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Oh wow Tywin is intense, I love it. Welcome back!
"You have all you need, Your Grace," the prisoner answered. "If you cannot proceed with what you have, perhaps you need me more than you imagined."
He reads kind of like a detective, albiet being tywin he treats it more as a thought exercise leaving the other to piece things together....Not sure what exactly Tywin is up to here, but I do NOT like it one bit.
So we're dealing with some kind of Westeros!Jack The Ripper here (obviously not the same MO, but maybe similar Motives/whatever)?What he told us is that the murderer isn't a noble, as the crimes seem to be more showing power, and the motive seems very irrational due to the placement. Also noteworthy is the one we already know being the person knows at least part of the mummification process.
Not quite. There seems to be a pattern of where the bodies end up that the watch missed due to not considering it may not be some sort of logical plot. It IS A MESSAGE, but not a group or person Aegon has considered due to relative irrelevance likely. And also, there is a distinct lack of taunting currently.So we're dealing with some kind of Westeros!Jack The Ripper here (obviously not the same MO, but maybe similar Motives/whatever)?
Happy beyond describing to be back.Hello, Hannibal Lecter! Eh, Tywin Lannister!
Also, damn glad to see you back, @Marlowe310811 , and I hope therapy works out for you.
EDIT: And I mean this literally. The entire scene gets me very much Silence of the Lambs flashbacks, and if one recalls who, exactly, is behind Buffalo Bill....
...Not sure what exactly Tywin is up to here, but I do NOT like it one bit.
He also knows how to thread a delicate needle here: he can't be useless or unhelpful, but being too helpful and just laying out "this is who you're looking for and the dates you haven't yet put together mean this" makes it too easy to dismiss him as being helpful, one time. This way, he's got Egg on a line, and if (as he expects is inevitable) Aegon has to come back for more clues/answers, he'll find himself in an even better position of advantage. And, of course, lacking any other means of passing time means that pitting his wits against Aegon's is far too tempting to refuse.He reads kind of like a detective, albiet being tywin he treats it more as a thought exercise leaving the other to piece things together.
Oh, some of our comrades from the Previous quest get a train of thought. i love it.The Black Cells were one part of Warrek's duties as the King's Justice that he genuinely despised. There were few inside these days, as the maesters had tended to those victims of the Screams who could be saved, and arrangements had been made for the rest. Viserys did not seem overly inclined to have people put into the infamous prison, and it was a practice that the City Watch had been adapting to, slowly but surely. It meant, though, that there were few buffers or other prisoners to tend to before he would have to go to mind the highborn prisoners.
Paxter is the Cunt, and I'm glad the fucker gets his just deserts by rotting in a cell.Warrek was born a common man, lived as a hedge knight, fought in armies and been a captive of others – he knew that the highborn pretensions of 'quiet dignity and grace' in captivity were horseshit, and that the experience changed everyone under the eyes of the gods, especially captivity such as the Black Cells. If any noble lord ever wanted to talk his ear off about their natural poise and gods-given station, he would make sure no ladies were present and then tell such a lord in great detail the behaviours of, and the measures he had needed to introduce because of, Paxter Fucking Redwyne. Slots in the walls for passing things to the inmate that could only open one side at a time, rules for restraining a prisoner while searching his cell, markings of how close to the outer wall to walk lest an inmate try to piss on you … Paxter Fucking Redwyne, Warrek snarled inside his head.
Viserys is very much a man who seeks to find amusement in his situations. Remember when the dude just broke a poor girl by talking.He was half-seriously contemplating a request to the king that the man's grave be so inscribed (I know he wants to keep the Reachers mollified … but he likes me more than them, and he'd probably find the idea hilarious, he thought) when his routine was interrupted by a single goldcloak appearing down the hall, paying the King's Justice no mind while moving towards the block where the last of the highborn prisoners was.
Glad to see Egg is acting more like us, but also a more... naive version of us who does not have super powers. He's just a regular teenager who needs answers.Only one man is in there," Warrek answered. "He stays isolated from the others. For their sake as much as his own."
"…it's who I think it is, isn't it."
Warrek nodded.
"I want to see him."
He stood very still. "Is that a wise decision, Your Grace?"
"Almost certainly not," Aegon breathed. "But wise decisions haven't gotten me what I need, so I'm giving the unwise a shake."
"And the king approves of this?"
The prince gave him a long look. "The king has not made any disapproval known to me."
