Hmmm... I think that the Decimation might also be a very compelling argumentative tool for us. How could Adorie conscience a life force drain on that scale in her kingdom, let alone anywhere in the world? Thus, the most moral contract is one that gives us the leeway to pursue mitigation before going back and blamming the Tyrant.

Depends on how many lives are being ended by the Lord Protector's reign! If reaving-bands slay thousands of innocents a day, that might be more harm than a fractional percentage of the populace's lifespan being slightly reduced, especially if the innocents have a greater than average amount of potential lifespan remaining! Of course, it may depend on Adorie's philosophy of care which could well conflict with Hunger's 'heroic universality.' Perhaps she would consider losses in her kingdom to be more relevant than losses outside, in which case there's an argument to be made for mitigating the Decimator - unless doing so would yield too much initiative to the Lord Protector and thus lower your chances of victory against him!
 
I would also prefer Hunger's meeting with the potential new companion to start with an serious negotiation. It would allow Hunger to learn important things about her, like how she negotiates etc. We might be letting her rule our kingdoms in the future in our steed, least we can do is properly test her!
 
I would also prefer Hunger's meeting with the potential new companion to start with an serious negotiation. It would allow Hunger to learn important things about her, like how she negotiates etc. We might be letting her rule our kingdoms in the future in our steed, least we can do is properly test her!

Wouldn't hiding behind Gisena be the more serious test, however?
 
Doesn't change the fact it's not greedy at all especially with us getting an chance to get Once and Future.

What's greedy is losing an chance at getting picks and OaF because we are afraid of Social combat against someone actually mostly aligned with us while hoping to get picks against the Moon Huntress target or Tyrant. I would rather take our next step with ADS or OaF + Winter King at hand. That's far safer.
Uhh, you might want to check your definition of greedy? Banking on getting another EFB from our confrontation with Adorie seems to fit pretty well. Risking future commitments just for the opportunity of getting Once and Future sooner seems pretty greedy to me anyway. It's a needless risk.

Just agree to her terms or let Gisena take her on, she's the one who made the reforms on our Kingdom anyway! She is much more knowledgeable about the matter at hand and much more competent at this negotiating stuff than us at the moment anyway!

Or we could delay our negotiations until we have Tower; that would also be pretty good. After the bevy of stats granted by it we'd be in a much better position for actually negotiating, and I don't think there's any chance we won't oppose him, so an agreement in this regard seems to matter little. I don't actually know why we'd want to make this a competition and not actually choose the option that gives the most success in that competition if not for the desire for picks. Something that can be acquired in far less exigent circumstances, especially considering we only need the one. It's not worth it, really.
 
Uhh, you might want to check your definition of greedy? Banking on getting another EFB from our confrontation with Adorie seems to fit pretty well. Risking future commitments just for the opportunity of getting Once and Future sooner seems pretty greedy to me anyway. It's a needless risk.

Just agree to her terms or let Gisena take her on, she's the one who made the reforms on our Kingdom anyway! She is much more knowledgeable about the matter at hand and much more competent at this negotiating stuff than us at the moment anyway!

Or we could delay our negotiations until we have Tower; that would also be pretty good. After the bevy of stats granted by it we'd be in a much better position for actually negotiating, and I don't think there's any chance we won't oppose him, so an agreement in this regard seems to matter little. I don't actually know why we'd want to make this a competition and not actually choose the option that gives the most success in that competition if not for the desire for picks. Something that can be acquired in far less exigent circumstances, especially considering we only need the one. It's not worth it, really.


This is literally the safest place we can get picks right now, an social combat with low stakes against someone mostly aligned with us, who is going to become an companion if we want? I don't think it gets safer than this. It's also explicitly stated that we can get picks here and if we use them for OaF, that just sounds like taking taking minimal risk for serious reward to me. Into the Breach is literally an godsent for those worried that Tears + Tower was too reckless!

Taking picks outside will put us in danger from The Tyrant, he has shown himself to be supremely competent, I wouldn't take chances outside lightly, when ambushes are an serious possiblity and we are in the middle of the enemy city. I would prefer having the power of Once and Future or ADS before we act.


Edit: Anyway, I am fine with both Cut Through and Into the Breach. Not giving the Tyrant time to act is an pretty good move.
 
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This post brainstorms some of the considerations that Adorie might bring up if she is not immediately eager to let Hunger take the Tears of Winter, absorb the Opalescent Tower, and then skip town.

