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Son of Death (30k Mortarion Quest)

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[X] Camaraderie. It was mortal men that scaled the peaks of Barbarus and followed Mortarion into battle. What manner of men have followed the Emperor to this star?
 
So with this Mortarion. Is he going to be less infantry focused? Cause, from my understanding, he was and it induced high attrition amongst his Legion. Or will his approach be different if he remains the same doctrinal wise?
 
eaenidu said:
Side Note: This made me wonder about other Primarch's Morty wouldn't like. Or ones he would like.
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Until we meet the other Primarchs, the only indicator we have right now is the Emperor himself. That said:
Maugan Ra said:
"When they told me you had become a farmer, I was surprised,"
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He certainly expected something very different. In a way we did break his expectations and this is clearly a much different path compared to what the other Primarchs did.

Magnus might come the closest, but only because his purpose always lied in the arcane and the Warp instead of ruling directly.
Maugan Ra said:
"It seemed such a waste of your talents."
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Seemed being the key word. The Emperor is clearly admitting that he himself didn't quite know what to make of it until he saw it with his own eyes or thought it over. It at least shows that the Emperor had his own expectations, but is willing to discard those if he is suitably impressed. (I think)
Maugan Ra said:
the Emperor says, looking you over from head to toe with an artisan's pride in his eyes,
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Could just be Mortarion's misinterpretation, but this is not the "you haven't met my expectations" look, but rather "I'm actually impressed with what I created and what it became." There are good and bad interpretations of this section.
Maugan Ra said:
You come to a halt on just the other side of your gate, feeling the subtle barrier of the threshold that keeps the daemon from stepping closer. This land is yours, wrought and claimed by your own two hands, and that matters to such beings more than it might to mere men.
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This is certainly interesting. It's either proof that Mortarion consciously uses Psyker powers or that there's a certain weight to territory, actions and connections that get enhanced by his own nature.

It does show that the Emperor respects his territory and home. He didn't invite himself in, but kept himself on the border of what is physically and metaphysically Mortarion's land. Not just a planet of a Primarch's birth, but recognition of his home.
Maugan Ra said:
I came here to ask you to join me – to fulfil the purpose for which you were made, and repeat the triumph of Barbarus across the stars."
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Ask and triumph being the key words this time. Could just be the Emperor buttering him up, but it shows a distinct respect to Mortarion. "What you achieved is worthy of praise and you proved yourself as one of my sons," "I see that you have a life of your own, yet I ask you to follow me in my own task."

It's certainly a very respectful showing so far.

The Emperor is a matured man and experienced leader, but even he needed a moment to appreciate Mortarion's decision (that's what I'm getting from it at least). His prior interactions with Primarchs colouring his expectations.

As for the other Primarchs? Most will have the same expectations, but will be far less capable of adjusting them as the Emperor did. I don't expect us to get along with most of them from the start. Probably not even half.
 
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[X] Camaraderie. It was mortal men that scaled the peaks of Barbarus and followed Mortarion into battle. What manner of men have followed the Emperor to this star?
 
[X] Humility. The Emperor may wage war on the stars and rule over billions, but has he ever laboured for his bread?
 
HalfTangible said:
Nah, Ains admitted he was a hypocrite. We don't need to worry about that from Big E.
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Don't jinx it.

Crimson Alchemis said:
So with this Mortarion. Is he going to be less infantry focused? Cause, from my understanding, he was and it induced high attrition amongst his Legion. Or will his approach be different if he remains the same doctrinal wise?
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That is the right question and we may be giving an answer to it down the line.
 
[X] Camaraderie. It was mortal men that scaled the peaks of Barbarus and followed Mortarion into battle. What manner of men have followed the Emperor to this star?
 
I love all the options and the other two might well be moregood as actual tests of character but after his dissing of farmers earlier and thanks to knowing Him, even if he is not turbo fascist the god-king of fascism in this version of the setting, I'm still spiteful enough to want to see him brought low.

However writing that I realised I was still buying into the idea that there are high and low tasks and that doing a low task is degrading. So instead,

[x] Camaraderie. It was mortal men that scaled the peaks of Barbarus and followed Mortarion into battle. What manner of men have followed the Emperor to this star?
 
[X] Humility. The Emperor may wage war on the stars and rule over billions, but has he ever laboured for his bread?
 
[X] Camaraderie. It was mortal men that scaled the peaks of Barbarus and followed Mortarion into battle. What manner of men have followed the Emperor to this star?
 
[X] Camaraderie. It was mortal men that scaled the peaks of Barbarus and followed Mortarion into battle. What manner of men have followed the Emperor to this star?
 
Czes said:
It's certainly a very respectful showing so far.
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I think the thing that stuck out to me the most was this bit:
Maugan Ra said:
"Touch but one of my people and I will scare the crows with your flayed hide," you say bluntly, stabbing the scythe into the ground blade up and leaning slightly against the haft. "Harm them, and it will be worse."

The daemon blinks, and you'll give it credit for being a good actor. If it were not for all the other ways in which its disguise is fundamentally flawed, you might even believe it was genuinely surprised.

"Harm them? Mortarion, why would I.."
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Emps is like... legitimately shocked that the conversation even went there. He's not all knowing, all manipulating, everything is according to the plan in his head.

Causing harm to the people of Barbarus was so far from his mind that the very concept being brought up just throws him off his game. Heck, he can be thrown off his game!

Of course, this might just be how he presents himself to one of his 'Successful' sons, but it's a far cry from the Perfectly composed Visionary Unfeeling Deity of Breaker of Chains.
 
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