Once again, I think Viserys, once he gets over being lied to, would approve.Warrek suppressed a groan at the familiar ploy. 'Explicit permission and lack of explicit forbiddance are of the same standing' was grounds he might have attempted to argue as a green squire or with a friend or a wife. He was less prepared to do so as an aging man, with Viserys. Just because the king would in all likelihood respect the audacity of whomever made the argument to him, that did not mean they would be easily forgiven.
I'm glad that our lads are compatent."I will accompany you," he told Aegon. "Before we go, there are rules for how we interact with any highborn held in here." At the prince's nod, he continued, "For your safety and theirs, we require that you do not touch or approach the bars of their cells. Do not pass anything to them that we have not pre-approved. If you are to pass them something, use the slot at the side of the cell – it cannot be opened at the same time from both ends. If they attempt to pass something unapproved to you, do not accept it. Can you work with these rules, Lord Commander?"
Is it wrong that Warrek's umping is a little worrying. At least on my thinking... We've been so careful, having confidence is a rather new feeling for our crew to have."Then I'm not worried about it." Common goldcloaks, even captains he might have given a hard time. Not the Lord Commander, though. Not this one. Placing his torch in a sconce by the door's frame, Warrek then withdrew his keys. A quick twist unlocked the door, and a tug brought them free and moved the door open.
Even Egg can get the Old Lion off guard... And it is glorious.The prince shook his head. "I'm here for some counsel."
It was the Old Lion's turn to blink in surprise. "You jape."
Egg, stop making so many threats you don't even have the authority to carry out. Tywin is V's Prisoner and if he gets even a minute outside, we'll never see him again."I don't imagine I would persuade you at all, Lord Tywin. You'll either help or you won't." A moment passed. "I do not idly flatter. There are perhaps half a dozen men in the world as clever as you, and none of them can help me right now."
Tywin stepped forward, almost to the grates of his cell. "And what will you do for me if I help you?"
"Not let you out."
So... Tyrion and Egg got the Line from Tywin... Ironic."The mind is a blade like any other; sharp or dull, well-tended or neglected. A mind needs work like a sword needs a whetstone, if it is to keep its edge." The prince met the Lion's cool gaze. "You have nothing but time on your hands, my lord. How else are you to keep your edge?"
I think Egg keeps his blades sharper then the Bolton's do Tywin, just in different ways. Ways even you do not understand."Do you keep your blades sharp, Prince Aegon?"
Aegon was no longer looking inside the cell. "Goodbye, Lord Tywin."
Tywin Lannister Everyone... even in a cage, he is a man who still is a brillient, basterd.It was then that Warrek let out a closely-held breath. "I make a point of searching prisoners' cells regularly, Your Grace, ensuring they don't fashion themselves a little dirk or find a loose stone to try and lash out with. I do my best to make it clear, especially to the highborn, that they hold no power here and that I more or less control their fates. Yet," he added, "every time I speak to that man, I am left feeling like I am the one unarmed and in a cage."
Jon, as someone who has had my life turned upside down a few times...Jon was unsure of how to feel about Prince Aegon. He felt unsure of a great deal these days. In his defence, Jon thought, uncertainty was only natural after having his entire world upended. Over the course of one evening, he had learned truths beyond his wildest imagination: learning that his father and half-siblings were in truth his uncle and cousins; that his true half-siblings were a long-lost prince and a long-dead princess; his other cousins were the princess called the Dame and the bloody king himself; the architect of both families' woes were his mother's intended and the uncle of little Jacen and Joy … it would have been a great deal to take in over the course of a year.
Jon, your father is not controlling and wishes to allow you to grow close. Sometimes someone just really wants to speak to someone.For most, anyhow, Jon mused. Prince Aegon had taken to the changes in his world and his history like Robb had taken to horses: with a quickness and an enthusiasm that seemed to worry his elders. Like his brother … cousin? … brother, Jon settled on firmly, Aegon was eager to go faster and farther than those same elders were comfortable with. He had already entreated Lord Eddard to include Jon in their meetings (infrequent as they were, with both the Prince and the Master of Laws being consumed by other work of late) and invited Jon to join him on hunts in the Kingswood or patrols of the city.
