a very solid choice for chasing the Quebec contract while also being viable for the civilian market and generating no hazard. Its major downside is the fact that we're down to 1 Budget.
For those who are concerned about the way that CMIC heads into the final round with only 1 budget, I note that this is the last of the engineering phases. The only phase left is a non-engineering phase, and I would expect that a non-engineering phase would have at least one option that wouldn't cost budget, and probably one option at the budget 1 level.
You've already been corrected on this in an earlier post, but you're still repeating it. 5-3=2. CMIC leaves us with 2 budget.
 
[X] Internal Development (-2 Weight, 1 Budget. 2 Hazard.)

I do like that weight reduction, and we've already started making stuff in-house with the fuel cells, so why not.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Havocfett on Dec 4, 2023 at 12:31 PM, finished with 52 posts and 36 votes.
 
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Scheduled vote count started by Havocfett on Dec 1, 2023 at 11:09 PM, finished with 53 posts and 36 votes.
 
Just read this all the way through. Really liking how it's going honestly.

As to the current vote…

Contentious debate but I don't mind this option. In every other phase 2 budget has been enough to get us something reasonable (even here 2 budget would have been enough for the KC option which wasn't bad, just sub par)

So we should be able to get something reasonable. Even if we do get a reputation as "that guy who uses every last bit of budget we give him", if we provide results no one will care. The budget is there to be spent.
 
Just read this all the way through. Really liking how it's going honestly.

As to the current vote…

Contentious debate but I don't mind this option. In every other phase 2 budget has been enough to get us something reasonable (even here 2 budget would have been enough for the KC option which wasn't bad, just sub par)

So we should be able to get something reasonable. Even if we do get a reputation as "that guy who uses every last bit of budget we give him", if we provide results no one will care. The budget is there to be spent.
What people ignore is that being "that guy who uses every last bit of budget we give him" also means "that guy who never goes over budget"
 
It also means "the guy who clearly needed all of the budget we gave him so we shouldn't give him less budget next time", which is a very useful reputation to have.
 
It's pretty much a universal standard for companies, goverment agencies, schools and other other organization where bean counters or profit margin manaics get any form actual authority.


Use your budget or you get screwed over next budget cycle.
 
2114: Project Abilkhan Full Production
It's done.

The modular tunneling system is swift and easy to integrate into the Abilkhan prototype. There are some teething issues: Hull geometry takes weeks to line up with the modular equipment and you've had screaming arguments with Nabiyev over power draw, but it's done. Abilkhan has a functioning full prototype, then a first run at a production model, then, in December, its first true chassis rolls off your production line in Baikonur.

By March 2113, it's off to trials in Quebec and Low Earth Orbit. By April, the Musabayev K-111 is on the market.

The first batch hits the asteroid belt in July, purchased by a Kazakh mining firm. Glowing reviews return within weeks. Miners and maintenance personnel alike love the K-111, and orders are flooding in.

In February '14, you win the Quebecois contract.

By December, you have a new problem:

Musabayev inherited a lot of skilled engineers, scientists, and similar personnel. It didn't inherit businessfolk or a large workforce. As a result, you've sold many more K-111s than you can actually produce.

Your two extant assembly lines finish a K-111 every day, more than half of which are promised to the Quebecois contract. Your third assembly line has run into a snarl of parts shortages, while your spaceborne lines at L2 aren't going online until '19. You're looking at a six year backlog on extant orders, and four and a half years to fulfill the Quebec contract. Especially as Team A's construction vehicle is shaping up to be fairly competitive, which'll eat even more of your limited access to new assembly lines.

Without new lines, you're looking at the possibility of the Abilkhan being obsolete almost the moment its first production run is finished. But, well, if new lines were easy you'd already have them.

Miss Nabiyev puts together an emergency New Year's Eve meeting to decide on a path forward. You, her, and Nabil have become the de-facto project heads, and so it's up to you to set your vacation time on fire and come up with a plan immediately.

Nabil's suggestion is conservative but practical: Accept the fuck-up. The K-111 is under budget, you can reinvest that money, and some of the proceeds from the Quebec contract, into hiring some specialists and getting two more assembly lines going within a year, albeit at brutal price markups. You limit orders and raise prices until it's done, the Quebec order should be finished by '17, and you should get that backlog down to four years. Maybe three if you're lucky.

It's brutal, and will cut into the landmark success of the K-111, but so long as nothing else goes wrong it should work out. And it won't require a more painful compromise.

Your option, when you outline it, gets a hiss of disapproval from the Kazakh employees. Still, they consider it by the time you're through with the explanation. Musabayev and KazakhCosmos had a pretty unpleasant split, but KazakhCosmos got a lot of the industrial specialists in that split and are clearly interested in rapproachement. You could get government assistance in getting the new assembly lines working, political pressure to move you up the waiting lines on parts, and advice on making sure this doesn't happen again. It'll mean KC will lean on you in the future, but as a big Kazakh success story, you can lean back and it'll be cheaper than doing it yourself.

Nabiyev's suggestion shocks you, coming from the mouth of an avowed anarchist. She wants to accept private investment from CMIC and central asian retail investors. CMIC already has spare production capacity, and could easily bend some of it towards new K-111 lines. They'd also provide a ready supply of investment for future projects, lessening some of your brutal budget concerns. But, well, you'd be accepting monetary investment, and so become beholden to the whims of your investors.

And finally, the spectre at the back of your minds. Unsaid by anyone in the meeting, yet monumental in its presence:

Quebec.

Quebec would view opening a production line in Montreal or Gatineau, or maybe even in the still-smoldering wastes of Quebec City, as a favor you were doing for them. Labor's cheap. Dispossessed, educated types are plentiful. You could probably more than make back your cost in subsidies.

Sure, you'd piss off the Americans, but they're Americans. No-one in Asia is obligated to give a shit about them anymore. Sure, you'd be contributing to some genuinely horrific labor practices, but the economics are inarguable and you can offer humane conditions at your offices. Sure, you'd piss off the entire Musabayev workforce, but they'll come around in a year, maybe two.

The economics are inarguable. The question is simply if you can stomach the politics.

By the new year, you have an answer.


How do you handle the bottleneck?
Remaining Budget: 2


[ ] Limit orders, raise prices, and reinvest in production lines. (Limits success, eats remaining budget. Hazard [4-2] = 2 Hazard)

[ ] Accept KazakhCosmos Assistance (Gain additional political backing in exchange for political interference on future projects.)

[ ] Accept CMIC Investment (Gain additional funds in exchange for corporate interference on future projects.)

[ ] Accept Quebec Outsourcing (Further ties with Quebec. Deeply unpopular, guaranteed success.)


Musabayev K-111 Astro-Miner

Payload: 8
Utility: 10
Weight: 8
Maintenance: 4
Unit Cost: Medium
Hazard: 0
 
Congratulations!

[X] Accept KazakhCosmos Assistance (Gain additional political backing in exchange for political interference on future projects.)

I think I prefer this to any other option.
 
[X] Accept CMIC Investment (Gain additional funds in exchange for corporate interference on future projects.)


Yes corpo interference sucks but We sell on the global market. most of the economy and most of our clientele aren't socilist and aren't anarchist. By taking this hit on the nose we can show the world we can be talked to which makes our group more resonaiable looking to everyone other then purity testing morons.
 
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