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[WH40K] - Colonizing A Peaceful Planet

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Red Bovine said:
In regards to the Dryad while the Imperium is largely xenophobic IIRC in canon there were indeed numerous sanctioned xeno with the Emperor himself allowing it. If we got this right the Dryads are able to remove corruption. That's fucking huge since it's one of the main issues in the Imperium with Chaos being one of mankind's greatest enemies. Guilliman himself is extremely pragmatic and to the point he was willing to ally with the Eldar.

Throw in that the Rift that split the galaxy happened that more than likely resorted in numerous corrupted worlds. I assume people understand the implications.

Also as noted we aren't sure if they are even sapient or only as smart as Sharkhounds.
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is the imperium we are talking about

more likely,the ''mercy'' of the imperium with this xenos will be cattle slavery and mass harvesting
 
We need to do a full study of these plant creatures. Think of the massive boom in medical tourism and industry we would get from domestication and sales!
 
[][Cultural Vote: Animation]
-[][Rank X] 2D Animation #2 (The Castle In The Sky)

For cultural votes I definitely think that Ghilbi style fits our planets themes. The themes of Ghilbi films mostly center around nature and it's beauty. It just fits perfectly for us in my opinion.

RaptorusMaximus said:
As for the Dryads, I'd say keep the name, and kick the option down the road for now. I'd like to see if we can figure out a way to live with this without having to risk getting the Ordo Xenos directly involved (cause you never know exactly what kind of Inquisitor you're gonna get) or at least be able to give them comprehensive data when we do give them a call.
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Yeah, rather we do our own research before even considered calling anyone else to deal with this directly. Because we really don't want inquisitors staying around our planet too long. What with their reputation of using excessive force as in there being too many instances where many inquisitors thought it was totally justified to nuke an entire world or even just a few of a worlds cities.

armentho said:
is the imperium we are talking about

more likely,the ''mercy'' of the imperium with this xenos will be cattle slavery and mass harvesting
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Despite W40ks habit of grimderp levels of dark there have been instances of them not going overboard with it and as noted there were sanctioned xenos even during the Crusades. Again we Gillman is around and is totally willing to work with the Eldar of all people. On top of that we do see xenos not get treated like shit with the likes of the Jokero.
 
Wait if they can take out corruption from someone, where does the corruption go? Do they eat it or something? Last thing we want is to start actively corrupting the plant life here.
 
cooldude888 said:
Wait if they can take out corruption from someone, where does the corruption go? Do they eat it or something? Last thing we want is to start actively corrupting the plant life here.
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I seem to recall that there are plants in real life that are able to clear pollution from the air by eating it. Could be that they can eat corruption and be fine since they are immune to it.
 
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[][Dryad Action Vote]
-[] We need more information; maybe we are overreacting. (-1 Morale, Locks 4 AaA Dice until Biosphere research Stage 3 is finished. Kick it down the road.)

YEAH THIS IS HUGE, we cannot afford to act wit no understanding methinks.
 
[][Dryad Action Vote]
-[] We need more information; maybe we are overreacting. (-1 Morale, Locks 4 AaA Dice until Biosphere research Stage 3 is finished. Kick it down the road.)

this does seem like the sensible motion here.
 
Red Bovine said:
On top of that we do see xenos not get treated like shit with the likes of the Jokero.
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To reaffirm we have not just the Jokero, but the Watchers In The Dark, Caryatids, the Rethari, Drahkenand and some Kroot bands all living if not in total peace with the imperium then in cooperation with imperials.
 
[x][Dryad Name Vote]
-[x] Sylvaneth

[x][Dryad Body Vote]
-[x] Guardian


[x][Dryad Action Vote]
-[x] We need more information; maybe we are overreacting. (-1 Morale, Locks 4 AaA Dice until Biosphere research Stage 3 is finished. Kick it down the road.)

