Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
So we're moving at reduced speed, right? Or are we at a near complete stop?
Age of Ice and Blood: A Pathfinder System Heroic Fantasy Quest
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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- Original Fantasy
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It is foggy and the wind is down so you are moving very slowly yes. You can row mind, but it is going to take some time to get rowers into position and the only ones you have with so many sailors dead are your men at arms
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
I think we should do this, but maybe not quite yet? If we withdraw, we can swing back around after building some speed and giving everyone a chance to get ready.
[X] Artemis1992
- Location
- Germany
I'm not sure.
We have no Bluff at all and if they attack while we turn the ship around we are a much easier target than now.
Travler66
Let her name echo in song!
- Location
- Beyond
@Artemis1992 I'm up for your plan, but I think it's wise if we seemingly withdraw then swing back around after building some speed.
We do have Bluff, granted it's very low. (Bluff: 1 (Courtly Knight) +3 (CHA) = 4)
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- Location
- Germany
Right, memory was wrong there.
Still, not sure which is the greater risk, bluff and make a turn or try it now?
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Is Bluff even relevant here, though? We're using Inge as a translator. If we tell her to let them know we're turning around, she'll be relaying our words truthfully.
Well so long as she believes you. She could sense what you are up to and then give it away unwitting when translating.
- Location
- Germany
I don't want to pay for our passage or anything like that though.
And a successful fight means loot.
Can we talk to the captain in a language Inge doesn't understand?
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
Negotiations that open with a threat to murder you and everyone on your boat seem doomed to fail.
Easily, you can speak French.
- Location
- Germany
[X] Plan Breakthrough V2
-[X] Ask the captain (in French) how fast he can turn the ship around and go to full speed after pretending to turn back now
-[X] Let him agree to the offer of retreat and give the commandos, as soon as we are a bit away turn around and enact the breakthrough
-[X] Furl the sails if the captain thinks they'de be of little use
-[X] Move forward as fast as oars can make it
-[X] The men keep in cover, avoid fair ranged exchanges with the people outnumbering you vastly
-[X] Keep the Men-at-Arms ready by the sides of the ship to gang up on anyone managing to climb on your ship, ensure they can't form a foothold.
-[X] Personally keep close to the person steering the ship (propably the captain?) and protect him from attacks, with Aid Another if they are ranged or by combat if someone should get close
@Goldfish
This way we use the propable smuggler's bluff instead of our own and we can take up full speed before ramming through the driftwood these people are riding on.
-[X] Ask the captain (in French) how fast he can turn the ship around and go to full speed after pretending to turn back now
-[X] Let him agree to the offer of retreat and give the commandos, as soon as we are a bit away turn around and enact the breakthrough
-[X] Furl the sails if the captain thinks they'de be of little use
-[X] Move forward as fast as oars can make it
-[X] The men keep in cover, avoid fair ranged exchanges with the people outnumbering you vastly
-[X] Keep the Men-at-Arms ready by the sides of the ship to gang up on anyone managing to climb on your ship, ensure they can't form a foothold.
-[X] Personally keep close to the person steering the ship (propably the captain?) and protect him from attacks, with Aid Another if they are ranged or by combat if someone should get close
@Goldfish
This way we use the propable smuggler's bluff instead of our own and we can take up full speed before ramming through the driftwood these people are riding on.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
You think it would be worth furling the sails, in case the canoe riders have some way to set them alight? According to DP, there isn't much wind to begin with and they'll probably make the ship even more visible in the fog.
- Location
- Germany
I mean you guys do not exactly have guns, thirteenth century remember? Just because they are using canoes does not mean you and your two dozen friends can take over their lands. This is you getting ambushed after trying to make a long ocean voyage for reasons that relate to previous plot and not any desire for conquest (to add to the lack of ability to do so).
Annatar
Lord of Gifts
- Location
- Pittsburgh
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They/Them
I think he meant more in the sense that we're basically going to have to colonize someone else's lands to make a home for ourself unless we the players vote for assimilation, which I very much doubt will happen. Although given we've got less than forty people with no chance of reinforcements unless we start trying to convert people, any colonial ambitions would be quashed very, very quickly.
You have 31 people all told (counting the man who might yet die after only the first arc) through the transition. Assimilation or at least accommodation in some form is inevitable. You are not going to be founding any states with that few people.
- Location
- Germany
I think there's a huge lack of intend to conquer or colonize anything.
Using what technology we have to its best advantage does not have any colonial connotactions.
- Location
- North Carolina
I think some of the issue is that the only solution proposed so far is a "shoot first and ask questions later" attitude instead of even trying to negotiate.
From the way I read it, they basically saw that something funky was going down and see us as the cause. They're not actively threatening us, just asking that we turn back because they don't want whatever is clinging to us near them. Canoes aren't exactly ocean-going vessels, so we're probably pretty close to their home.
This whole thing could probably be resolved by going "we just killed a necromancer and his small horde of the unquiet dead."
From the way I read it, they basically saw that something funky was going down and see us as the cause. They're not actively threatening us, just asking that we turn back because they don't want whatever is clinging to us near them. Canoes aren't exactly ocean-going vessels, so we're probably pretty close to their home.
This whole thing could probably be resolved by going "we just killed a necromancer and his small horde of the unquiet dead."
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Well the option to negotiate is right there, you guys can make a vote about it. For my part I would very much enjoy the debate.