A World Turned Upside Down - A Military R&D Quest

[X] Generator Rebuild - The need to periodically shut down the generators every three hours presents a notable vulnerability that must be resolved. The cause of the problem is known, but the solution will require some work. (1 point)
[X] Terminal Guidance System Debugging - The current false alarms in the TGS are dangerous, even if the operator is told of the possibility. As such, it is rather important the cause of this false alarm is determined and the system modified to resolve the problem. (1 point)
 
[X] Redesigned Floatation - By heavily modifying the helium container design, the issues pertaining to MANPAD vulnerability should be resolved. Moreover, it should further harden the Goliath against anti-air weaponry. (2 points)
 
Vote is now closed. Looks like the generator rebuild and surge power protection win.
Scheduled vote count started by Daemon Hunter on Apr 4, 2023 at 1:29 AM, finished with 24 posts and 20 votes.

  • [X] Generator Rebuild - The need to periodically shut down the generators every three hours presents a notable vulnerability that must be resolved. The cause of the problem is known, but the solution will require some work. (1 point)
    [X] Surge Power Protection - By installing additional batteries, fuses, and electronic monitoring systems, it should be possible to resolve the brownout issues that appear during levels of high power consumption. (1 point)
    [X] Terminal Guidance System Debugging - The current false alarms in the TGS are dangerous, even if the operator is told of the possibility. As such, it is rather important the cause of this false alarm is determined and the system modified to resolve the problem. (1 point)
    [x] Redesigned Layout - Redesigning the layout from scratch will be a tedious and lengthy process but would allow for two notable issues to be resolved. The storage issue and vulnerability to internal sabotages. (2 points)
    [X] Redesigned Floatation - By heavily modifying the helium container design, the issues pertaining to MANPAD vulnerability should be resolved. Moreover, it should further harden the Goliath against anti-air weaponry. (2 points)
    [x] Redesigned Floatation
 
2037 Part 4 - Updated Predictions and Drone Design
[X] Generator Rebuild - The need to periodically shut down the generators every three hours presents a notable vulnerability that must be resolved. The cause of the problem is known, but the solution will require some work. (1 point)
[X] Surge Power Protection - By installing additional batteries, fuses, and electronic monitoring systems, it should be possible to resolve the brownout issues that appear during levels of high power consumption. (1 point)

2037 Internal Report - BRISTLE Upgrade Package

The Head of Quality Assurance has provided a report on updates to the BRISTLE. Despite attempts at simplifying the interface, it has proven to be a failure in many ways. Considerable effort went into the project, and as a result, several annual bonuses were reduced. However simple computational upgrades were still possible, allowing for a minor improvement in networking with other systems.

2037 Internal Report - Continued Goliath Development

Continued development of the Goliath has gone well. While the generator rebuild was complicated and increased the predicted operational costs, the improvements to the power grid were unexpectedly useful. Using insight from EMP shielding methods in use by the United American power grid, we were able to harden the grid up to 500% peak power usage. With the current equipment, it's expected that only 250% peak power usage is possible, ensuring that more complex systems can be added in the future. Additionally, DARPA has expressed interest in this engineering design.

2037 External Report - Updated Nuclear War Predictions

Recent developments in atmospheric and planetary sciences have caused Project HADES to update its simulations. Intelligence reports have led to the figure of 2.4 teratons of nuclear explosives detonating in the first and second nuclear strikes. In comparison, the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs was 100 teratons. As such, the Earth is expected to be blanketed in total darkness for 18 days post-exchange.

Of greater cause for concern are the electromagnetic effects due to airbursts. These detonations are predicted to strip away the entirety of the ozone layer, rendering cancer rates on the surface as a near certainty for unprotected individuals. More worrying are some indications that Earth's magnetic field may be disrupted. This is debated thankfully, but if the magnetic field is damaged in some way, the atmosphere will be stripped away over the course of a century. That would make survival more complicated.

"A lot of people have been talking about radiation shielding tech as the next big thing, regardless of nuclear war. I've heard some pretty crazy things happening out in Bogota and Mexico City. Meanwhile, NASA is talking about creating some sort of "time-capsule" to shoot up into space to act as a final message to anyone out there that humanity once lived." - Arthur

2037 Internal Report - Drone Design

While development on the Goliath has proceeded at pace, the drones themselves need to be designed. The United American government has explained that they have 5 other companies creating competing models as well, but also that they may choose multiple designs if they prove to be useful. For the design, some basic decisions need to be made.

