Age of Ice and Blood: A Pathfinder System Heroic Fantasy Quest
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Good night guys, see you tomorrow with otter training and regular old human training as well as the finishing touches to your new keep
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Just had a funny thought; what if Runs in Rain and his fellow Otter-kin end up with a bit of a reputation, the kind that get stories told and retold, exaggerated and distorted?
From there, the thought ended up with them being mistakenly called Razor Weasels and being feared as our deadly enforcers, knives in the night who do our dirty work.
Razor Weasel...has a bit of a ring to it, right?
Yes, the mind goes to strange places after a day of messing with spreadsheets and dealing with stupid people via entirely too many email exchanges.
From there, the thought ended up with them being mistakenly called Razor Weasels and being feared as our deadly enforcers, knives in the night who do our dirty work.
Razor Weasel...has a bit of a ring to it, right?
Yes, the mind goes to strange places after a day of messing with spreadsheets and dealing with stupid people via entirely too many email exchanges.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Aww, so cute...Brainstorming: Otter with Bat animal companion! Bats are neat animals. And they conveniently vary in size between the ones that can sit on a human shoulder like a piratical parrot, and the ones that can sit on an otter shoulder like a small piratical parrot.
There are bats large enough to serve as flying mounts for our Otter-kin. Actually, they're large enough for a few of them to ride on one.
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Aww, so cute...
There are bats large enough to serve as flying mounts for our Otter-kin. Actually, they're large enough for a few of them to ride on one.
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That will take some magic fir sure, the largest extinct bats of this period are no larger than modern bats. That said there is a much larger than the modern standard vampire bat out there, probably because of all the megafauna that is still alive in South America.
They would make not worse cooks than humans at the very least, though with their better sense of smell they might be a bit better. Only trouble is that taste might not translate as well between species.
I'm sure they'll learn. With some improvement they can be the mascot cooks so they can do this.
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Sure, a tavern is one of the things you can add to the stronghold.
- Location
- Germany
Are we not a bit far out for that?
Who'd walk several hours to get a meal?
If we were near some trade-route, or relevant street at all, things would be different, but as it is I don't think a tavern for more than our own employees would work, which might be good for morale, but not for income.
Who'd walk several hours to get a meal?
If we were near some trade-route, or relevant street at all, things would be different, but as it is I don't think a tavern for more than our own employees would work, which might be good for morale, but not for income.
So I was just doing the math on how much you would make out of tears to wine and even at half price you would make something silly like 50K gp/season, that is way way too much. Like there would be no reason to adventure, you guys can be wine barons so in the interest of making this balanced I am going to say that while Zaia can make the spell permanent and not 10 minutes/ level as RAW it comes at the cost of ten times less wine, so that would be an absolute maximum of 5K gp/season so long as he does noting beside make wine with his first level spells, which he is not going to have that much interest in, so call it 1250 gp per season (one spell every day so he can still use most of his magic for doing magic), it still adds up to a decent amount of passive revenue in the long run without being game-breaking
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Good to see that the tradition of the economy acting weirdly when intersecting with magics and class features due to the balancing of magics around adventuring and flavour, and not not cornering the local market and making a small fortune, is an old and storied tradition.
(Looking at you alchemy jug.)
(Looking at you alchemy jug.)
Fair enough, though would you then let us have 3000 gp per season when Zaia is level 4 and the base amount of liquid transformed by the spell is doubled to 2 cu. ft., and 4500 gp per season when Zaia is level 6 and the base amount of transformed liquid is 3 cu. ft.?
The math was wrong above and I edited it 5000/4 is 1250. That said yes at level four you would get 2500 and so forth as he advances in level.
You got time to develop your property further to make that a possibility later.
First customers to walk there would be the fisherman delivering the fish.
That should be helpful towards getting the land build up faster.
@DragonParadox I just realised something about the party owning land. In the future is it a possibility for one of your custom deities especially Ikomi to bestow a blessing in the land that can include pilgrims?
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- Location
- Pilipinas
That riding dog companion is a great idea! Plus if we build a kennel we can train hunting dogs, war dogs, even lap dogs!
Arc 11 Post 15: Trader Talk
Trader Talk
Thirty Third Day of Ikomi-hamba (Ikomi Descendant) 1348 A. L. (After Landfall)
By the time you are satisfied that the men fight no worse in the new armor than in the old one most of the season had already passed, and though the cold and wet had not relented one can at least hear from the edges of the wood the sound of the forest beginning to awaken from winter's slumber. Birds chirp and beasts scurry in the branches and all around you Wayfarer's Respite rises to something you can call a keep without shame. It is a simple thing but solid in the making, with good walls of local timber atop a stone foundation and a moat some twelve feet wide, sure to be a barrier to any would-be invader. Granted, for now, it is more the playground of Ripper and the otter-kin splashing about to the wonderment of the local workers, but to your eye it is fair to see just the same.
