Succubusekai: The Demoness Just Wanted To Stay With Her Friends! [Original-Ish] [Quest]

Changing my 1st level spell votes to bloc up with @Skip Sandwich 's similar list, since it looks like Speak with Animals isn't getting traction. I'm still doubtful about Sleep - no modifiers to the HP affected, no saving throws, so comparatively it might not be as good for us - but maybe it makes sense as a coverage thing, since Charm and Suggestion both cover the "remove a combatant on a failed save" type abilities and are calculating their DCs off of Charisma already.

[X] 1st Spells
-[X] Healing Word
-[X] Sleep
-[X] Dissonant Whispers
-[X] Identify

And repeating my background votes from earlier so they don't get dropped by this post.

[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Helen Garland, Knight of the Conclave of Communion, formerly the greatest knights of the Galactic Republic - now, those of us who remain hope to help the Resistance defeat the Empire of Mankind and its dark Chancellor, the Id-Sorcerer Cleon Xanull." (A Star Wars pastiche; if influences from Helen's past life crop up here, things could get spacetastic.)
[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Captain Helen Garland of the Transmission-Five, one of the spacefaring inter-civilizational Compact's ships under the Division of External Diplomacy, traveling the galaxy to meet new civilizations, discover new worlds, and sometimes handle other needs of the various governments that comprise the Compact. A pride of the Fleet, even with only half of the sixteen Duo Frames it's supposed to have! … Hope everyone else survived that encounter with the Tralbeast." (A Star Trek pastiche, except with mecha; influences would also lead to space, but also a heavily diplomacy-centered environment.)
[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Captain Helen Garland of Heromiller Academy! Smooth with a sword and smoother with my words, I learned under great heroines and worked to save and improve lives across my world, protecting the innocent even from my own King." (Captain Garland herself was apparently a heroic musketeer sort; but Heromiller Academy… Well, that name seems off doesn't it? On the bright side, this one may warm up to Senaz faster.)
[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Helen Garland of Earth, alternatively known as the solar superheroine, Sunray, member of the hero team Unity. Fought evil, did good, all of that." (From a comic-book superheroes Earth; used to saving days from supervillains more straightforwardly.)

[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Captain Helen Garland of Heromiller Academy! Smooth with a sword and smoother with my words, I learned under great heroines and worked to save and improve lives across my world, protecting the innocent even from my own King." (Captain Garland herself was apparently a heroic musketeer sort; but Heromiller Academy… Well, that name seems off doesn't it? On the bright side, this one may warm up to Senaz faster.)
[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Helen Garland, a Paladin of the Goddess of Solaria on a different world. I've fought my share of evils, afouling schemes of the God of Tyranny and Fate, Gargantor, and the Demon Lord Sanctifer." (Medium probability that the quest AFTER the first arc involves figures from Helen's past life.)

[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Helen Garland, a Paladin of the Goddess of Solaria on a different world. I've fought my share of evils, afouling schemes of the God of Tyranny and Fate, Gargantor, and the Demon Lord Sanctifer." (Medium probability that the quest AFTER the first arc involves figures from Helen's past life.)
[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Helen Garland, a Paladin of the Goddess of Solaria who operated across multiple worlds. I… 'Teamed up with' a rather unpleasant woman at a dark interdimensional university; thankfully, we broke it." (Solaria's DEFINITELY going to be an influence on the story, and there could be larger threats - or allies - showing up.)
[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Helen Garland, a Paladin of the Goddess of Solaria who operated across multiple worlds. I was more okay than I should be comfortable with serving… No, that's not right, is it…?" (... Something's deeply, deeply wrong here - things are going to explode later on.)
[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Captain Helen Garland of Heromiller Academy! Smooth with a sword and smoother with my words, I learned under great heroines and worked to save and improve lives across my world, protecting the innocent even from my own King." (Captain Garland herself was apparently a heroic musketeer sort; but Heromiller Academy… Well, that name seems off doesn't it? On the bright side, this one may warm up to Senaz faster.)

[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Helen Garland, Knight of the Conclave of Communion, formerly the greatest knights of the Galactic Republic - now, those of us who remain hope to help the Resistance defeat the Empire of Mankind and its dark Chancellor, the Id-Sorcerer Cleon Xanull." (A Star Wars pastiche; if influences from Helen's past life crop up here, things could get spacetastic.)
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[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Captain Helen Garland of the Transmission-Five, one of the spacefaring inter-civilizational Compact's ships under the Division of External Diplomacy, traveling the galaxy to meet new civilizations, discover new worlds, and sometimes handle other needs of the various governments that comprise the Compact. A pride of the Fleet, even with only half of the sixteen Duo Frames it's supposed to have! … Hope everyone else survived that encounter with the Tralbeast." (A Star Trek pastiche, except with mecha; influences would also lead to space, but also a heavily diplomacy-centered environment.)