GM Note: The complexity here is for the drones themselves, not for the Goliath.

Payload (Pick 1)
[] None - Creating a direct impactor would be simple, but it'd also make it far less reliable and difficult to target ICBMs. *-4 Complexity*
[] High Explosives - The default choice, this is well understood and exists in current anti-ballistic missile designs. *0 Complexity*
[] Tactical Nuclear Warhead - A 50-kiloton nuclear weapon would create a large enough blast radius to ensure most ICBMs are intercepted. It would be expensive, however. *+6 Complexity*
[] ECM Coverage - While this alone would not allow for intercept, a dedicated ECM drone would ensure additional backups and flexibility during operation. *+2 Complexity*
[] Write-in

Ceiling (Pick 1)
[] 1200km - Allowing for the midcourse intercept of all ICBM versions, this would be extraordinarily complicated and expensive. However, it would make interceptions far easier. *+32 Complexity*
[] 200km - A less extreme option capable of intercepting in space, and intercepting SRBMs at midcourse. This would still be highly expensive, but less so. *+8 Complexity*
[] 30km - High altitude operation in the atmosphere is well understood and by now fairly routine. While traditional missiles only operate up to 20km, it is possible to extend that significantly further with specialized engines. *+2 Complexity*
[] 10km - Standard low-altitude drones are simple to create. However, at this altitude, there is little room for error as many nuclear warheads have an 8-kilometer blast radius. *0 Complexity*

Operational Timeline (Pick 1)
[] 72 hours - A complex engineering problem that would make the limiting factor of range of the Goliath's protective envelope radar coverage, this would allow for a 900km operational range. However, it'd also be difficult to implement. *+16 Complexity*
[] 24 hours - Extending the operational timeline of the drones would allow for a 300km operational range. This would make the drone capable of hovering at 80km for extended periods of time as well. *+4 Complexity*
[] 6 hours - The expected operational timeline, this involves adding limited loitering abilities allowing for a 75km range of continued operation, with further ranges being one-way trips. *0 Complexity*
[] 1 hour - Allowing for only short-duration operation would simplify drone design, but would also reduce operational readiness and complicate Goliath operation. *-4 Complexity*
 
As there have been some discussions involving the whole exchange, it should be noted that ideally all three strikes will take place around 7.5 hours.

But as everyone is aware, war is never ideal when it comes to schedules.
 
As there have been some discussions involving the whole exchange, it should be noted that ideally all three strikes will take place around 7.5 hours.

But as everyone is aware, war is never ideal when it comes to schedules.

To be specific, the expected timeline is for the first strike to happen in 1.5 hours. Second strike happens 2 hours after that. With the third strike happenning 4 hours later. Note that this is what is predicted, not what will actually occur.
 
[X] Plan Sky Rocks
-[X] None - Creating a direct impactor would be simple, but it'd also make it far less reliable and difficult to target ICBMs. *-4 Complexity*
-[X] 200km - A less extreme option capable of intercepting in space, and intercepting SRBMs at midcourse. This would still be highly expensive, but less so. *+8 Complexity*
-[X] 24 hours - Extending the operational timeline of the drones would allow for a 300km operational range. This would make the drone capable of hovering at 80km for extended periods of time as well. *+4 Complexity*
 
[X] Plan: Nuclear Eternal Guardian
-[X] Tactical Nuclear Warhead - A 50-kiloton nuclear weapon would create a large enough blast radius to ensure most ICBMs are intercepted. It would be expensive, however. *+6 Complexity*
-[X] 1200km - Allowing for the midcourse intercept of all ICBM versions, this would be extraordinarily complicated and expensive. However, it would make interceptions far easier. *+32 Complexity*
-[X] 72 hours - A complex engineering problem that would make the limiting factor of range of the Goliath's protective envelope radar coverage, this would allow for a 900km operational range. However, it'd also be difficult to implement. *+16 Complexity*
 
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[X] Plan The last 4th of July
-[X] High Explosives - The default choice, this is well understood and exists in current anti-ballistic missile designs. *0 Complexity*
-[X] 200km - A less extreme option capable of intercepting in space, and intercepting SRBMs at midcourse. This would still be highly expensive, but less so. *+8 Complexity*
-[X] 24 hours - Extending the operational timeline of the drones would allow for a 300km operational range. This would make the drone capable of hovering at 80km for extended periods of time as well. *+4 Complexity*
 