[x][Rogue Trader]
-[x][Sell]
--[x][Food] (1 = 7 Money) Sell 30 (210)
--[x][Promethium] (1 = 4 Money) Sell 105 Promethium (420)
-[x][Buy]
--[x][People] (2 = 3 Money) Buy 20 People
--[x][Plasma Ioniser Parts] (97 Money for 500 Progress)
--[x][Optimized Capacitor STC] (75 Money for +23 Power and +15% Ioniser Power per Stage)
--[x][High-Speed Cogitator STC] (52 Money = High-Speed Cogitation Towers (+0/1/0/1/1/0/0 Dice))
--[x][Alloy Purity Optimization STC] (38 Money = +1 Alloy per Turn, +25% Alloys per BAC Stage)
--[x][Hardened Drill-Tips STC] (42 Money = +43 Metal per Turn, +7% per Turn Income from Mines for future Stages)
--[x][Improved Flak Armor STC] (67 Money = -1 Alloy per Turn for Equipment Manufactory (Stage 1))
--[x][Grox Breeding Herds] (39 Money = double per Turn Income for all Meat and Leather Factory Stages)

[x][Equipment Vote]
-[x] Micro-Beads

[x][Cultural Vote: Animation]
-[x][Rank 5] Traditional Animation (Tom And Jerry)
-[x][Rank 2] 2D Animation #5 (Gravity Falls)
-[x][Rank 4] 2D-3D Fusion #3 (Planetes)
-[x][Rank 1] 3D Animation #3 (Space Pirate Captain Harlock)
-[x][Rank 3] Stop Motion (Wallace And Gromit/Fantastic Mr.Fox)

[x][Militia Organization]
-[x][Age] 20-30 (-1 Morale)
-[X][Recruitment] Voluntary+Lottery Empty Spots (-1 Morale)
-[x][Size] 2x to Military Regiments (-2 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[x][Equipment] Lasguns+Flak Wests (-4 Metal per TurnxSize) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[x][Training] 4 Hours per Week (-1 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)

[x][Emergency Drafts]
-[x] Age 20-30 (-1 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)

[x][Militia Use]
-[x] Limited Civilian Offense (Limited Attacks To Protect Threatened Targets) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
 
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[x][Dryad Name Vote]
-[x] Sylvaneth

[x][Dryad Body Vote]
-[x] Puppet
-[x] Guardian
-[x] Soldier

[x][Dryad Action Vote]
-[x] We need more information; maybe we are overreacting. (-1 Morale, Locks 4 AaA Dice until Biosphere research Stage 3 is finished. Kick it down the road.)

[x][Rogue Trader]
-[x][Sell]
--[x][Food] (1 = 7 Money) Sell 30 (210)
--[x][Promethium] (1 = 4 Money) Sell 105 Promethium (420)
-[x][Buy]
--[x][People] (2 = 3 Money) Buy 20 People
--[x][Plasma Ioniser Parts] (97 Money for 500 Progress)
--[x][Optimized Capacitor STC] (75 Money for +23 Power and +15% Ioniser Power per Stage)
--[x][High-Speed Cogitator STC] (52 Money = High-Speed Cogitation Towers (+0/1/0/1/1/0/0 Dice))
--[x][Alloy Purity Optimization STC] (38 Money = +1 Alloy per Turn, +25% Alloys per BAC Stage)
--[x][Hardened Drill-Tips STC] (42 Money = +43 Metal per Turn, +7% per Turn Income from Mines for future Stages)
--[x][Improved Flak Armor STC] (67 Money = -1 Alloy per Turn for Equipment Manufactory (Stage 1))
--[x][Grox Breeding Herds] (39 Money = double per Turn Income for all Meat and Leather Factory Stages)

[x][Equipment Vote]
-[x] Micro-Beads

[x][Cultural Vote: Animation]
-[x][Rank X] Traditional Animation (Tom And Jerry)
-[x][Rank X] 2D Animation #5 (Gravity Falls)
-[x][Rank X] 2D-3D Fusion #3 (Planetes)
-[x][Rank X] 3D Animation #3 (Space Pirate Captain Harlock)
-[x][Rank X] Stop Motion (Wallace And Gromit/Fantastic Mr.Fox)

