Considering we started to get projects for CoMC after we actually studied it a little, I can't help but wonder what sort of projects we'd get if we actually tried to study our two worst skills, Muggle Studies and Divination.

I have a funny image of Jacob getting the project 'How does a car work?' and having to figure out the physics and chemical science necessary to get a basic understanding of how it does what it does.
About that... I have been thinking about how hysterical would be if Jacob discovered D&D´s manuals, and he could use the Magic Item section as an inspiration for his Alchemical projects...
 
[X] Portus – Transfiguration. A Portkey Spell is used to transform an ordinary object into a Portkey, allowing the user to instantly transport to the destined location. The usage of this spell is strictly regulated by the Ministry of Magic due to the potential dangers of unauthorized teleportation. You can use this on other people. There is no range restriction for this spell, but you need a few minutes of preparation time ... but there are a few traps that you could set up with something like this. Who would expect a common object to teleport you away? Requires Transfiguration Skill of A- & Alchemy D+, DC: 150.

Changing to Portkey. The reason being that while someone would expect that someone can apparate later on, being able to make portkeys seems to be more rare. I can't recall if Amos Diggory just used a Ministry made one to get to the World Cup or if he made one himself.
 
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[X] Portus – Transfiguration. A Portkey Spell is used to transform an ordinary object into a Portkey, allowing the user to instantly transport to the destined location. The usage of this spell is strictly regulated by the Ministry of Magic due to the potential dangers of unauthorized teleportation. You can use this on other people. There is no range restriction for this spell, but you need a few minutes of preparation time ... but there are a few traps that you could set up with something like this. Who would expect a common object to teleport you away? Requires Transfiguration Skill of A- & Alchemy D+, DC: 150.

Changed my mind. This seems to open up the potential for more cunning and sneaky shit.
 
Portkeys can also be used offensively! Like if Jacob needs to catch a dark wizard, neat animal, or put the Soul-Catcher in the stratosphere! :D

Also imagine the. shenanigans of saying catch to annoying people and throwing them a portkey keyed to like Diagon Alley. Lol.
 
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Unauthorized portkey creation is punishable though. And where one could make the arguement that Jacob earned his apparition qualification on his home island and is thus allow to use it, unauthorized portkey use would be a lot harder to justify. Which would mean only using it in a covert fashion, as a last resort or an emergency escape, nothing fancy.
 
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Unauthorized portkey creation is punishable though. And where one could make the arguement that Jacob earned his apparition qualification on his home island and is thus allow to use it, unauthorized portkey use would be a lot harder to justify. Which would mean only using it in a covert fashion, as a last resort or an emergency escape, nothing fancy.

True, and then it could be argued as desperate measures... like against dark wizards and creatures! Wonder if they check a wizards wand if under suspicion of making a portkey, or of they have someway to track it similar to the trace. But also, what if the portkey were made outside of Brittains territory. Quick way home.

Portkeys would be a tool available if the ministry goes full Voldemort callousion this time over too.
 
Both options are interesting, with potinal reasech leads regarding space and Hogwarts' magic. Portkey just feels like the less trodden path, fandom wise at least.
Plus, a bit more relevant for next year's plot.
I feel like it will give us more options to strategize. It would be a great way out, if we are not concentrated (us or other that can't apparate). Portkey have a greater reach than apparition. And finally, I want to punch someone with a porkey so he goes bye bye directly into prison, the ocean, a volcano or something.
Changing to Portkey. The reason being that while someone would expect that someone can apparate later on, being able to make portkeys seems to be more rare. I can't recall if Amos Diggory just used a Ministry made one to get to the World Cup or if he made one himself.
TBH, there is a pretty good reason why Portkeys are a less throdden path...

They are significantly less versatile and useful than apparition, so why wouldyou use a horse carriage when you can get a car?... When you want to teleport you want to teleport immediately and freely, and not need to wait until you reprogram your portkey or to create another one...
 
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True, and then it could be argued as desperate measures... like against dark wizards and creatures! Wonder if they check a wizards wand if under suspicion of making a portkey, or of they have someway to track it similar to the trace. But also, what if the portkey were made outside of Brittains territory. Quick way home.

