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East Africa 1930: An ORBAT Quest

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Jprice said:
I may be wrong but is one of the three investment points not supposed to be locked to the Carabinieri reform category.
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It should actually be 2 Investment points anywhere and 1 in Carbinieri Reform as you say.
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I want Donkeys and Mules

We should license the arasaka and go with the Japanese rifle. No point in rocking the boat there.
 
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I don't want to mess with more guns stuff until our testing is done, I think? Unless someone wants to start on machine gun testing. Effective use of automatic weaponry is definitely something our ORBAT is lacking atm.

Still want to put off animals stuff for closer to the end of the year with a goal to setting up a vet office then/during year 2 so that we can do what we do with animals well and then be done with it.

I think we should do a report on the Carabinieri and one of the six-month Carabinieri options - either the commissioning or the regional headquarters, which both seem like major organizational capacity improvements for further reforms - plus a third thing. Either the machine gun testing or the other six-month carabinieri reform, probably?
 
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Something like one of these?

[] Plan: Carabinieri Capacity (Prepare the Automatics)
-[] Weapon Testing: Machine Guns - The Ordnance Office will buy a handful of machine guns from around the world and test them until they break. Afterwards, they will make recommendations to the Defence Council on the topic of machine gun licensing. (6-Month Investment. Recommendations will be made at the end of this process.)
-[] Information Review: Carabinieri - Determine the state, readiness and mood of the Carabinieri. (3-Month Investment.)
-[ ] Government Action: Commissioning Officers - The Carabinieri lacks the ability to operate in small units. The Government, via the Defence Council, will commission a number of junior officers and promote long-serving carabinieri officers to senior positions. Companies will be reorganised into operational 'platoons.' (6-Month Investment.)

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[] Plan: Carabinieri Capacity (Prepare the Officers)
-[] Information Review: Carabinieri - Determine the state, readiness and mood of the Carabinieri. (3-Month Investment.)
-[] Organisational Reform: Regional Headquarters - The Carabinieri currently has a national headquarters based in Bur Gaabo. Regional HQ units would enable better management of the various units and duties of the force. (6-Month Investment.)
-[] Government Action: Commissioning Officers - The Carabinieri lacks the ability to operate in small units. The Government, via the Defence Council, will commission a number of junior officers and promote long-serving carabinieri officers to senior positions. Companies will be reorganised into operational 'platoons.' (6-Month Investment.)
 
Potato Anarchy said:
I don't want to mess with more guns stuff until our testing is done, I think? Unless someone wants to start on machine gun testing. Effective use of automatic weaponry is definitely something our ORBAT is lacking atm.

Still want to put off animals stuff for closer to the end of the year with a goal to setting up a vet office then/during year 2 so that we can do what we do with animals well and then be done with it.

I think we should do a report on the Carabinieri and one of the six-month Carabinieri options - either the commissioning or the regional headquarters, which both seem like major organizational capacity improvements for further reforms - plus a third thing. Either the machine gun testing or the other six-month carabinieri reform, probably?
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I agree with your first two points for the most part. However, while Information Review - Carabinieri is cheap, only taking 3 months, is it that valuable to us? I'd like to make deep changes to them, and figuring out what they're like right now isn't going to help when I expect that we'll be seeing massive turnover and expansion in the next ~2 years.

That said, I'd like to pick at least one 3-month option this turn. Next turn, we'll have one point being freed up, but I expect we'll want to almost immediately reapply that point towards starting domestic rifle production. If we don't take a 3-month option now, then it'll be a very boring turn for us. Taking a 3-month option (either Equine Acquisition or Information Review) is important for ensuring good "flow".

I think something along the lines of IR - Army, Commissioning Officers, and then maybe a write-in to create a permanent Carabinieri training structure as a branch of the Army Training Detachment would be a good idea?
 
I really want the info report pick. It means knowing the details of what's going on right now so we don't stumble into any problems backwards that we could have known about and I think it could open up new options for responding to them, instead of working only from what senior officers tell us and our own doctrinal plans.

Half the reason I didn't take one already, tbh, is that I misunderstood that section at first and thought the reports would get an effectiveness bonus once the Analytical Research Team finished, and was going to wait for it. But that's not actually what the ART does, so I want more information now, before we keep working half in the dark.
 