The list is basically:
  • Murders are morally worse than fractional life-steal;
  • Genocide is morally worse than an equivalent amount of death spread out over multiple societies;
  • There are cultural costs for each minute of rule by the LP;
  • With the theft of the Tower, Hunger would be drawing from the same source of power as the LP, and would therefore have obligations to stop it from being misused;
  • Adorie's family's infrastructure is being used so she has a unique responsibility to stop his rampage;
  • Adorie's family is the rightful rulership of Nilfel so she has a unique responsibility to stop LP at any cost
  • Adorie might be afraid to die
  • Adorie might be afraid to cause her supporters to die
  • Adorie might only care about power
There are also some practical considerations:
  • Siding with Adorie and then disappearing gives the LP time to assemble minions and call in favors and set traps
  • Disappearing gives the LP time to run a smear campaign in the press
  • Disappearing gives the LP time to purge Royalists from the army, or declare open war

Hmmm... I think that the Decimation might also be a very compelling argumentative tool for us. How could Adorie conscience a life force drain on that scale in her kingdom, let alone anywhere in the world? Thus, the most moral contract is one that gives us the leeway to pursue mitigation before going back and blamming the Tyrant.
reaving-bands slay thousands of innocents a day, that might be more harm than a fractional percentage of the populace's lifespan being slightly reduced, especially if the innocents have a greater than average amount of potential lifespan remaining! Of course, it may depend on Adorie's philosophy of care which could well conflict with Hunger's 'heroic universality.' Perhaps she would consider losses in her kingdom to be more relevant than losses outside, in which case there's an argument to be made for mitigating the Decimator - unless doing so would yield too much initiative to the Lord Protector and thus lower your chances of victory against him!

There are a few considerations that may weigh heavily in Adorie's mind. I hesitate to resume the morality discussion, but Rihaku's point that the Decimator's Affliction targets a fractional percentage of remaining lifespan is a good one that should be expanded. There are actually a lot of moral arguments that Adorie might make:

Those killed by the Reavers have 100% of their remaining life-span stolen. Both Decimation and Murder result in fewer days lived by citizens of the Voyaging Realm. However, where the Decimator's Affliction siphons life energy from the end of a person's life, a murder victim's stolen days would otherwise have been healthy and happy and wholesome. Murders by Reaving-bands may cause echoing harm by interrupting family cycles: the grief of a murdered child outlived by their parents lingers in a way that a premature death during hospice might not.

The idea of social interruption is worth considering as well: Genocide is horrific at least partly because it targets and eradicates a unique way of life. Villages who are 'reaved' will have unique traditions interrupted and community identities stolen as they flee into the status of faceless refugees. Simply adding up the days of life lost to Reavers misses the cultural harm associated with the Lord Protector's imperialism. I will happily defend the moral statement that 'it would be wrong to allow the deaths of the last 200 members of a particular tribe in order to prevent one death experienced by 200 different tribes.'

Beyond the arguments about death-toll and Genocide, there are also lesser concerns that a consequentialist analysis must consider: are cultural works valuable? We have seen the Lord Protector's destruction of a historical library to increase his military production. How many cultural artifacts are being burned as fuel for the industrial revolution? How many years worth of accumulated art and literature should the Lord Protector be allowed to burn in order to avert the loss of a few days of life-force per person? Burning historical archives amounts to erasing the lives of past citizens: this is a harm that the ruler of a dynasty spanning millennia might find very pressing indeed.

Adorie might have more sympathetic reasons for prioritizing her own citizens over others. The existing infrastructure the Lord Protector is using to accomplish his aims was largely built by generations of Royalists. One could argue that Adorie has an obligation to end that harm above any other, because it is a harm that she is ultimately responsible for. This consideration might be particularly difficult for Hunger and Gisena to argue against because Hunger intends to draw power from the Tears of Winter and the Opalescent Tower itself. He would be the direct beneficiary of the same power structure that gave rise to the Lord Protector.

Pragmatically, Adorie herself is put into much more risk by allowing Hunger to depart. If she falls to the Lord Protector, then her own faction will likely be purged soon after. Adorie might be afraid to die, after spending decades locked in the Tower. Adorie might be very loyal to her remaining supporters, particularly, out of a sense of Noblesse Oblige. Living in the Tower would give her a lot of time to meditate on Gratitude for the resources available to Royalty...

Maybe Adorie isn't moved by morality at all. If we allow for the possibility that Adorie is not a consequentialist concerned with some universal ideal, then her negotiating position could be very unpalatable. It is conceivable that Adorie's beliefs about rulership just don't leave any room to care about people who aren't her subjects. This is a heartless ideology, but one that has guided nationalists IRL. The Myrellian Dynasty was not expansionist, but they did have a carefully funded watch posted on the walls of their territory. What that says about their policies for charitable giving is anyone's guess. Maybe she's just power hungry and won't be swayed by Hunger's moralizing attempt to get the Tears of Winter.


This is all speculation, moving from the most idealistic comparison of moral theory to the least sympathetic character character considerations. But there is a second axis that we have to consider: practical considerations of declaring war on the Lord Protector and then letting him respond.