Portkeys would be a tool available if the ministry goes full Voldemort callousion this time over too.
HP Wiki said:
In Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Remus Lupin explains: "t's more than our life's worth to set up an unauthorised Portkey." This suggests the ministry either is notified when Portkeys are created, or else will know about them when an underage wizard one due to the Trace. The latter case would create an exception to the way the Trace typically operates, which is limited to only detecting magic performed around the underage wizard and the use of already-enchanted objects.

It does seem that there's a way for them to track it, likely on creation (Makes no sense for the trace to track it). At least with apparition we have a non-british wand and thus aren't subject to the trace.
 
Where is the 'Rien ne va plus'-Gang when talking about rules and laws? :ninja:

Vote still open until an Update drops, which might be today. Current Tally:
Portus - 18
Apparition - 17
Adhoc vote count started by Tabula Rasa on Jan 6, 2023 at 6:18 AM, finished with 78 posts and 35 votes.

  • [X] Apparition (Basic Understanding) – Charm. A spell that allows for teleportation of oneself from one location to another. This spell requires an immense amount of skill and concentration, as a misstep could result in serious injury or even death. It is also heavily regulated, as it requires a license to be able to perform Apparition. But let's be honest, you don't have a British registered wand. You know that you can do whatever you want on your vacations … no one will find out, probably. At this stage you are very loud, and your apparition needs a lot of time for concentration. You can't use this in combat or with another person yet, but you can clearly see the potential. Requires Charms Skill of A- & Constitution 4, DC: 150.
    [X] PortusTransfiguration. A Portkey Spell is used to transform an ordinary object into a Portkey, allowing the user to instantly transport to the destined location. The usage of this spell is strictly regulated by the Ministry of Magic due to the potential dangers of unauthorized teleportation. You can use this on other people. There is no range restriction for this spell, but you need a few minutes of preparation time ... but there are a few traps that you could set up with something like this. Who would expect a common object to teleport you away? Requires Transfiguration Skill of A- & Alchemy D+, DC: 150.
    [X] Portus
    [X] PortusTransfiguration.
    [X] Apparition (Basic Understanding)
 
Come on guys let´s get a few more votes for apparition!!!

Even I, one of the guys who always support the creation of alchemical items as a worthy investment despite the extra time and money it went on them, can see that the Portkey is significantly less useful than Apparition.
 
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I don't really agree that apparation is more useful. Portus opens up the potential for traps and shit as the option itself clearly states. Let Jacob use his creativity and intelligence to fuck over people
 
[X] PortusTransfiguration. A Portkey Spell is used to transform an ordinary object into a Portkey, allowing the user to instantly transport to the destined location. The usage of this spell is strictly regulated by the Ministry of Magic due to the potential dangers of unauthorized teleportation. You can use this on other people. There is no range restriction for this spell, but you need a few minutes of preparation time ... but there are a few traps that you could set up with something like this. Who would expect a common object to teleport you away? Requires Transfiguration Skill of A- & Alchemy D+, DC: 150.
 
I don't really agree that apparation is more useful. Portus opens up the potential for traps and shit as the option itself clearly states. Let Jacob use his creativity and intelligence to fuck over people
Yeah, but besides that only gimmick apparition is clearly superior...

Because let´s be honest when you need to use teleportation for an emergency you want to be able to teleport immediately to wherever you want, and not depend on some preset coordinates... And when using it outside of emergencies it is still a pain to have to reprogram the damned thing.

And the limitation for people transported is nullified when you gett better control over it...
 
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I need Yellow Flash Jacob in my life :p

[X] Apparition (Basic Understanding) – Charm. A spell that allows for teleportation of oneself from one location to another. This spell requires an immense amount of skill and concentration, as a misstep could result in serious injury or even death. It is also heavily regulated, as it requires a license to be able to perform Apparition. But let's be honest, you don't have a British registered wand. You know that you can do whatever you want on your vacations … no one will find out, probably. At this stage you are very loud, and your apparition needs a lot of time for concentration. You can't use this in combat or with another person yet, but you can clearly see the potential. Requires Charms Skill of A- & Constitution 4, DC: 150.
 
