A Harry Potter Quest: He who was not
- Thread starter Tabula Rasa
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
[X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge – You do not think that his actions were justified. Even if you would not be alive without him and his wife, the cost was too large. The logical conclusion is easy, but you do feel conflicted. You remember how well they have always treated and cared for you. Who are you to judge their actions, when you have not walked their shoes?
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[X] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
[X] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
[X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge – You do not think that his actions were justified. Even if you would not be alive without him and his wife, the cost was too large. The logical conclusion is easy, but you do feel conflicted. You remember how well they have always treated and cared for you. Who are you to judge their actions, when you have not walked their shoes?
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Pretty sure the person above me is a sock account, they created an account and then 2 minutes later voted @Tabula Rasa, just so you know.
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The Staff is not too keen on accusations on the thread though if you want you can report it but that´s it...
For all we know he can be a lurker that decided to register to vote on a contentious vote...
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If it is, then it will soon be pretty obvious to the moderators after you report it...
However, you shouldn't accuse someone on a thread. The report button is made to avoid that.
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Yeah, I just thought it was weird since I'd never seen them before, and they just voted and did nothing more.
I've done that and I'll keep that in mind in the future, thanks! Just wanted to let the QM know and all that.
Yeah, it's just that we had this happen on a previous vote (the pact one), so I thought it might be happening again.
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[X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge – You do not think that his actions were justified. Even if you would not be alive without him and his wife, the cost was too large. The logical conclusion is easy, but you do feel conflicted. You remember how well they have always treated and cared for you. Who are you to judge their actions, when you have not walked their shoes?
[X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge
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Barring false memories, this is how I ended up making an SV account, I believe. It's not really fair to openly accuse someone else of fraud without due cause, especially when you can covertly accuse them pretty easily with the report button.
Dutch
Bored Spearman of the Wind
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Ah. Apologies. It was made in jest. Basically:
Me: People are confused about what these options actually mean.
You: The options seem pretty clear to me.
Someone: option 3 means X.
You: No option 3 means Y.
Me: Yes. No confusion to be seen here...
Look. I do not think Jacob will instantly turn into Voldemort if we vote X. However. I do think it is another potential step down that path. On a personal level I feel deeply disgusted by the thought about giving the Flamels a pass just because they were nice to us.
But besides that. Over the course of the debate on these options I've seen multiple people voting based on what they belief the option means and what it emphasizes. For example, does option three mean "This was heinous but I don't care and am happy about it" or "This was heinous but atleast I'm glad to be alive". Because there's a big difference there.
However. In the end it doesn't matter what we think these option mean. What matters is what Tabula Rasa says these options mean. Given that this vote is about the thoughts of our own character, thoughts we as players should know IC and OOC, we should be able to make an informed choice. This is different from spoiling a riddle or giving us OOC info about a different character. That doesn't mean telling us the result of these choices, mere telling us where the emphasis lies.
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True.
But remember that in the end this is a writing exercise above all else. Tabula Rasa is attempting to give us the information you mention entirely through the story-as-written, as an attempt to test/improve their writing skills.
That desire is more than important enough to supersede the small benefit on a single voting action that directly telling us Jacob's thoughts would give us as players.
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This is a good representation. Thank you for bringing the point across.
I faced quite the shitstorm with the last Basques Update and I took some time to think about what actually happened there, because there was a big discrepancy between what some readers thought and what I was thinking of the update.
In the end, the situation was my fault because I am the one that responsible to guide you guys through this story. It is challenging as a creative writing process, because while I have many good ideas, I have to throw many of them out the window depending on your decisions. Sometimes that forces me to adapt and learn new things or even come up with new and better ideas.
Sometimes it brings me into situations like that specific one, where I was expecting to have hit best marks in writing and was faced with only few people actually liking it.
Obviously there is a huge gap between that which is in my head, and what I can actually bring to the table because English is neither my strongest, nor even my second strongest language. But I identified the reason for the bad reception to be another. Basques story is meant to be read at once and without having to wait for more of the "actual" story. I still think that it is one of the better parts of the story and that those that didn't like it should give it another go, by only reading the memory chapters.
But I've learned that there is a difference between having an entire novel, where you can comfortably skip parts that bore you and a chapter based update, where there is only one instance of newer content and where you are forced to read that.
Where I do see the parallels at the moment and what I'm actually trying to state is the following: Don't try to only see the immediate. Yes, this is a contested vote and yes, it is a vote about how Jacob frames the world around him, but it is neither the first nor the last. Take a step back and look at his developments as a whole. Jacob has both flaws and strengths which make him unique. A single vote will neither make him good, nor bad all of a sudden. He is and has always been somewhere in between those.
So, simply decide on the one matter, without thinking too much about the future. You are the ghosts in his head, trying to help him in his introspection about this one specific man and Jacobs feelings regarding that person.
Looking at it like that, suddenly there is no bad or dangerous vote at hand. And while I'm at it: Thanks to the few people that always take the time out of their day to share their thoughts on each chapter. Thanks to the people that even quote parts of the story and share their feelings and insights.
You guys help me the most in learning how to correctly maneuver the storyline. I am always happy when I see such posts, even if I do not explicitly say it every time. Thank you!
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Incomplete votes count, right?
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[x] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
Not sure if that's a vote closed or just a current count, but it's close...
[x] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
[x] If nothing else, then I am grateful – Their action might have been heinous, but you would not be alive without it. You would not have learned of the wonders of the world, would not have had the possibility to discover them. You are glad that they did what they did.
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Ok, dropping the other vote
[X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge – You do not think that his actions were justified. Even if you would not be alive without him and his wife, the cost was too large. The logical conclusion is easy, but you do feel conflicted. You remember how well they have always treated and cared for you. Who are you to judge their actions, when you have not walked their shoes?
[X] In the end, I am the only one who I can judge – You do not think that his actions were justified. Even if you would not be alive without him and his wife, the cost was too large. The logical conclusion is easy, but you do feel conflicted. You remember how well they have always treated and cared for you. Who are you to judge their actions, when you have not walked their shoes?
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- He/Him/They
It is just a tally. With your vote judge is is on the lead by two.