The Lord Protector had a trap arranged for us that was dangerous enough to permanently main Hunger or kill one of our companions. Given knowledge about Hunger's set of abilities, the Lord Protector can arrange a much more pointed trap. While Hunger is away looking for a Huntress' Moon mitigation target, the LP might lock down his defenses and set further traps of the severity that we saw here in the Tower. Remember that the lion said that the LP "is owed many favors by the foremost entities of this Realm of Myth." Allowing time for the LP to marshal his allies and minions might make our job considerably harder.

Besides bracing his defense, the LP can also make offensive plays while Hunger is away. Adorie might warn about giving the LP time to mount a proper propaganda campaign. An effective insurgency will be way more difficult if the populace has been poisoned against us.

After all that abstract talk, it might come down to logistical planning. Adorie could persuade Hunger or Gisena that the LP will launch a conventional offensive play: if Lord Eruntael shelters Adorie then the LP will declare open war on the insurrectionists. Sparking a direct military confrontation would cripple any attempt at subtle or covert methods to depose the LP.

Adorie does not have to convince Hunger that the Decimator's Curse is irrelevant. She only has to impress on him the immediate concerns of deaths, ethnic cleansing, cultural purges, her responsibilities as a ruler, and the difficulty of successful rebellion against a prepared Lord Protector.

Since Adorie is the one with the Tears of Winter, she is the one who must ultimately be persuaded that the Decimator's Affliction is more pressing than reclaiming her throne.
 
[X] Into the Breach

While i recognize narrative concerns of this choice, picks are still too important. Tank loss from bad negotiation and obtain OaF(+ Honing/Iridescence) so we can summon better and beat Tyrant.

[X] Priority Two

Tough choice, but let's go to Human Sphere.
 
I wouldn't be too worried about combating Armaments directly with Hunger alone... that's what a fixed Versch is for! Getting to Armament-level outside the giant robot was always going to be a gradual process, but Hunger's certainly ahead of the curve. Still, given their access to Shrouds, Shroud-unique abilities, high Attributes and pinnacle-grade weapons technology, it may be worth either learning to pilot or looking up some buffs for Letrizia that will work through Totality! Perhaps a Refinement of Battle modality that can be applied to others? The Praxis offers countless opportunities as long as one puts in the effort to develop it...
 
[X] Hide Behind Gisena
[X] The Long Voyage

My brain definitely didn't process the last 7 pages at all.
But uhhhh anyways, no risk pls k thx ima sleep now.
 
Depends on how many lives are being ended by the Lord Protector's reign! If reaving-bands slay thousands of innocents a day, that might be more harm than a fractional percentage of the populace's lifespan being slightly reduced, especially if the innocents have a greater than average amount of potential lifespan remaining! Of course, it may depend on Adorie's philosophy of care which could well conflict with Hunger's 'heroic universality.' Perhaps she would consider losses in her kingdom to be more relevant than losses outside, in which case there's an argument to be made for mitigating the Decimator - unless doing so would yield too much initiative to the Lord Protector and thus lower your chances of victory against him!
Hold up,Do you mean Adorie will help us convince the thread to defeat Lord Protector first?

That pretty good argument. :p
 
[X] Hide Behind Gisena
[X] The Long Voyage

The vote is very close and now it is tied with only 12 hours remaining.

I'm genuinely torn between the negotiation vote options: typing out all those reasons for Adorie made me think Hunger might be convinced to put Decimation on hold. Meta-concerns might push him to do the moral thing but Rihaku can write sympathetic characters and could use this power against us!

Mostly I'm excited for plot development to start up again. We have a toolkit to deploy against the LP. That should contribute to some exciting twists as we learn more about the MR... maybe we'll find out why the blurbs for the Royalists and Protectorate both allowed Hunger to change sides. Later that might be a good topic for brainstorming: what revelations could turn us against the Royalists?

Also: I'm torn between the HS / VR choice. They are both exciting. We've Seen more of the VR so the familiarity makes it easier to imagine how the quest will go. I'm excited to see more societies in a bottle. The VR has a real twilight zone thing going on! On the other hand, HS would shake things up and put our magic users IN SPACE...
 
[X] The Long Voyage
[X] Into the Breach

This is honestly a difficult choice for me, and I might yet reconsider. It might be entirely possible that I'll regret this later on.
 
I'm genuinely torn between the negotiation vote options: typing out all those reasons for Adorie made me think Hunger might be convinced to put Decimation on hold. Meta-concerns might push him to do the moral thing but Rihaku can write sympathetic characters and could use this power against us!
With that said, Adorie's argument might be correct.

Decimation is very bad on this scale, but a powerful tyrant who knows a rebellion against his authority has occurred and has incentives to crush it while its mightiest warrior is off doing something else may be even worse.

This is a big part of why I didn't want a Tower vote to win in the first place; we're now faced with a "sadistic choice" to either expose billions of people to Decimator for at least a few days, or potentially let the Lord Protector go on a rampage in our absence.
 