[X] Plan: Nuclear Eternal Guardian
-[X] Tactical Nuclear Warhead - A 50-kiloton nuclear weapon would create a large enough blast radius to ensure most ICBMs are intercepted. It would be expensive, however. *+6 Complexity*
-[X] 1200km - Allowing for the midcourse intercept of all ICBM versions, this would be extraordinarily complicated and expensive. However, it would make interceptions far easier. *+32 Complexity*
-[X] 72 hours - A complex engineering problem that would make the limiting factor of range of the Goliath's protective envelope radar coverage, this would allow for a 900km operational range. However, it'd also be difficult to implement. *+16 Complexity*

I will say that this would be less an attempt to get something that'd actually work, and more an attempt to get the UA government to subsidize the start of a space program for you.
 
It also has the benefit of being easy to sell to the government. They already are open to using multiple drones after all, and Sky Rocks are the best disposable first responder in nuclear defense.

Should also give us a look into quite a bit of interesting tech quickly, since we aren't messing with explosives.
 
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[X] Plan Multi-Spectrum Coverage
-[X] ECM Coverage - While this alone would not allow for intercept, a dedicated ECM drone would ensure additional backups and flexibility during operation. *+2 Complexity*
-[X] 200km - A less extreme option capable of intercepting in space, and intercepting SRBMs at midcourse. This would still be highly expensive, but less so. *+8 Complexity*
-[X] 24 hours - Extending the operational timeline of the drones would allow for a 300km operational range. This would make the drone capable of hovering at 80km for extended periods of time as well. *+4 Complexity*

So this is meant to ensure that there is at least one ECM drone out there. Also, the fact it's a long range, high altitude ECM drone means that the shorter range actual interceptor drones are likely to have much higher hit probabilities because they've been receiving a lot of information from the ECM drones to refine their interceptions along with weeding out decoys and defeating the ICBM's own ECM.

That said, what are the planners, and the government's, thoughts on making an ECM Drone which has 1200km and/or 72 hour endurance @Daemon Hunter ? Overkill or actually useful?
 
That said, what are the planners, and the government's, thoughts on making an ECM Drone which has 1200km and/or 72 hour endurance @Daemon Hunter ? Overkill or actually useful?

For that, the government would absolutely love a 1200km range system that is actually reliable. It's just that they kind of don't expect it to really do what they want so would consider attempts to create one a waste of time. As fora 72 hour endurance system, that's a more reasonable stretch goal in their eyes. It'd be rather useful, but it'd also be difficult to achieve.

Basically they're both useful if they can be achieved. It's just that that's not expected to actually work.
 
[X] Plan: Counter-Nuke Shield
-[X] Tactical Nuclear Warhead - A 50-kiloton nuclear weapon would create a large enough blast radius to ensure most ICBMs are intercepted. It would be expensive, however. *+6 Complexity*
-[X] 200km - A less extreme option capable of intercepting in space, and intercepting SRBMs at midcourse. This would still be highly expensive, but less so. *+8 Complexity*
-[X] 24 hours - Extending the operational timeline of the drones would allow for a 300km operational range. This would make the drone capable of hovering at 80km for extended periods of time as well. *+4 Complexity*

We're only going to get one chance once the big red button gets pressed, so let's give it a real good shot with some time to line it up beforehand.
 
[X] Plan The last 4th of July

Eh, no great or exciting options but this works.
 
For that, the government would absolutely love a 1200km range system that is actually reliable. It's just that they kind of don't expect it to really do what they want so would consider attempts to create one a waste of time. As fora 72 hour endurance system, that's a more reasonable stretch goal in their eyes. It'd be rather useful, but it'd also be difficult to achieve.

Basically they're both useful if they can be achieved. It's just that that's not expected to actually work.
Okay, so if the government would love a 1200km, 72 Hour ECM Drone but don't believe it would be viable... Would they prefer a guaranteed 200km, 24 Hour ECM Drone or an attempt at the 1200km, 72 Hour ECM Drone which downgrades that maximum altitude and range as needed to ensure it's reliable? Basically, how accepting are they of dropping Complexity coming in Altitude and Endurance reductions?

Also, mind saying why they sound in love with ECM Drones with those capabilities? Is it basically because of how useful having an ECM Drone like that would be for all sorts of things other than just strategic missile interceptions, including boosting the effect of interceptor drones? Or is it something more?
 
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