Age of Ice and Blood: A Pathfinder System Heroic Fantasy Quest

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Scouting is dangerous, but a seagull or some other locally appropriate bird is going to be commonplace and very difficult to pick out among all of the other birds flying around. Hell, just by being Tiny in size, he'll be getting a +8 Stealth bonus. Also, as a Druid, Ohun has various spells he can use to augment himself, increasing his Stealth bonus, enhancing his flight speed, magnifying his senses, etc, on top of other useful spells he could prepare for the occasion, such as Lay of the Land.

We also really don't want to go into this situation blindly. The more information we have, the better off we'll be, IMO.

[X] Scout, as dangerous as it might be for him it would be more perilous yet to sail or march into an ambush
 
Are we assuming that they would have only merely mundane senses by which they might detect him?
There really aren't any supernatural senses that can extend that far. Just staying several hundred feet in the air makes him pretty much immune to anything that could detect him as anything other than a bird. And if he uses a bird form with better than average visual acuity and prepares a couple of spell to further enhance his senses, he could be able to see quite clearly from very far away, well out of range of any spell or other ranged attack.
 
[X] Scout, as dangerous as it might be for him it would be more perilous yet to sail or march into an ambush


- i really hope Ohun will not do anything stupid like fly low to check the insides of a castle to overhear conversation and some such
 
So this next target is actually the capital?

[X] A landward approach, you have no quarrel with ships, but with the city and whoever might style themselves their master

Taking city and throne will propably get the fleet to surrender, or at least disperse.
Nobody likes to siege a city, nevermind a palace as defensible as the one in Noromo.

Spending time on scouting now could be time that allows the men on the ships to reinforce the city.
 
@DragonParadox , what is Roland's opinion on cautious of Ohun? Will old druid scout from above, or hurt from the Ansefu's death is to fresh, and he could attempt to perform some unwary actions?

It seems that this question is grammatically incorrect. Sorry.
 
@DragonParadox , what is Roland's opinion on cautious of Ohun? Will old druid scout from above, or hurt from the Ansefu's death is to fresh, and he could attempt to perform some unwary actions?

It seems that this question is grammatically incorrect. Sorry.

Keeping in mind that you do not know him that well, and you have met him sporadically outside the current campaign it is Roland's judgement that he will err more on the side of finding out more than preserving his own life. This is a man driven by both religious obligation and and the need for vengeance.

*glances up*

As I wrote that I realized that it might be taken to mean Ohun is some kind of death seeker, he is not, but his first priority will not in Roland's estimation be preserving his own life at all costs. Basically he is not a war leader as far as you know and he might not have the coherency of the army first in his mind. Magic or not the very idea of sending your leader out to scout does not seem safe to Roland, but then he does not know that much about magic.
 
[X] A landward approach, you have no quarrel with ships, but with the city and whoever might style themselves their master
 
[X] A landward approach, you have no quarrel with ships, but with the city and whoever might style themselves their master
 
[X] A landward approach, you have no quarrel with ships, but with the city and whoever might style themselves their master
 
The vote is too close to call so I am leaving it up and doing an interlude.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Mar 23, 2022 at 11:45 AM, finished with 12 posts and 7 votes.

  • [X] A landward approach, you have no quarrel with ships, but with the city and whoever might style themselves their master
    [X] Scout, as dangerous as it might be for him it would be more perilous yet to sail or march into an ambush
 
[X] Scout, as dangerous as it might be for him it would be more perilous yet to sail or march into an ambush
 
Arc 12 interlude 8: What's in a Name
What's in a Name

Fifth Day of Elnu-Hamba (Elnu Descendent), 1349 A. L. (After Landfall)

Antonio hated waiting, he never had. As a boy he would run to the docks whenever there was any rumor of a Giustiniani docking, especially one from the east, he had a love of sweet fruit and strange trinkets and most of all for strange tales. It seemed fantastical to him that one could go so far over the water to lands where men spoke with twisted tongue and dressed in fantastical garb, bright and fanciful such that his mother, God rest her soul, would tsk behind her hand every time one of his uncles or elder cousins came and entertained her all too precocious son. She would have wanted him sent to the Church rather than off to the east to trade with as she put it 'foreign devils'. He had laughed then and hugged her, told her he would not change one whit from the journey.... he had been lying through his teeth.

The life of a captain on the far off trade ways was hardly monkish, he had lied cheated and stolen and if there was one Commandment he had not broken it had been the one about honoring his father and his mother, mostly for he distance. He had not been there at his father's bedside when he died and though by chance or Providence he had come to port in time to spend his last days at the side of his mother. It had been in one of the years when the Turks and the Greeks had been fighting fiercely, though that did not narrow it down too much. He recalled it as though he could see it before his mind's eye even now in the torchlight The dark bed, its heavy burgundy drapes drawn close as though the very light of the sun would burn the last of the light out of her eyes. She had made him promise that he would not get caught up in the battles of kings and princes.

What could he do? Antonio had promised, he had lied. No man could promise not to get tangled in the wars of the mighty, no more than one could promise not to get in the way of plague of famine.

Standing here, now under alien skies, looking onto the lights of a city that was more foreign than anything he has seen in his first thirty years of sailing he could not help but think of that day, of the fact that he had promised to join a mercenary company whose business was war as much as it was trade. There really were foreign devils in those walls, the sorts with horns and hooves perhaps.