With that said, Adorie's argument might be correct.
Yeah... I'm kind of agreeing here. Decimation mitigation isn't all that important if the Tyrant does turn out to be some hateful colonizer reaving machine.

Admittedly, he sounds like the type of guy to be a bit more intelligent with the way he does things, but unfathomable malice is pretty cut-and-dry about the consequences of letting him stay in power.

[X] Into the Breach
[X] Priority Two


Priority Two is quite compelling as well. If the quest chain for Aobaru takes too long, the Human Sphere might collapse before then. I suspect it is easier to conquer unified polities than marshalling a balkanized space empire, and the loss of life for letting a stray thread go untouched for too long is unconscionable.
 
I suspect The Republic will rule the human sphere and win in their industrial and ideology campaign.

Hunger need more charisma to reduce number of population that we need to kill and conquer territory.
 
[X] Priority Two
[X] Hide Behind Gisena

Hunger is a hero, but I'd actually rather see that side of him displayed in regaling Aobaru with Chosen One war stories instead of a negotiation with a princess so mentally taxing it could net us picks. Just let Gisena do it? Her chance of success is higher than ours, it forces her to interact with a peer she probably can't just 'flirty banter' against which would be interesting to see a new side of, and it's explicitly better for Hunger's mental health on the back of seeing some new patsy get shanghaied into taking up the responsibility that destroyed Hunger's life.


As for the VR vote, come on guys. We've been getting more and more blatant hints that something absolutely awful is going to happen if we don't bring Liz back really soon. She has a sick father. The Empire might have been betrayed by what were supposed to be non-aggressive treaty members. The balance of Armaments is out of wack, inviting challenge and war from the Republic. The Republic Extraction team is headed home with a mysterious high ranking mage captive against their will that we know OOC could confer an EFB by herself.


We shouldn't be grinding up in the Voyaging Realm because:
1) We can also train and grow in the Empire

2) While escalating in the Empire we can meaningfully effect the shape of events that are happening at the time

3) Getting in on the ground floor is exponentially more useful than popping in after the flow of history is already decided. Preventing a war is so so ridiculously easier than ending a war its comical

4) If we pal around in the Voyaging Realm for an inordinate amount of time we're probably eventually going to hear about some tragedy that's going to make Liz really want to go home as fast as she can (Father died, war broke out, etc) and the rush means we'll have missed out on the chance to stop bad things from happening as well as being unprepared to extract people

5) Extracting Voyaging Realm mages has repeatedly been mentioned as something we can't just do on the fly, and so it behooves us to figure out how to do it early before we end up in a rush and have to make the decision to leave behind party members or just tank multiple apocalypses since we have no time to dally as we rush to fix things in the space we neglected

6) It would give us time to properly research all of our three magic systems we now have

7) Lets us get ahead of the curve on identifying what we actually need for our build moving forward
 
As for the VR vote, come on guys. We've been getting more and more blatant hints that something absolutely awful is going to happen if we don't bring Liz back really soon. She has a sick father. The Empire might have been betrayed by what were supposed to be non-aggressive treaty members. The balance of Armaments is out of wack, inviting challenge and war from the Republic. The Republic Extraction team is headed home with a mysterious high ranking mage captive against their will that we know OOC could confer an EFB by herself.

But is the Empire any better than the Republic overall?
 
[] Into the Breach
[] The Long Voyage

Changed my mind. I am a bit worried about surprise Ring War though.

Edit:, ehhhh.
 
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I won't argue that the Human Sphere is a bad path, but I think that there are lots of benefits in the Voyaging Realm that cannot be easily replicated once we leave. And at least one blurb has said it will be hard for Hunger and Gisena to return once they are involved in HS plots.

So, here's a response to some of Eno's arguments. I agree with a lot of his points, but I think that there are equally persuasive arguments to be made for the Voyaging Realm!

We shouldn't be grinding up in the Voyaging Realm because:
1) We can also train and grow in the Empire
Can't disagree, but the kind of advancements allowed by endless fantasy wilderness is a lot different from the advancements available in a high tech civilization. At least part of my hesitation to leave the VR is the idea that we'll taking a knife to a gunfight. Once we have more Praxis abilities, the sword will feel less out of place in a setting where high tech guns are available for civilian use.

There's also a concern about the kind of growth that we can pursue in the HS vs the growth available in the VR. We've got a few good sources of Tyrant mitigation (Inherit the World, Triumphal Gleam, Tower Charisma) but there will be fewer thrones available for Hunger to claim. It is difficult to insist on unquestioning social deference in a government system that spans star systems. It is just unlikely, as a matter of statistics, that the person Hunger finds himself talking to will have the authority to bend the rules to accommodate his curse. The Doom of the Tyrant relegates us to either the center or the periphery of any new society.

Letrizia might be one way to get access to High Society but a Duchess isn't the same as a Queen, or an Empress...