[x][Militia Organization]
-[x][Age] 20-30 (-1 Morale)
-[x][Recruitment] Voluntary
-[x][Size] 2x to Military Regiments (-2 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[x][Equipment] Lasguns+Flak Wests (-4 Metal per TurnxSize) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[x][Training] 4 Hours per Week (-1 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)

[x][Emergency Drafts]
-[x] Age 20-30 (-1 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)

[x][Militia Use]
-[x] Limited Civilian Offense (Limited Attacks To Protect Threatened Targets) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[x] Limited Military Use (Bolster Low-Priority Target Defenses) (-1 Morale)
 
[x][Dryad Name Vote]
-[x] Sylvaneth

[x][Dryad Body Vote]
-[X] Child

[x][Dryad Action Vote]
-[x] We need more information; maybe we are overreacting. (-1 Morale, Locks 4 AaA Dice until Biosphere research Stage 3 is finished. Kick it down the road.)

[x][Rogue Trader]
-[x][Sell]
--[x][Food] (1 = 7 Money) Sell 30 (210)
--[x][Promethium] (1 = 4 Money) Sell 105 Promethium (420)
-[x][Buy]
--[x][People] (2 = 3 Money) Buy 20 People
--[x][Plasma Ioniser Parts] (97 Money for 500 Progress)
--[x][Optimized Capacitor STC] (75 Money for +23 Power and +15% Ioniser Power per Stage)
--[x][High-Speed Cogitator STC] (52 Money = High-Speed Cogitation Towers (+0/1/0/1/1/0/0 Dice))
--[x][Alloy Purity Optimization STC] (38 Money = +1 Alloy per Turn, +25% Alloys per BAC Stage)
--[x][Hardened Drill-Tips STC] (42 Money = +43 Metal per Turn, +7% per Turn Income from Mines for future Stages)
--[x][Improved Flak Armor STC] (67 Money = -1 Alloy per Turn for Equipment Manufactory (Stage 1))
--[x][Grox Breeding Herds] (39 Money = double per Turn Income for all Meat and Leather Factory Stages)

[x][Equipment Vote]
-[x] Micro-Beads

[x][Cultural Vote: Animation]
-[x][Rank 2] Traditional Animation (Tom And Jerry)
-[x][Rank 1] 2D Animation #4 (The Prince Of Egypt)
-[x][Rank 4] 2D-3D Fusion #3 (Planetes)
-[x][Rank 3] Stop Motion (Wallace And Gromit/Fantastic Mr.Fox)
-[x][Rank 5] Motion Graphic (Kurzgesagt)

[x][Militia Organization]
-[x][Age] 20-30 (-1 Morale)
-[x][Recruitment] Voluntary
-[x][Size] 2x to Military Regiments (-2 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[x][Equipment] Lasguns+Flak Wests (-4 Metal per TurnxSize) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[x][Training] 4 Hours per Week (-1 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)

[x][Emergency Drafts]
-[x] Age 20-30 (-1 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)

[x][Militia Use]
-[x] Limited Civilian Offense (Limited Attacks To Protect Threatened Targets) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
 
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armentho said:
is the imperium we are talking about

more likely,the ''mercy'' of the imperium with this xenos will be cattle slavery and mass harvesting
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yeah, is the imperium we are talking about

the imperium that has canonically been able to call a ceasefire and cooperate with Orks against Tyranids who posed a greater threat

As the two forces had realised this, their long-term enmity had begun to express itself as brash competition. Where humans held trenches next to the xenos, kill tallies were kept on tall wooden boards, while in Ferghal's Wood, where the aliens' exotic artillery had been pooled with Imperial batteries, the bombardiers were engaged in constant one-upmanship over the reload speed, the accuracy, and even the volume of their guns. As far as Nestor was concerned, this was to be encouraged, as it gave his troops something to do other than imagine death beneath a swarm of writhing nightmares.
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The imperium is xenophobic because it's in a universe where the average xeno wants to kill them, but in that universe there's still enough distinction to note that some xenos are Horrificus, other xenos are Sanctioned. Canon may vary with your local GM, of course.
 