Jeez Jon, Ned is your father, even if he didn't help give birth to you... you should know that.In his heart, Jon did not really think that Lord Stark would order the prince to talk to him. But he also did not think that his father … Lord Stark, he tried to correct his mind, would spend half his life keeping secrets of the magnitude he did, or that he would raise banners against the king that he used to talk about like a brother. Perhaps Jon did not possess the skill of predicting what men might do, or perhaps he did not really know Lord Stark at all. Neither seemed good to him.
Glad to see Egg's Culture shock is still... occuringon studied him. "Why is it that you don't join in their caution? When I was a boy, stories of the Blackfyres were told to us almost as often as tales of snarks and grumkins." Jon was well familiar with others being slow to trust; distant as they grew, he could still remember the days when Lady Catelyn had looked at him with suspicion and barely-masked contempt. As children he and Robb could recite the tales of Daemon Blackfyre before they could remember the same for Mad Axe.
Aegon blinked. "I'm sorry, what and whats?"
"Snarks and grumkins," Jon answered.
"No, I heard you," Aegon said, "but what in seven hells are those?"
Dam Egg, please don't plant ideas in Jon's head. We don't need another hero trying to take our spotlight!A moment passed, and a sad look fell over the prince's eyes. "I spent most of my life certain I was alone. My sister, cousins, parents and grandparents all lay cold and dead and I was the only one left. Imagine it if you can, Jon, being the last of your family, the world having taken everything else and standing against you alone, with only a few strangers at your side you might or might not be able to trust. And then you learn that one of your blood yet lives. Would you not try to come to them, or bring them to you? Would you not desire them nearby, that you could have them in your life, hope to be in theirs? Is there a nicety you would not breach, a line you would not cross, an oath you would not break … is there anything you would not do, for your family?"
Egg, you are not the Rouge Prince... you are better... In some areas. Certainly in Wisdom."No disrespect was taken. But you aren't entirely right." The prince's words shook Jon from his musings. Aegon leaned on the ledge to look out the same opening Jon had watched him from, but rather than the courtyard below he looked up, at the Red Keep. "When I was raised by my guardians, I knew what they knew -- that I was the last of the Targaryens, born to be a king and a conqueror, destined to reclaim my rightful seat on the Iron Throne. Then Viserys came and I was none of those things anymore."
There was no bitterness in his tone, no resentment in his manner, only a wistfulness, and it confused Jon. "Your Grace has never seemed wanting of the throne," he observed.
"Well, I already draw comparisons enough to Prince Daemon; it would invite more of that and worse if I ever appeared to desire it. Which," he added, "I don't."
Damn... Jon, that actually hurt to read. Keep going.
Delirious Edd! Hey maybe you and Jon can be Bro's now, like you were at the Watch!Getting suckered into work he hadn't intended to do was becoming a defining trait for Eddison Tollett. As a boy his brothers were ever devising clever ways to trick him into doing chores for them, their father laughing and saying nothing to stop them. As a young Valeman he was conscripted into King Robert's service by threats of a war coming to his homelands if nothing were done, realising later he was trading the potential of a conflict later (if at all) and on home turf, for a certainty of battle immediately and on someone else's lands. As a surviving veteran with no greater crime to his name than serving under the wrong banners he got talked into joining the City Watch of King's Landing as a way to help the Vale out from under King Viserys' vengeful eye, and besides the service to the Vale he'd be doing, "women can't resist men in uniform," the fucker had lied full well knowing how reviled and distrusted the Watch was among the smallfolk at the time.
Shit always gets worse the more it piles up... I like the fact thatEdd keeps it light.Prince Aegon shook his head. "I'll not be acting on that today regardless, but I will keep you out of it. I haven't lived in this city long but I'm already discovering there's more reason than one why they are so fond of saying here that shit rolls downhill."
Redwyne is a cunt, and Warrek enjoys tormenting him..."I didn't think I would be permitted to keep them. Best to not cause Ser Warrek the unnecessary fuss of coming in here to take them from me. I understand Redwyne causes trouble enough for the both of us put together."
"His trouble isn't what I'm here for, my lord."
I don't think this will be predetermined Tywin."Possibly," the Old Lion answered. "I have thoughts and insights. Only time will tell if they are useful or not. And time is the thing in question here, isn't it, Lord Commander?" Edd looked from man to man, unsure of the meaning. Lannister apparently liked to talk, though, and more parts of the picture became clear to Edd. "Time until your man gets to work again, time until my trial commences. What can my time get me?"
"I can offer changes to your confinements, Lord Tywin, and I can speak to the king against having your head upon a spike. I cannot offer much else."