2) While escalating in the Empire we can meaningfully effect the shape of events that are happening at the time

3) Getting in on the ground floor is exponentially more useful than popping in after the flow of history is already decided. Preventing a war is so so ridiculously easier than ending a war its comical[/quote]
At the risk of gaining +Heartlessness, there may be benefits to arriving in the midst of a war rather than during a period of "merely" heightened tensions. Hunger's goal is not to prevent a war, but to profit from it. The thread has moral qualms with trading lives for success, but our task requires that we act as the outside conqueror. If we arrive when war has already broken out, the moral fallout for provoking a war that costs millions of lives will land on other characters.

Does the thread have the collective will to provoke wars between unrelated polities just to soften them up for a sneak attack? If not, we might benefit by letting events kick into motion before bringing Hunger into the mix.


4) If we pal around in the Voyaging Realm for an inordinate amount of time we're probably eventually going to hear about some tragedy that's going to make Liz really want to go home as fast as she can (Father died, war broke out, etc) and the rush means we'll have missed out on the chance to stop bad things from happening as well as being unprepared to extract people
This is a good point. However, with Nightmare Flight the thrust is somewhat blunted. Letrizia can be delivered to Voyaging City pretty much at will (conditional on finding a source of scrying).

5) Extracting Voyaging Realm mages has repeatedly been mentioned as something we can't just do on the fly, and so it behooves us to figure out how to do it early before we end up in a rush and have to make the decision to leave behind party members or just tank multiple apocalypses since we have no time to dally as we rush to fix things in the space we neglected
As a counterpoint, Aobaru's connection to the Voyaging Realm might be the most promising lead for manipulating the mage-barrier that we have found so far. I would not object to a vote option that begins thinking about extracting mages, though.


6) It would give us time to properly research all of our three magic systems we now have
I've mentioned this in a separate discussion post, but Hunger's schedule is not nearly as busy as you suggest. Hunger's downtime could be spent on Graces, Praxis, Empyrean Signs, manually training Rank, or Hunting.

Graces: Hunger has a malus to research, and can outsource the task to Gisena if we ever vote to stay in one place for longer than a week.

Praxis: Hunger makes progress via effort, rather than time. A mid-battle powerup may result in just as many picks as a month of prolonged training.

Signs: These seem to exist regardless of whether the Thread gets access to them? My suspicion is that archaeology / history / research is the way to uncover more Signs. That seems like a job for Adorie and whatever library materials we can rescue from the Lord Protector.

Training Rank: This is sure to be slow, and Hunger's Rank is already going to out-strip his stats with the imminent purchase of OaF.

Hunting: Until we get Ruling Ring, and maybe even more so afterwards, the most effective way to increase our power level is through dangerous situations. In the Voyaging Realm, it is somewhat easy to find martial encounters with stakes: Hunger could die. There are also plenty of social encounters with stakes: Hunger cares about providing basic dignity to his subjects, and seems to demonstrate concern about the civil liberties of foreign subjects as well.

In the Human Sphere, hunting grounds are separated by outer space, which will be difficult to travel through should Decimator's Affliction ever go unmitigated. A spacefaring society is less likely to allow dangerous monsters to exist near major settlements, so Hunger will be forced to push deeper into the wilderness. Social encounters will have stakes with permanent ramifications: a misstep in one backwater planet might result in an arrest warrant that spreads across 1/3 of the galaxy. (This last bit is somewhat mitigated by Triumphal Gleam.)

7) Lets us get ahead of the curve on identifying what we actually need for our build moving forward
Won't object here.

However, there are some immediate picks that would be useful for any set of challenges in the Human Sphere. Ruling Ring, obviously, would boost Hunger's rate of growth. It would also have benefits of granting power over the mystery Ring bearer / Armament Pilot (?). Along similar lines, Philosopher's Wreath allows our companions to exceed their conceptual limits. Accumulating a collection of diverse magic users who are unbound by traditional limits on spellcasting might allow us a greater degree of flexibility in approaching problems when we do make our entrance to the Human Sphere.
 
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The Lion Before Winter
Now this is interesting: does the Winter connotation refer to the fact that we're on track to get Once and Future and thus the King of Winter title? Or is there a deeper Winter connection here given the aesthetic of tears?
They bid the vendor farewell and stepped into the passageway, the trellised door creaking ominously shut behind them. The passage was dim and poorly maintained, light skirling off the periphery of one's eyes like will-o-the-wisps, darting and shifting as they moved.
Vendor "Oh. They decided to go now. Huh. Convenient but huh, I assumed they would prepare more. Maybe get into some sort of stance that could defeat any danger first."
"What is that?" Letrizia complained, blinking her eyes shut to drown out the disorienting movement of the light.

"Spatial magic," Gisena explained quietly. "It's an artifact of how heavily space is compressed here. The builders must not have been very skilled, or they could have compensated for the effect!"
On one hand its interesting to think of how visual light refraction being an unpleasant experience is a result of how space folding interacts negatively with how light normally bounces off of the walls, skittering as it would in an annoying fashion.