You knew I was a liar since I stole those figs as a boy mama, he thought, wondering in a moment of strange fancy if the dead could hear the living in their minds or only when they spoke. At least I named the ship after you. The name was commonplace enough that he had never had to explain it to anyone and it had been many years since he had sailed with anyone who recalled the name of his mother of all things.

A vague sense of... not unease, but something akin to it swirled at the back of his mind, a familiar feeling like fingers lightly brushing against the inside of his head. Curiosity, he realized, that was what it was... and not his own. Antonio looked down at the grain of the wood under his fingers and under the flickering lantern light it seemed almost as if many eyes looked back from the knots in the grain.

"A mother is someone who carries you into the world," he tried to think at the ship, the way the otter-kin told him to do so that he might be heard more clearly. It felt at once uncanny to be explaining that to the ship he was a captain of and at the same time strangely... right like letting out a breath freely when he had been breathing in smoke below deck for too long. "She would not want me to go to war.. and here I am leading men in it."

"Time Turning... you not you..."


It took Antonio a long while to parse out what the ship's mind meant, he was not the young man who had made that promise. He could only nod, not expecting the conversation, such as it was to go any further. As far as he had been able to get out of Esha the spirit of the ships did not feel the passage of time as men did so it would pick up on some stray thought and try to make sense of it and then fall silent for days or weeks.

"Glad I named for good mother-person. I fight too."

The Marcella has pledged to fight somehow in the coming battle

OOC: Before you ask Antonio had no idea how the ship is planning to fight, especially if you guys go for a land battle.
 
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Aww, Marcella, you're the best ship! :)

And perhaps a secret practitioner of Ship-Fu?
 
I'd really prefer to go for the attack now, rather than risk the loss of yet another morale-bearing leader during scouting.
We've had two of those already, not sure the army can take more.

Aside from that, I almost wish we had come here without the army.
There are clearly rifts between our different foes, but we don't have time to exploit those as long as we have a loot-hungry army led by a bunch of different lords with us.

I guess infiltrating here during the winter would have been a risky but potentially very useful action. Then again, we are unfortunatly not subtle and don't yet have the magic to cover for it, unlike a certain dragon who used to scout out interesting locations in the guise of a merchant or sellsword with little attention drawn.
 
I'd really prefer to go for the attack now, rather than risk the loss of yet another morale-bearing leader during scouting.
We've had two of those already, not sure the army can take more.

Aside from that, I almost wish we had come here without the army.
There are clearly rifts between our different foes, but we don't have time to exploit those as long as we have a loot-hungry army led by a bunch of different lords with us.

I guess infiltrating here during the winter would have been a risky but potentially very useful action. Then again, we are unfortunatly not subtle and don't yet have the magic to cover for it, unlike a certain dragon who used to scout out interesting locations in the guise of a merchant or sellsword with little attention drawn.
I get what you're saying, but I really don't like the idea of attacking blindly. It's going to be hard enough even with a bare idea of prepared defenses and enemy forces gathered.
 
[x] A landward approach, you have no quarrel with ships, but with the city and whoever might style themselves their master
 
I'd really prefer to go for the attack now, rather than risk the loss of yet another morale-bearing leader during scouting.
We've had two of those already, not sure the army can take more.

Aside from that, I almost wish we had come here without the army.
There are clearly rifts between our different foes, but we don't have time to exploit those as long as we have a loot-hungry army led by a bunch of different lords with us.

I guess infiltrating here during the winter would have been a risky but potentially very useful action. Then again, we are unfortunatly not subtle and don't yet have the magic to cover for it, unlike a certain dragon who used to scout out interesting locations in the guise of a merchant or sellsword with little attention drawn.

Yeah, you guys are kind of lacking on the rogue front. Might be something you want to spec Antonio into eventually. I do not think Roland has room in his build for it and while you might be able to cover for it with Esha's magic a little there are limits to how much those spells will last with low CL. You might be able to spec one of the otter-kin into it, but they would be limited to hiding rather than more social stealth as they are you know talking otters
 
Yeah, you guys are kind of lacking on the rogue front. Might be something you want to spec Antonio into eventually. I do not think Roland has room in his build for it and while you might be able to cover for it with Esha's magic a little there are limits to how much those spells will last with low CL. You might be able to spec one of the otter-kin into it, but they would be limited to hiding rather than more social stealth as they are you know talking otters
*Innocence
*Glibness
*Air of Nobility

"How dare you insult Sir Otfried with your baseless accusations!"
 
*looks at plans for the fight in the capital*

Yeah, there is no way I am doing those justice at this hour. I'm sorry guys, but I am still in the 1-2 updates stage at this point. I am clawing back a bit more of my time, but not consistently so.

Good night all.... see you tomorrow probably with the attack judging from the vote.
 
I spontaneously decided to look at Siege of Damietta... and was surprised about chronology. Siege took more than a year (1218-1219), and crusader's defeat occured almost two years later (1221). It seems that Roland indeed was deeply shaken if he remebers about this years later. And also despite that we spent more than a year in this world, it's still less than timeframe of Fifth Crusade.
 
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