[x][Dryad Name Vote]
-[x] Sylvaneth

[x][Dryad Body Vote]
-[x] Puppet

[x][Dryad Action Vote]
-[x] We need more information; maybe we are overreacting. (-1 Morale, Locks 4 AaA Dice until Biosphere research Stage 3 is finished. Kick it down the road.)

[x][Rogue Trader]
-[x][Sell]
--[x][Food] (1 = 7 Money) Sell 30 (210)
--[x][Promethium] (1 = 4 Money) Sell 105 Promethium (420)
-[x][Buy]
--[x][People] (2 = 3 Money) Buy 20 People
--[x][Plasma Ioniser Parts] (97 Money for 500 Progress)
--[x][Optimized Capacitor STC] (75 Money for +23 Power and +15% Ioniser Power per Stage)
--[x][High-Speed Cogitator STC] (52 Money = High-Speed Cogitation Towers (+0/1/0/1/1/0/0 Dice))
--[x][Alloy Purity Optimization STC] (38 Money = +1 Alloy per Turn, +25% Alloys per BAC Stage)
--[x][Hardened Drill-Tips STC] (42 Money = +43 Metal per Turn, +7% per Turn Income from Mines for future Stages)
--[x][Improved Flak Armor STC] (67 Money = -1 Alloy per Turn for Equipment Manufactory (Stage 1))
--[x][Grox Breeding Herds] (39 Money = double per Turn Income for all Meat and Leather Factory Stages)

[x][Equipment Vote]
-[x] Micro-Beads

[x][Cultural Vote: Animation]
-[x][Rank 4] Traditional Animation (Tom And Jerry)
-[x][Rank 1] 2D Animation #5 (Gravity Falls)
-[x][Rank 5] 2D-3D Fusion #3 (Planetes)
-[x][Rank 2] 3D Animation #3 (Space Pirate Captain Harlock)
-[x][Rank 3] Stop Motion (Wallace And Gromit/Fantastic Mr.Fox)

[x][Militia Organization]
-[x][Age] 20-30 (-1 Morale)
-[x][Recruitment] Voluntary
-[x][Size] 2x to Military Regiments (-2 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[x][Equipment] Lasguns+Flak Wests (-4 Metal per TurnxSize) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[x][Training] 4 Hours per Week (-1 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)

[x][Emergency Drafts]
-[x] Age 20-30 (-1 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)

[x][Militia Use]
-[x] Limited Military Use (Bolster Low-Priority Target Defenses) (-1 Morale)
 
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[x][Militia Organization]
-[x][Age] 20-30 (-1 Morale)
-[X][Recruitment] Voluntary+Lottery Empty Spots (-1 Morale)
-[x][Size] 2x to Military Regiments (-2 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[x][Equipment] Lasguns+Flak Wests (-4 Metal per TurnxSize) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[x][Training] 4 Hours per Week (-1 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)

only thing I really disagree with the vote, and since we are at 16/10 morale, we can take the exta hit of morale from making sure our Militia is filled. (it will go down to 11(10 because from my understanding next turn it will become 10 if we are over), -4 morale from militia, -1 emergency drafts)

[x][Dryad Body Vote]
-[X] Child

[X][Dryad Action Vote]
-[X] We need more information; maybe we are overreacting. (-1 Morale, Locks 4 AaA Dice until Biosphere research Stage 3 is finished. Kick it down the road.)
 