On the other hand Gisena what's the point of being quiet if you're just going to end your sentence with an exclamation declaration?
"Or they simply didn't care about the help," Hunger said.
Somehow that doesn't seem right, if only because everyone and their dog has mythical magics up to the gills.

I can't help but wonder if there's an actual magic or mythical power in this realm if you make a secret passage way seem poorly maintained and badly lit, so it better fits the image of how its supposed to look out of a fairy tale. Everything in this whole kingdom is playing off of thematic reasoning after all, why not this?
"Come now, would you attribute so uncharitable a posture to the royal family of Mirellyian?" Gisena teased. "Are you not both royalty, bound by honor and common interest to defend each other's rights?"
Real talk Gisena, do you know how royalty of differing polities work?
This is important if you're going to be our Princess Regent!
Namely, Kings conquer neighboring kingdoms while taking advantage of their weaknesses all the time!
Sure kings maintain the structure that lets them be kings, but the specific rulers...?
"That doesn't obligate me to like them," he observed. "Case in point, my Princess Regent is fond of causing me frequent vexation."
Horrific thought: the medieval kingdoms of England and France having the same relationship Gisena and Hunger have. Would explain a lot of the regional conflicts...
"You could just not play along," Aobaru said helpfully. Gisena's eyes glowed faintly emerald in the shadow as Aobaru lit an illuminating flame. For a while they walked in silence.
Aobaru's best line in the quest so far. And he said it straight faced and 'helpfully' too! Oh how I regret that we didn't get King and Court.
No longer after they reached a fork in the path, the left side caved-in, the right blocked by a shimmering waterfall. Hunger glanced at Gisena, who stepped forth, already examining the rightwards juncture.

"It's... a domain," she frowned. "The territory of some supernatural creature, with wards of shielding and divination. The vendor didn't mention anything like this. Think it's a trap?"
Unless the servants were regularly expected to take magic waterfall showers every time they cleaned the service entrance. Which, come one. This isn't Gringotts. Though can you imagine the whiplash if it turned out Adorie was a Harry Potter style goblin all along when she was locked away in this tower? You expected a fair maiden who spun straw into gold, but it was me! Princess Rumplestiltskin!
"Possibly. And the other side?"

"Wholly mundane, except for the usual magics."
Man I'm going to be so annoying if there was this Astral Cat capable of shrugging off praxis style Cut Through blue and able to inflict wounds so deep that a being just a few steps below Accursed couldn't heal on one side, but on the other side the Lord Protector was relying on just literal rubble making the path inconvenient to defend against the left route.
"Halt," came a voice from the right, and Hunger felt a fell energy shiver down his spine.

A beast padded forward, a female lion with eyes of kaleidoscopic pink and grey, the sigil of an inverse E across her forehead. She stopped at the waterfall boundary and observed them with keen intent, the Pressure of her Astral presence like a curtain thrown across the world. The Forebear's Blade trembled greedily in his hand.
You know, is this one of the first times we'd had the Forebear's Blade anthromorphized like this. Evening Sky moves and trembles like Doctor Strange's cloak, the Ring is basically it's own sideways intelligence, but up until now we've just had the blade being a stoic presence like the Forebear.
A worthy opponent at last. Since he'd killed the Rotbeast it'd had nothing but scraps. The Doom of the Tyrant flared within him. He would not be commanded by this creature, this monstrous beast. Not now, and not ever.
And here we get hints of how badly Tyrant's Doom can mangle social interaction. I hadn't realized that he had taken 'Halt' as a trigger instead of the opening to communication until rereading it again.
Gisena stepped back politely, but Hunger pressed forward, blue of the Praxis already materializing across his blade's edge.

The creature took a step back. "Please. I do not wish to harm you. Were we to battle, neither of us would escape unscathed. In actuality I come bearing a gift for one of you."
Oh. Whoops, sorry for voting to pick the options that would have ended with your death, Astral Cat. Nothing personal, I just thought Runes of Mastery were cooler.
Hunger stopped, tide of the waterfall sheeting and humming over the edge of his blade, its supernal sharpness splitting the ward-magics down to their core.
Man, this image is just really cool to me. A sword so sharp that even standing perfectly still it's having a noticeable effect on the world as natural processes split before it.

Hey Rihaku, how many more steps of Cut Through until we can split atoms in the air at rest? Just a constant inconvenient low level nuclear explosion!
"The Lord Protector summoned me to intercept you," The creature said. "But I see now that our mutual opposition would be folly. So long as the Chosen One travels alongside you, our interests are aligned. I, too, would see this Realm restored to its former glories."

It stared at Aobaru. "Come forth, Chosen One. Allow me to take a look at you."