I will have my SRW.

Eventually. >.>

ShadowAngelBeta said:

I will have my SRW.

Eventually. >.>

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Well, to an extent.

I will be starting the TODOs this evening. Note that ideas from the other Helen takes are NOT locked out of possibilities related to future characters.

This time in gold: The goddess has at least one more champion, though when you will meet them is in question.

EDIT: First round of Aspects developed - feedback to be actively considered, of course. Remember, Aspects can go FOR or AGAINST you.
NPCs are not guaranteed to have detailed Aspects - they'll most commonly be associated with major influencers such as Reincarnated Heroes.

In addition, I have decided that Senaz will NOT start with a fly speed. She will gain it upon completing enough quests in the Keep on the Borderlands.

EDIT 2: Spell list built, and As this quest focuses on a rather small party, you may be able to gain additional spells - in particular, critical utility magics may be earnable through play. If you gain a spell as a reward or similar and already have it, you can swap in a spell from the same level.

EDIT 3: This is the point where there's enough to define Senaz's basic look. Given the anime-comedy tone, assume that practically or actually visually representing her equipment is entirely optional (doubly so because she doesn't need to wear the Leather Armor), and that she'd put visual appeal over practical concerns quite a bit. Which probably made it much easier for Helen to spot her.

Work on the third post will be starting after Helen's sheet is built.

@NekoIncardine
When looking for inspiration pics for Senaz's outfits/aesthetic, how anime/comic book are we talking? It's a pretty big range going from say Arcuid (Tsukihime/Melty Blood) to Yor Forger "mom outfit" (Spy×Familly) to Yor Forger "Assassin Dress" to Morrigan (Darkstalkers) "Technically fetish-wear but at least it covers everything" to Vampriella "it would be less lewd if she was naked"

Qoheleth said:

I'm still doubtful about Sleep - no modifiers to the HP affected, no saving throws, so comparatively it might not be as good for us - but maybe it makes sense as a coverage thing, since Charm and Suggestion both cover the "remove a combatant on a failed save" type abilities and are calculating their DCs off of Charisma already.

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Coverage and also that it's just a great low-level spell in general, gets a lot of usage at lower levels. I'd say of Sleep, CP, and Suggestion, Sleep is the best for neutralizing active combatants.

NekoIncardine said:

she'd put visual appeal over practical concerns quite a bit. Which probably made it much easier for Helen to spot her.

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Well now I'm definitely recommending Fate Morgan Le Fay as an outfit vibe, that's aesthetic appeal to the max. I do really like the idea of something like that, and also especially suggesting that Senaz's look take vibes from the various outfits of the Dancer class in Fire Emblem games. Their outfits (also FGO Mata Hari) give that dancer vibe of attractive and unarmored, big on appearances, and seemingly frail (although we're far from it). Plus it also fits in well with who we are and our level(s) in Bard.

Skip Sandwich said:

When looking for inspiration pics for Senaz's outfits/aesthetic, how anime/comic book are we talking? It's a pretty big range going from say Arcuid (Tsukihime/Melty Blood) to Yor Forger "mom outfit" (Spy×Familly) to Yor Forger "Assassin Dress" to Morrigan (Darkstalkers) "Technically fetish-wear but at least it covers everything" to Vampriella "it would be less lewd if she was naked"

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I'd say the broad range going from Yor's assassin dress to a bit past Morrigan would be the target. Something that'd show up on a highly-marketed light novel cover, kind of?

Ultimately, I'm hoping to commission original art for her, to be clear - so inspirations are the target consideration here.

Just read the latest story post, got excited because I recognized the names from @sun tzu 's Solaria's World, only to see that the vote's already closed. Darn it.

storysmith112358 said:

Just read the latest story post, got excited because I recognized the names from @sun tzu 's Solaria's World, only to see that the vote's already closed. Darn it.

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Hey, a Helen Garland is a Helen Garland.

storysmith112358 said:

Just read the latest story post, got excited because I recognized the names from @sun tzu 's Solaria's World, only to see that the vote's already closed. Darn it.

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How I wish you'd seen this a couple days earlier! But such it is.

I will say Solaria isn't descoped - there's a reason I specified she's NOT the Isekai Goddess.

[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Helen Garland, a Paladin of the Goddess of Solaria who operated across multiple worlds. I was more okay than I should be comfortable with serving… No, that's not right, is it…?" (... Something's deeply, deeply wrong here - things are going to explode later on.)

NekoIncardine said:

I'd say the broad range going from Yor's assassin dress to a bit past Morrigan would be the target. Something that'd show up on a highly-marketed light novel cover, kind of?

Ultimately, I'm hoping to commission original art for her, to be clear - so inspirations are the target consideration here.

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So, uhh, considering we're not on QQ (which I find a shame) are we pm-ing these to you or should we be posting them in thread?