I don't really agree that apparation is more useful. Portus opens up the potential for traps and shit as the option itself clearly states. Let Jacob use his creativity and intelligence to fuck over people

Portus has more potential for traps, but apparition has much more potential when we need to go somewhere now and has more use in novel situations, something we're going to encounter pretty often with how Jacob likes to explore.

Also to use the trap gimmick we need to develop other spells and we need to craft other items, whereas with apparition we can learn it and be done, it's much less of an action tax.
 
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Doesnt everyone at Hogwarts get a chance at an appiration course in their fifth year? Wasnt that how Harry / Hermione did it.
 
Yeah, but besides that only gimmick apparition is clearly superior...

Because let´s be honest when you need to use teleportation for an emergency you want to be able to teleport immediately to wherever you want, and not depend on some preset coordinates... And when using it outside of emergencies it is still a pain to have to reprogram the damned thing.

And the limitation for people transported is nullified when you gett better control over it...

Yes, but apparition needs concentration and can dramatically fail (with for exemple a bad roll) whereas Portkey work no matter our state when using it.
 
Doesnt everyone at Hogwarts get a chance at an appiration course in their fifth year? Wasnt that how Harry / Hermione did it.

Sixth year. But I don't know about you but this quest started in May 2018 and we're only just finishing third year. I don't want to wait that long.

If we want to learn both, we're better off picking up apparition and asking Nicholas about how to make portkeys over the summer.

Yes, but apparition needs concentration and can dramatically fail (with for exemple a bad roll) whereas Portkey work no matter our state when using it.

Unless the portkey gets taken away or dispelled, it's not a sure thing, it can fail much like apparition as well.

As for concentration Jacob has shown multiple times to keep his head in moments of peril, the whole dementer incident comes to mind. If he can pull off a novel use of spell under those conditions I heavily doubt concentration will be too much of a consideration.

Edit: responding to a second comment to avoid double posting
 
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Yes, but apparition needs concentration and can dramatically fail (with for exemple a bad roll) whereas Portkey work no matter our state when using it.
The basic understanding of apparition needs concentration and time, but since there will be at least another level, or maybe another two, that concentration part will become less relevant as we upgrade it...
 
[X] Apparition (Basic Understanding) – Charm. A spell that allows for teleportation of oneself from one location to another. This spell requires an immense amount of skill and concentration, as a misstep could result in serious injury or even death. It is also heavily regulated, as it requires a license to be able to perform Apparition. But let's be honest, you don't have a British registered wand. You know that you can do whatever you want on your vacations … no one will find out, probably. At this stage you are very loud, and your apparition needs a lot of time for concentration. You can't use this in combat or with another person yet, but you can clearly see the potential. Requires Charms Skill of A- & Constitution 4, DC: 150.
 
[X] Apparition (Basic Understanding) – Charm. A spell that allows for teleportation of oneself from one location to another. This spell requires an immense amount of skill and concentration, as a misstep could result in serious injury or even death. It is also heavily regulated, as it requires a license to be able to perform Apparition. But let's be honest, you don't have a British registered wand. You know that you can do whatever you want on your vacations … no one will find out, probably. At this stage you are very loud, and your apparition needs a lot of time for concentration. You can't use this in combat or with another person yet, but you can clearly see the potential. Requires Charms Skill of A- & Constitution 4, DC: 150.
 
[X] Portus – Transfiguration. A Portkey Spell is used to transform an ordinary object into a Portkey, allowing the user to instantly transport to the destined location. The usage of this spell is strictly regulated by the Ministry of Magic due to the potential dangers of unauthorized teleportation. You can use this on other people. There is no range restriction for this spell, but you need a few minutes of preparation time ... but there are a few traps that you could set up with something like this. Who would expect a common object to teleport you away? Requires Transfiguration Skill of A- & Alchemy D+, DC: 150.

I like Portus more for ease of use in an emergency. Apparition is noted to require a lot of concentration, which in a fight or situation that we need to get out quickly we won't be able to spare. It also requires another point in Constitution that we don't currently have, and I don't think people will want to spare the action in these last two months if we want to be able to use it before we leave.
 
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