To Edd, the prisoner seemed dissatisfied. "I would like to keep my head altogether, Your Grace. And I would like to see the Hand before whatever predetermined sentence of mine is carried out."
Damn Egg, way to give yourself power in a situation where you did not have any. V would be proud."Make yourself useful to me, ser, and I will argue not just for keeping your head but for keeping it out of the cold as well," Aegon said.
Lord Tywin looked just as surprised as Edd felt. "I would have thought your roles reversed, Prince Aegon; you the zealot demanding blood for blood, and your uncle the one to connive and scheme and try to make use of me."
"The king can personally remember the crimes for which you are accused, I cannot. I care more for what you will do now."
I mean technically, this quest is about Viserys, Tywin, but yeah, it is.The Old Lion gave a sigh that spoke of decades of prolonged suffering. "Targaryens. You always think everything is about you."
Egg... Grinding his teeth?There came a sound from Aegon that Edd recognised, yet hadn't heard from the prince before. It was fully familiar to any man who had the misfortune of training under the Master of War's care. "What about this situation," Aegon stopped grinding his teeth as he indicated the cellblock, and his coming to it, "tells you that I don't care?"
a cute little read - non-canon for the moment, as "Selling Swords" was not taken under the cartel actions this turn, but in the future ... [shrugs innocently]
I like it. It will be added to the options!Torn between these two. The first is fittingly royal, the second is a reminder of our past.
[ ] Blood of Valyria
[ ] Errant Venture
A possible write in? Royal Vagabond
Various pairings (or triplings [?? is that the term I'm after here??] as the case may be) could also elicit other scenes or developments -- as a for-instance, if Beshka and Asha were among the company, scenes about their relationship would be included, or if Oberyn and Aegon were in the group, some talk about Elia could come out of that, or what future Aegon wants for himself and how Oberyn might fit into that. The companions aren't presented necessarily as magically-inclined types so much as they are people that Viserys might like to have around for extended, comparatively isolated time.Other Companions (choose two or three):
[ ] Arianne Martell is willing to leave the children with their wetnurses for a few days to travel with you.
[ ] Tyene Sand is Arianne's closest friend and surrogate sister, a sharp mind and a wise soul.
[ ] Daenerys Targaryen is enjoying the lull in the Dragonpit Trials, and she could join you on your trip or remain in King's Landing if you wished.
[ ] Willas Tyrell has the same lull in the Trials as Dany, though he is a newcomer to your personal company and will not be offended if you don't ask him.
[ ] Oberyn Martell has the most flexible of Small Council seats, and if you have him join you, he trusts Obara and Nymeria to act in his stead in King's Landing.
[ ] Garret of Saltpans has been operating from Driftmark, and could easily take a ferry to Dragonstone and join your company.
Dany and Oberyn are the only ones that stick out to me here.
I would have to come down on the opposing side of that, for a few reasons but chief among them that Stannis has never shared that story with you. It's a deeply personal one that, in canon, makes sense to tell Davos (probably the closest thing he ever had to a real friend) but not to tell Viserys in this timeline.Do you think that Stannis would be mad if we named the ship "Proudwing"? It's a good name for a ship as well as a bird; implies flying over the water as fast as a bird cuts through the sky.
Various pairings (or triplings [?? is that the term I'm after here??] as the case may be) could also elicit other scenes or developments -- as a for-instance, if Beshka and Asha were among the company, scenes about their relationship would be included, or if Oberyn and Aegon were in the group, some talk about Elia could come out of that, or what future Aegon wants for himself and how Oberyn might fit into that. The companions aren't presented necessarily as magically-inclined types so much as they are people that Viserys might like to have around for extended, comparatively isolated time.
I mean, I don't anticipate calling the vote quickly, but I'll say 8 hours for the moratorium then, if that will be easier.Oh... Willas and Oberyn would be an interesting combo then. Maybe Tyene and Garret would also have an interesting conversation?
Also, 12 hours from the post will be 2 in the morning for me. Is it alright if I post my vote before I go to bed?
Can we... Bring one of the Starks? Lord Snow?By the same token, Tyene is liable to cause all different kinds of tensions, depending on who else is on the boat.
[stage whispers] several people aren't options to accompany you because they're neck-deep in Aegon's arc.
I think Gerion would not approve, considering the Laughing lion was similar in color.
Well, it is already a blood-red wood