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Dezron said:
[x][Dryad Body Vote]
-[x] Puppet
-[x] Guardian
-[x] Soldier
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Woltaire said:
[x][Dryad Body Vote]
-[x] Puppet
-[x] Guardian
-[x] Soldier
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Amilia said:
[x][Dryad Body Vote]
-[x] Puppet
-[x] Guardian
-[x] Soldier
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CrabTravelLLC said:
[x][Dryad Body Vote]
-[x] Puppet
-[x] Guardian
-[x] Soldier
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Please vote for only one body, as the Dryads were only described with one word.
Dezron said:
[x][Cultural Vote: Animation]
-[x][Rank X] Traditional Animation (Tom And Jerry)
-[x][Rank X] 2D Animation #5 (Gravity Falls)
-[x][Rank X] 2D-3D Fusion #3 (Planetes)
-[x][Rank X] 3D Animation #3 (Space Pirate Captain Harlock)
-[x][Rank X] Stop Motion (Wallace And Gromit/Fantastic Mr.Fox)
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Woltaire said:
[x][Cultural Vote: Animation]
-[x][Rank X] Traditional Animation (Tom And Jerry)
-[x][Rank X] 2D Animation #5 (Gravity Falls)
-[x][Rank X] 2D-3D Fusion #3 (Planetes)
-[x][Rank X] 3D Animation #3 (Space Pirate Captain Harlock)
-[x][Rank X] Stop Motion (Wallace And Gromit/Fantastic Mr.Fox)
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Amilia said:
x][Cultural Vote: Animation]
-[x][Rank X] Traditional Animation (Tom And Jerry)
-[x][Rank X] 2D Animation #4 (The Prince Of Egypt)
-[x][Rank X] 2D-3D Fusion #3 (Planetes)
-[x][Rank X] Stop Motion (Wallace And Gromit/Fantastic Mr.Fox)
-[x][Rank X] Motion Graphic (Kurzgesagt)
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CrabTravelLLC said:
[x][Cultural Vote: Animation]
-[x][Rank X] Traditional Animation (Tom And Jerry)
-[x][Rank X] 2D Animation #5 (Gravity Falls)
-[x][Rank X] 2D-3D Fusion #3 (Planetes)
-[x][Rank X] 3D Animation #3 (Space Pirate Captain Harlock)
-[x][Rank X] Stop Motion (Wallace And Gromit/Fantastic Mr.Fox)
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Also, include a ranking into your vote to indicate which style is the most liked/loved.
 
[X][Dryad Name Vote]
-[X] Sylvaneth

[X][Dryad Body Vote]
-[X] Guardian

[X][Dryad Action Vote]
-[X] We need more information; maybe we are overreacting. (-1 Morale, Locks 4 AaA Dice until Biosphere research Stage 3 is finished. Kick it down the road.)

[X][Rogue Trader]
-[X][Sell]
--[X][Food] (1 = 7 Money) Sell 30 (210)
--[X][Promethium] (1 = 4 Money) Sell 105 Promethium (420)
-[X][Buy]
--[X][People] (2 = 3 Money) Buy 20 People
--[X][Plasma Ioniser Parts] (97 Money for 500 Progress)
--[X][Optimized Capacitor STC] (75 Money for +23 Power and +15% Ioniser Power per Stage)
--[X][High-Speed Cogitator STC] (52 Money = High-Speed Cogitation Towers (+0/1/0/1/1/0/0 Dice))
--[X][Alloy Purity Optimization STC] (38 Money = +1 Alloy per Turn, +25% Alloys per BAC Stage)
--[X][Hardened Drill-Tips STC] (42 Money = +43 Metal per Turn, +7% per Turn Income from Mines for future Stages)
--[X][Improved Flak Armor STC] (67 Money = -1 Alloy per Turn for Equipment Manufactory (Stage 1))
--[X][Grox Breeding Herds] (39 Money = double per Turn Income for all Meat and Leather Factory Stages)

[X][Equipment Vote]
-[X] Micro-Beads

[X][Cultural Vote: Animation]
-[X][Rank 1] 2D Animation #2 (The Castle In The Sky)
-[X][Rank 5] 2D-3D Fusion #2 (Titan A.E.)
-[X][Rank 4] 3D Animation #2 (9)
-[X][Rank 2] Stop Motion (Wallace And Gromit/Fantastic Mr.Fox)
-[X][Rank 3] Cut-Out Animation (Archer)

[X][Militia Organization]
-[X][Age] 20-30 (-1 Morale)
-[X][Recruitment] Voluntary+Lottery Empty Spots (-1 Morale)
-[X][Size] 2x to Military Regiments (-2 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[X][Equipment] Lasguns+Flak Wests (-4 Metal per TurnxSize) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[X][Training] 4 Hours per Week (-1 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)

[X][Emergency Drafts]
-[X] Age 20-30 (-1 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)

[X][Militia Use]
-[X] Limited Civilian Offense (Limited Attacks To Protect Threatened Targets) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
 
[X][Dryad Name Vote]
-[X] Sylvaneth

[X][Dryad Body Vote]
-[X] Child

[X][Dryad Action Vote]
-[X] We need more information; maybe we are overreacting. (-1 Morale, Locks 4 AaA Dice until Biosphere research Stage 3 is finished. Kick it down the road.)