"Not too far forward," Hunger said casually. "Don't let it lunge at you."
"It won't kill you though. Liz or Aeria? Could die pretty easy. But not you my pupil, you were not a voting option."
"Chosen One? Me?" Aobaru said dumbly, coming to a halt half a handspan behind Hunger.

"The legacy of the Builders lives on within you," the lioness explained. "Only you can re-activate the control array located at Realm's center. Power beyond the uttermost imaginings of your presently-mortal mind, should you prove worthy to hold it. But you are not awakened yet... Your potential lies curiously dormant. The hour of destiny has not yet come for you. I could change that, awaken what slumbers within. It would be a gradual transition, and you may attract dangers beyond your personal capacity to handle, but your friend the Praehihr should keep you well in stead. He seems eager for a fight, regardless."
Guilty as charged, all knowing astral cat.
But come on, eventually one of the Foremost's servitors has to give us some credit for being a Praehihr right? It would be nice if we could eventually talk down someone with that status alone.
"That sounds pretty amazing," Aobaru said cautiously, "But how do we know that any of what you're saying is true? This... this is crazy. Why me?"

"An accident of circumstance," the lioness shrugged. "Or perhaps something deeper. I would have you awakened to your potential. That is the only price I request for the safe passage of your entire party to the Princess' Tower... and the information I bear on the Lord Protector himself."
Actually, a good question to ask might be "how would Aobaru have awakened his potential organically?"
Was that just a process of time, as hinted at when it says 'before his hour?'
Or is there some sort of ritual or accompanying Foremost weapon he was supposed to take up? And more importantly, can he still do it and gain even more benefit?
"I'm surprised at your latitude of action," Gisena commented. "He summoned you, but you wriggled very adroitly out of those bindings! Yet you don't resemble any of the Astral denizens I've met at all... I wonder where he got you from?"
Haha... something... something to be wary of now that we have Astral Summoning ourselves, I suppose.
"A place halfway between here and there," the lioness nodded, nudging the supernal blue of Hunger's blade-edge. Her muzzle came up fully against the cutting blue, and yet she was not cut.
Haha well. That would have gone badly.
Sure we would have eventually been able to win.
But just imagine Hunger's expression when he would have first tried to Cut Through in a combat setting and instead of doing so the Forebear's blade just bonks off of her fur.
It would be almost funny if the next second he wasn't going to get mauled/let Liz or Aeria die as a result of his own under estimation of Lord Protector and his summons.
His eyes widened. A being from somewhere along the gradient between this base reality and the true fundament beneath. Did it inhabit the same realm he'd ventured into to strike against the Rotbeast? What was the Lord Protector that he could call upon such a creature?
Stronger than us right now apparently. Let's aim to correct that!
"I'll do it," Aobaru said. "If it gets us past you without having to fight, and also gives us intel on this Lord Protector guy... it sounds like a good deal to me. What do I have to do?"
Oh huh, changed your mind a bit on the suitability of Lord Protector running this realm?
Eh, I guess it's simple pragmatism since we've already committed to this course of action.
"Nothing," said the lioness. "Simply stand there."

There was an instinct in him to halt this, to have the boy re-consider the precipitous course to which he'd agreed, but Hunger stilled himself. Much as he'd like to intervene, it was ultimately Aobaru's choice. That he personally had suffered from his stint as hero of destiny did not mean the boy was doomed to the same. Certainly not if he had anything to say about it.
This is honestly way more put together than I thought Hunger would be in the face of a boy becoming a Chosen One, responsibility that's explicitly before he's even supposed to bear it.
Good for Hunger. Let's reward him with more mental stability!
The lioness gently stalked forward and laid a paw against Aobaru's hand. There was a brief flare of magenta light and Aobaru gasped.
Now, it's time for the thread's favorite gameshow:
Thematically Relevant Color or Just Description Text!
Prizes are distributed if it turns out that magenta connects to the blue of praxis somehow, and nothing happens if it does not.
"Whoa. I- whoa..."

"Now then," the creature continued, "As I have turned wholly against my summoner, we have limited time before the terms of my conjuring result in my inevitable banishment. Your chief priority must be the defense of the Chosen One; with the forces arrayed against him you can scarce afford further distractions. I cannot see your full intentions but I assume you will not be deterred from your opposition of the Lord Protector. In your current state you have very little chance of opposing him directly."
Your priority maybe, Cat. Our number 2. I get that you want your petting zoo job back but we also have other, prior obligations that we already agreed to uphold.
She paused and trembled, cracks like splintering stone forming across her back. Through them peered a light of unearthly paleness, like the sun filtered through clouds.
Well now that doesn't sound pleasant at all. Poor shiver cat.
The lioness licked her lips and continued. "He is owed many favors by the foremost entities of this Realm of Myth. That said, you are a Praehihr and capable of progression beyond limit... look into the armamentarium of Mirellyian dynasty. They harbor artifacts that would work perfectly with your style of magic. The Tower itself is forged of the same material as your incomplete Cloak of Sky. Marshal your powers quickly and seek aid from the legions of House Eruntael. You may be sheltered against many divinations but your companions are not. The next entity he sends against you may lack my raw potency, but will be more finely-tailored to-"
Take note, everyone.