I suppose we do have the Mature tag at least.

ShadowAngelBeta said:

So, uhh, considering we're not on QQ (which I find a shame) are we pm-ing these to you or should we be posting them in thread?

I suppose we do have the Mature tag at least.

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If you think it's pushing it, put it behind a cut, but yes there's a REASON for the mature tag. Senaz is shameless by default, but too far past what'd fly in a T or lower-end M rated game is out of what I'm seeking. I may actually have an idea seed developed but look forward to seeing people's thoughts.

chellewalker said:

[X] (PALADIN'S PAST) "... Helen Garland, a Paladin of the Goddess of Solaria who operated across multiple worlds. I was more okay than I should be comfortable with serving… No, that's not right, is it…?" (... Something's deeply, deeply wrong here - things are going to explode later on.)

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Sadly, the vote has closed, but as this one was third behind Regular Paladin Helen, I will be keeping ideas from it in mind later on.

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If you think it's pushing it, put it behind a cut, but yes there's a REASON for the mature tag. Senaz is shameless by default, but too far past what'd fly in a T or lower-end M rated game is out of what I'm seeking. I may actually have an idea seed developed but look forward to seeing people's thoughts.

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Nothing outright showing, but as it was put above, sometimes things are almost lewder than when they're outright naked.


Bluecher caught my eye when I saw the idea put forth a few hours ago.

Also the second one is official art, so its probably kosher.

I suppose I would also ask what you're picturing so far, cause my mind is flipping a bit through AL art, which only Bluecher so far has caught my eye, and Ritsuka, but if you're already building a different mental image of her then it'd be good to know.

I don't necessarily have a lot for Senaz's body, hair, or face yet, but for a few reasons, I have a specific idea for her outfit based on an existing Succubus OC of mine who I have arranged a custom ish design for.


Note that the character depicted is an existing OC And I have an idea for her in this quest - but she's already connected to the Red Queen who was referenced in the opener of this thread, so it's plausible this is a kind of "uniform" for her minions. Senaz may have a different outfit color palette and DEFINITELY a different face and some aspects of body structure.

Please note the outfit idea is NOT final.

NekoIncardine said:

I don't necessarily have a lot for Senaz's body, hair, or face yet, but for a few reasons, I have a specific idea for her outfit based on an existing Succubus OC of mine who I have arranged a custom ish design for.

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What do you like about her outfit? The body stocking? The see-through skirt/clothing? The gloves/boots?

Just trying to get a solid idea of what you like out of it.

ShadowAngelBeta said:

What do you like about her outfit? The body stocking? The see-through skirt/clothing? The gloves/boots?

Just trying to get a solid idea of what you like out of it.

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Well, most of it, since it was custom commed for me in the context of that character, honestly!

But looking at the second outfit in your previous post plus what you've shared in this one is inspiring thinking too.

I hope for a couple additional perspectives before I finalize this and possibly invest in an art comm on it, enough that the next post will not cover Senaz's look.

Red truth because a later next post will cover this of course.

Since I've mentioned it, here's Olivia for reference, the primary Dancer-class unit from Fire Emblem Awakening. I have no idea what the actual name is of the two hoops with cloth connecting them, but I really like it and I think it would workif it was to be a part of Senaz's look.

Although, we could also maybe take some influence from good ol' Tharja....

The style of the metal band around the middle finger on each hand connecting to the arm stockings really appeals to me, and she also has small metal bracelets of her own-could connect her and Olivia by using the smaller bracelets as being like the hoops of olivia's connector cloth thing?

I don't feel like we're a very cape kind of character, but I feel like these two and the various elements of their outfits provide a good idea of what's been on my mind.

Alternatively--you could still use the commission as a uniform, maybe Senaz transforms into the uniform all magical-girl-like for some of the more succubus-related activities?

One last one from me I think

NekoIncardine said:

There is also a non-vote component to today's post. You have most of Senaz's character sheet in place now - her Background ability is defined, along with her skill selections, tool selections, and equipment picks. However, you're free to encourage her to make a swap or two, or have bought an item or two with that stack of GP she has.

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Nobody seems to have made any gear suggestions yet. I propose that Senaz should also have a silk rope. Rope is an essential and versatile adventuring tool, and going for the silk variety in particular would minimize rope burns for more succubus-like applications.

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However, you're free to encourage her to make a swap or two, or have bought an item or two with that stack of GP she has.

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How much GP is that exactly? Can't find it listed anywhere and not sure how to look it up.

Qoheleth said:

How much GP is that exactly? Can't find it listed anywhere and not sure how to look it up.

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It's on the Equipment tab of Senaz's sheet, at the bottom, beneath the table. (For reference, if the silk rope suggestion is followed, that'd eat 10 gp.)

EDIT: If you're having a hard time finding said sheet, it's under the first spoiler button in this post.