Potato Anarchy said:
[] Plan: Carabinieri Capacity (Prepare the Officers)
-[] Information Review: Carabinieri - Determine the state, readiness and mood of the Carabinieri. (3-Month Investment.)
-[] Organisational Reform: Regional Headquarters - The Carabinieri currently has a national headquarters based in Bur Gaabo. Regional HQ units would enable better management of the various units and duties of the force. (6-Month Investment.)
-[] Government Action: Commissioning Officers - The Carabinieri lacks the ability to operate in small units. The Government, via the Defence Council, will commission a number of junior officers and promote long-serving carabinieri officers to senior positions. Companies will be reorganised into operational 'platoons.' (6-Month Investment.)
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I like this second plan. Hits what we need and lays more ground work. I think weapons and horses can wait a bit longer while we finish the process of getting the Carabinieri reforms moving.

I'd also like to get the Army reports at some point - what does the civilian government want and how's the army looking?
 
I like the platoon level MPs thing a fair bit, but that'd be a 9-monther and I don't want to do that now. Also gives us some time to work on the details a bit.
 
[X] Plan: Carabinieri Capacity (Prepare the Officers)
-[X] Information Review: Carabinieri - Determine the state, readiness and mood of the Carabinieri. (3-Month Investment.)
-[X] Organisational Reform: Regional Headquarters - The Carabinieri currently has a national headquarters based in Bur Gaabo. Regional HQ units would enable better management of the various units and duties of the force. (6-Month Investment.)
-[X] Government Action: Commissioning Officers - The Carabinieri lacks the ability to operate in small units. The Government, via the Defence Council, will commission a number of junior officers and promote long-serving carabinieri officers to senior positions. Companies will be reorganised into operational 'platoons.' (6-Month Investment.)
 
[X] Plan: Carabinieri Capacity (Prepare the Officers)
-[X] Information Review: Carabinieri - Determine the state, readiness and mood of the Carabinieri. (3-Month Investment.)
-[X] Organisational Reform: Regional Headquarters - The Carabinieri currently has a national headquarters based in Bur Gaabo. Regional HQ units would enable better management of the various units and duties of the force. (6-Month Investment.)
-[X] Government Action: Commissioning Officers - The Carabinieri lacks the ability to operate in small units. The Government, via the Defence Council, will commission a number of junior officers and promote long-serving carabinieri officers to senior positions. Companies will be reorganised into operational 'platoons.' (6-Month Investment.)

Information is absolutely critical for an army. We need to know how the carabinieri are feeling and functioning. The gun testing has gone well so far too. The Arisaka is looking good so far. It's a fairly straight upgrade of our existing rifles. We'll see how the next round of testing goes before making any decisions of course.
 
[X] Plan: Logistics today weapons tomorrow
-[X] Equine Acquisition: Requisition Locally - Requisition local Borana horses from the cavalry and agriculture for breeding stock. (3-Month Investment. A breeding programme can begin within the year.)
-[X] Road Expansion: Somali Coast - Build some metalled roads connecting major towns and cities. (6-Month Investment. Construction will begin during this time.)
-[X] Government Action: Commissioning Officers - The Carabinieri lacks the ability to operate in small units. The Government, via the Defence Council, will commission a number of junior officers and promote long-serving carabinieri officers to senior positions. Companies will be reorganised into operational 'platoons.' (6-Month Investment.)

So this might not be a popular plan but i really think we need to think about the time cost. We have seen from the rail expansion that some actions need quite a bit of time before results can be seen. This will be the case with a breeding program and infrastructure. Therefore i think these actions should be taken first.
 
[X] Plan: Carabinieri Capacity (Prepare the Officers)
Having the carabinieri be regionalised is extremely useful for us
 
[X] Plan: Logistics today weapons tomorrow

I've been wanting roads and horses, and this doesn't leave out officers.
 
Horses I feel are a very poor idea to import into this environment they will outclassed soonish and aren't native to this environment for a good reason just because Europe has it doesn't mean its necessarily a good idea in anti-horse Africa.
 
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