[X][Rogue Trader]
-[X][Sell]
--[X][Food] (1 = 7 Money) Sell 30 (210)
--[X][Promethium] (1 = 4 Money) Sell 105 Promethium (420)
-[X][Buy]
--[X][People] (2 = 3 Money) Buy 20 People
--[X][Plasma Ioniser Parts] (97 Money for 500 Progress)
--[X][Optimized Capacitor STC] (75 Money for +23 Power and +15% Ioniser Power per Stage)
--[X][High-Speed Cogitator STC] (52 Money = High-Speed Cogitation Towers (+0/1/0/1/1/0/0 Dice))
--[X][Alloy Purity Optimization STC] (38 Money = +1 Alloy per Turn, +25% Alloys per BAC Stage)
--[X][Hardened Drill-Tips STC] (42 Money = +43 Metal per Turn, +7% per Turn Income from Mines for future Stages)
--[X][Improved Flak Armor STC] (67 Money = -1 Alloy per Turn for Equipment Manufactory (Stage 1))
--[X][Grox Breeding Herds] (39 Money = double per Turn Income for all Meat and Leather Factory Stages)

[X][Equipment Vote]
-[X] Micro-Beads

[X][Cultural Vote: Animation]
-[X][Rank 1] 2D Animation #2 (The Castle In The Sky)
-[X][Rank 5] 2D-3D Fusion #2 (Titan A.E.)
-[X][Rank 4] 3D Animation #2 (9)
-[X][Rank 2] Stop Motion (Wallace And Gromit/Fantastic Mr.Fox)
-[X][Rank 3] Cut-Out Animation (Archer)

[X][Militia Organization]
-[X][Age] 20-30 (-1 Morale)
-[X][Recruitment] Voluntary+Lottery Empty Spots (-1 Morale)
-[X][Size] 2x to Military Regiments (-2 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[X][Equipment] Lasguns+Flak Wests (-4 Metal per TurnxSize) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
-[X][Training] 4 Hours per Week (-1 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)

[X][Emergency Drafts]
-[X] Age 20-30 (-1 Morale) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)

[X][Militia Use]
-[X] Limited Civilian Offense (Limited Attacks To Protect Threatened Targets) - (Sleeping Leviathan Party Target)
 
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HeroCooky said:
It will affect their psychology and modus operandi, so yes.
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In that case think it would be best to not get the more menacing looking ones. If these things can cure corruption of all sorts thinking that it would be better to go with something like a child appearance. We've seen with the Jokero that things with non threatening appearances are more likely to lead to at least some tolerance among the Imperials and IIRC there is a psychology thing with humans in regards to creatures closer in appearance to us or our ancestors and even animals like cats or kittens are liked so well is due to how they remind people of infants if I remember right.

Honestly picking things like soldiers or similar seems like it would be counter productive in trying to get them accepted by the Imperium. We already have soldiers and warriors and don't really need xenos for that. And considering it affects how they operate and their psychology seems like it has more reason to have them act in a way that could be troublesome for us.

So I say the child appearance is likely the best chance to have them be accepted out of the bunch of options. Especially if it leads them to be seen as harmless and trigger the 'purge the xenos!' reaction.
 
Red Bovine said:
So I say the child appearance is likely the best chance to have them be accepted out of the bunch of options. Especially if it leads them to be seen as harmless and trigger the 'purge the xenos!' reaction.
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I find child option kinda creepy to be honest.

There is also this:
HeroCooky said:
It will affect their psychology and modus operandi, so yes.
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So I think that either Soldier or Guardian is our best option.
 
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