Even if the agreement was binding, Astral Cat was still able to betray her summoner and give no less than five pieces of actionable intelligence, each of which in character was new information to us and will help us take down the person who bound her.

Beware what we call up in our summoning, because even if we get an agreement we're happy with something on the scale of this level of information leak of our strengths and weaknesses could still happen. And we're not lucky enough to get away with just minimal harm if it does.
At last the lioness could continue no further, the speed of her disintegration hastening until with a thunderous crack the fissures overtook her entirely. Like pulverized stone she shattered, leaving only fragments and dust behind, and the waterfall receded steadily, become an intermittent dribble.
Interesting that a little of the water remains there are all, honestly. I wonder if we could bottle it? Use it as a summoning regent to bring back Astral Cat at a later date?

Are summoning regents even a thing, actually? Things to look into once we have the signs to do magic with.
"Well," Hunger blinked. "That was a lot to take in." They had underestimated both the speed and the resourcefulness of this Lord Protector. Had they been forced to fight, would he have won here?
Us, apparently, though at great cost. It's good that Hunger is actually reconsidering the threat profile here, just because we make bad decisions doesn't mean that Hunger can't learn from our mistakes!
"Whoa..." Aobaru said once more, before snapping out of his reverie. "That... was..."

"Care to share with the class?" Letrizia said archly.
Jealous Liz? Don't worry girl, we'll have your arc up next, okay?
He rubbed his brow. "I can't really describe it with words. She showed me a little bit of what the Voyaging Realm used to look like, millions of years ago. I think it - the section I saw - was some kind of amusement park."
And so all those jokes about a thrill park and Cursebearer Land have come home to roost. Somehow that doesn't even surprise me.
"An amusement park?" Aeira said slowly.

He shook his head. "I know how it sounds. But I don't mean that in a frivolous way. They took amusement very seriously. The being we just met, she used to be part of their analogue to a petting zoo. A protector and companion for the kids that were dropped off while their parents and older siblings went on the rides."
I wish we had theme parks where 'leave small child in the care of specially bred defense lions while we enjoyed the latest roller coaster' was a viable option.
I wish we still just had regular theme parks honestly.
"And she wants her job back?" Letrizia guessed. "Even after millions of years. Wholly committed to her purpose, just like Verschlengorge. The Foremost sure knew how to make 'em."
I made this joke before, but, Five Million Years at Astral Lioness' coming to a Voyaging Realm experience near you
"Okay, roller-coaster tycoon," Hunger said amusedly. "We know you've got to revive the dilapidated park, but did you get any tactically useful information from this glimpse? What were the Foremost like? Were they humanoid in appearance? Did they display any unusual capabilities? Any hints as to the nature of the forces coming for you?"
And again, Hunger picked the absolutely strangest things to keep when he cut his memory in half and forgot so many formative things. Wonder if he played a lot.
"Nothing on that last one," Aobaru shook his head. "It was wild. There were dimensions involved that I can't really describe, and I don't know if it was purely metaphorical, but they looked like humans to me. More or less regular humans, though some of them had some pretty sick mods. Elf, orc, kind of like the stuff you'd see in Voyaging City but way more refined."
I recommend the new anime Deca-Dence for the feel this is giving me.
"Speaking of Voyaging City," Letrizia mused, "I really should be getting back... it's no hurry though! I want to stay with you guys and develop my Element as much as I can!"
I've made my case for this above but I'll keep hammering on this drum.
"Unconcerned with matters imperial?" Hunger raised an eyebrow.

Letrizia pouted. "Just let me have this, okay! It's nice to be free, even if I'm just following you guys around. Besides, there's no place safer than next to my bodyguards!"
Looks at the number of votes that were cool with her dying
Ah ha... maybe we should get you to a safe place.
"Flattery will get you nowhere." Hunger turned to Aobaru. "I've been involved in the Chosen One business before. It never goes as trivially as they say. We'll do our best to make sure you have it easier than I did, but be prepared for severe adversity. When we're done here I'll tell you a bit about what I went through. It's not something I'd wish upon any but my worst enemies."
Now I want to hear those war stories!
"Don't set yourself up as some sort of mentor figure," Letrizia said worriedly. "Those are almost always fated to die!"
And in the Realm of Myth that's more of a concern than it normally would be.
"Fate promises many things," Hunger said bitterly. "It rarely delivers. And if it wants a piece of me, I would welcome the opportunity."
Honestly kind of sad we didn't get A Promise Kept because there's something really appealing to me thematically about a thought dead destiny finally being able to pick itself up and be fulfilled.
 
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