Net-users and Spearmen Men-at-Arms gain Medium Armor proficiency
For their part the Koire armsmen are now worth the name, and they are worth a drink of Zaia's Magian Wine as well. You find yourself laughing right along with most of your men and the sailors beside them when Antonio dramatically declares that this much praised wine used to be moat water not so long ago.
Koire Spearmen Complete Warrior training
A good jest and, like many of Antonio's schemes, also a shrewd way to get the word out about something he will be able to sell for good silver. Zaia had asked if it might not be worth keeping the secret back, given that even among the merry company of men who do not often get to enjoy a feast there were some looking at their cups in askance, but the captain had turned to him and, seeming much more sober than the prodigious amounts of drink he had put away himself would indicate, gave his accounting:
"Seven and a half gallons of wine, which is about how much you can make of sea water with one conjuring, would be worth about one hundred and thirty gold Icari sold in any tavern. Now of course this ain't a tavern and the wolves and bears are not much minded to buy it from us straight up, so cut the price in half, the tavernkeeper gets as good a profit as is if he keeps his mouth shut and a little less if he just tells them it's wine of the witch and not of the grape. Maybe he makes a bit more if he tells the truth and knows how to sell it, not my business, that's still something akin to fifty thousand Icari every season."
Hearing the words you choke on the aforementioned wine.
"Only if you want to be run out of town for selling them salt water seven hours after the deal is struck," Zaia snorts. "Tis harder by far to transmute water into wine evermore than it is to do it for the span of a single feast, only about a tenth I would say."
"Still five thousand gold per season makes for a fine feather in our cap," Antonio presses.
"And it makes me a goose plucker by trade," Zaia cuts him off acerbically. "I did not set my sights on the transmutation of matter so that I would might become a tavernkeeper, no matter how rich that might make me."
As Antonio opens his mouth to argue Esha speaks up unexpectedly: "A spell cast in the morning to make wine to market is power one does not have to call if noon, evening or night be stained in blood. Better that we make less profit and remain all prepared for battle if we are to sail to far off shores."
"Fair point," the captain sighs, putting his own cup down. "If there were less in the way of demons, beasts and ghouls about then I might argue harder, but..."
"In that world a man might find it harder to make wine of water," you finish, amused and wistful all at once.
Gain Passive Income: Magian Wine 1,250 gp/season (Scales with Zaia's level)
Zaia has -1 first level spell slot when he is not preparing for battle (when he is he will shift the casting about)
"What if we raised a tavern here? Then we could use the one that doesn't stay wine, right?" Antonio is nothing if not insistent on the scent of profit. "True, we are out of the way now, but Wayfarer's Respite will grow I'm sure. The Shore-Sworn could do with some cheap fine quality wine that is not served to them by sneering cityfolk."
Unlock project build a Tavern (will serve your men and the local fishermen)
What do you talk with next?
Final Action before Spring
[] Zaia has learned more of the local fey. The Tinker Court is drawn, it seems, to the diligent industry of mankind, thus Orinilu itself might be your passage into their domain.
[] Inge, as she tries to teach herself how to throw a knife
[] The strange owl, the thing has been following you for more than a moonturn by now. There has to be some reason for its strange behavior, see if you can discern it
[] Antonio as he goes to the market to pick up trade goods for the journey in the spring, perhaps you can do some buying or selling of your own
[] Esha, to learn the tongue of the city more thoroughly so as to stumble less over the words of Engur
[] Speak to Serik Priest of Ashinu about the curse upon your men
OOC: For all there was some number-crunching in the background I think this ended up as a solid little character piece. Hope you guys enjoy.
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He can turn any mostly water based liquid including non magical contaminants into wine. He could literally turn sewer run off into wine, though for the sake of convenience and of his already abused nose he mostly goes with plain water, salt or fresh as convenient.
I assume he's a Christian of the kind of Greek origin so the irony of being able to do that isn't lost on him.
@DragonParadox, why would they equip inferior armor instead of their chain shirts? AC is the same, +4, but Armored Coats have less max dex bonus and, more importantly, they have less speed, 20/15 compared to 30/20 for chain shirts.
Can the men still have their chain shirts?
- Location
- Pilipinas
When can we build a kennel and hire a houndmaster to train dogs for riding, war, hunting, guarding and other assorted purposes?
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