Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Probably 'yes and no'. Yes, we can train the praxis. No, it isn't any easier. Still have to put in appropriate amounts of effort-concentration.
Eh, worth a go.
[X] Sightseeing
[X] Study the Blade x1
A Simple Transaction I
- Thread starter Rihaku
- Start date
- Original
[X] Sightseeing
[X] Study the Blade x1
40 picks lol. If we manage to get 18 Arete before pillars we get Ruling Ring and enjoy ++Progression picks. We can get Stranglethorn, Honing, Opal, and Iridescence and after that focus on Stat gain. Imagine 32 Picks of ++Progression Echo of the forebear - at least we can fix one of our issues with Stats. Mental Stability is a meme stat, I don't know why the voters fell for it.
Predicatable devil advocacy - Praxis is good only for blade x2 - we need RoB if we wish to stay ahead of the curve.
Gentle reminder to the thread that 2 Praxis points - 7 Arete, 4 Praxis points - 12 Arete and 7 Praxis points - 25 Arete.
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Lealope
Not yet invincible
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- She/Her
I think people are really, really overestimating the immediate utility of baseline Pillars. Keep in mind, it can take years to completely master its functions, we'd be lucky to manage even a single function. If Hunger feels he's truly becoming burned out, we might not be able to take advantage of the additional picks offered because he'll be focused entirely on the relaxation function. While he's someone of truly legendary discipline, even he has his limits, which is especially dangerous if our next Apocryphal proc is boosted beyond the norm and also has significant build up behind it.
[X] Sightseeing
[X] Study the Blade x1
[X] Study the Blade x1
Tyrant_Rayne
Probably Not Evil… Maybe
- Location
- Canada
[X] Sightseeing
[X] Study the Blade
With our current thread participation and omake power we may very well have enough Arete to get RoB or imperial regardless of how many picks we generate.
[X] Study the Blade
With our current thread participation and omake power we may very well have enough Arete to get RoB or imperial regardless of how many picks we generate.
We still have three procs worth of base Pillars now, however. So long we spend full 7 days chilling and stuff, then another 7 days getting two picks for Fisher King and final 7 days getting that Hunger Sated proc, it's fine by me.
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Lealope
Not yet invincible
- Pronouns
- She/Her
When an advancement says something like "takes years to master" I don't think assuming we can access three different functions (supernal chill, pick production, Curse Mitigation) is necessarily a safe bet. It's entirely possible we just pick one function, spend half the time unlocking it and then spending the other half using it. The only way to avoid that is purchasing the Pillars upgrades.
- Location
- Louisiana
[X] Sightseeing
[X] Study the Blade x1
I can dig this plan
[X] Study the Blade x1
I can dig this plan
Remember that we still need to do extraction(which Signs could deal with either directly or indirectly) and deal with issue of Apo targeting Temple society/Elixir Sovereigninity(which is solved by Regency).
Like, Adorie is not just value train, it does a lot to save us from complications in future.
Like, Adorie is not just value train, it does a lot to save us from complications in future.
I mean, that would make our initial plans for Pillars be incorrect anyway, and we'd still have two Signs worth of shit. Also, I would be all for getting both Pillars upgrades if we get opportunity to do so, they are really good.
- Location
- Pindorama
Meh, I don't really care for Sightseeing, and I think the single Blade pick is really bad value, especially compared to Research with the max synergy bonus. We will get more Praxis spend points in the future no matter where we are; while if we really are going to focus on leaving for the Human Sphere we basically won't see Adorie for the foreseeable future. Thus, getting the Signs here can also be said to have way higher opportunity value, and it doesn't spend a single point of Arete! It's too good to pass up.
Really, I just think Sightseeing plus Blade specifically doesn't address any of our problems, while the max synergy vote does address all of them, or at least tries to. It's much better to focus on our actual problems than to just grab stuff that sounds nice. And for me Sightseeing plus Blade definitely seems like a "sounds nice" thing.
Really, I just think Sightseeing plus Blade specifically doesn't address any of our problems, while the max synergy vote does address all of them, or at least tries to. It's much better to focus on our actual problems than to just grab stuff that sounds nice. And for me Sightseeing plus Blade definitely seems like a "sounds nice" thing.
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Zampano
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- Location
- Simping for DSB
Rihaku doesn't often let us re-litigate past votes, for one thing. The formula only works if the plot keeps moving forward.
But more importantly, the verb to get new Empyrean Signs is called "research." That implies that Adorie will be looking at history, pulling records of previous magic users, etc. That's not something that we can do from the inside of a time-stop dimension. We don't even know if manipulating the realm of evening will be difficult to learn! I really think that we need to work while we're stuck in the real world and then relax when we're safely in the Realm of Evening where curses are reduced to 1/3 power.
Zampano
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- Location
- Simping for DSB
It's much closer if you do some vote management.
And once the Relaxation blocs consolidate it's neck and neck. Looks like 18 to 17 if the Sightseeing + Mentor and Sightseeing + Praxis x1 blocs were to merge perfectly.
And once the Relaxation blocs consolidate it's neck and neck. Looks like 18 to 17 if the Sightseeing + Mentor and Sightseeing + Praxis x1 blocs were to merge perfectly.
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- Location
- Pindorama
Weirdly, I actually prefer the max relaxation vote to the vote in second place because at least that has a coherent objective and it's not just two nice things. I'm also pretty surprised there's no support for a Regency plus Artifact plan, since such a vote would actually take care of our commitments and give us a lead on mage extraction. I guess there's just no arguing with value.
Talace
It must be raining somewhere else!
I don't think they merge perfectly, though. I'm just voting for the leading Praxis option, and majorly prefer the max synergy option over Sightseeing + Mentor; would revert if it looks like the relax vote looks close to winning it all. I don't know if any voters share this preference, but I imagine the dissolution of the Praxis x3 block might indicate something to that effect.
I happen to find it a nice balance between banking Praxis picks and not wanting to die. We don't have to optimize towards a single goal for maximum gains, sometimes hedging our bets so we have a better starting position in Pillars is just as good.
