[X] Cut Through
[X] Procrastination

Into the breach is more mechanically rewarding but Orm is right, Cut Through makes more sense.

I suppose this is the double-procrastination vote, but I really don't see why we need to decide our actions for the next couple of months/years/decades right now rather than a couple of days. Same for trade agreements; these nations are lightyears apart and we haven't even won yet. We could probably conquer another country in the time it took to talk trade agreements.
 
Do our maimings and conditions count as wound penalties? How about lack of access to quickening stats while in second form? That would be quite good, when dead an bloodless our blood bonuses are doubled instead of removed so long as we didn't suicide.
 
[X] Cut Through
[X] Priority Two


Given the considerations of time and the fact that Adorie is basically our companion already, I suppose Cut Through is fine enough. Not taking any bait options though. I greatly dislike the Long Voyage given most of the dangers to us seem to come from the Human Sphere; we will likely be forced to go there anyway given Ring War business. So why delay more? We've done enough of that already. I want to finally see that other half of the setting we've been denied for so long.
 
If you want to see Hunger talking pick into the breach, if you don't care about the negotiations just leave them to Gisena. Cut Through is the worst of both worlds where Hunger just gives up negotiating at all.
 
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I'm happy with most of the options, but there are some options that are better than others. This post is an attempt to rebut some of Orm's argument for Cut Through + Procrastination:

To recap, the options give these benefits:
Cut Through: Commit to remove the Lord Protector in exchange for her Artifacts, while leaving details of political concessions for later. Blurb notes indicate that Hunger will follow through, but cautions that mere friendship might not be a good foundation for treaties. The blurb also notes that the technical details might return in future.​
Procrastination: make no decision, take no proactive action towards Aobaru's new quest. The blurb notes are awfully glib, using exclamation points and rhetorically asking: "what could possibly be wrong with that?" The blurb explicitly says that the option is "somewhat reckless" and musters the very persuasive rebuttal of "but eh"​

Orm's Argument, paragraph by paragraph, can be summarized (hopefully charitably) as follows:

1. The thread is committed to fight with the LP, so we don't give up much in-character by agreeing to follow through. The thread isn't going to be scared away by the LP's abilities, and Hunger is in a rush to go look for Huntress' Moon targets. The loss of strategic flexibility therefore is not painful because we weren't going to change our plan anyway.

2. Hiding behind Gisena isn't appealing, even if it means that we get lore about Hunger's adventures. Into the Breach has "odds that are outright worse." Hunger needs to make a good first impression if Adorie is going to administer all our holdings.

3. Adorie is guaranteed as a companion so ground lost by failing to negotiate now can be made up later when we are more friendly. The characterization beat of making Hunger easy to work with will improve Adorie's relationship long-term.

4. Procrastination's free Arete helps with OaF and allows Hunger time to deliberate how to handle Aobaru. Procrastination allows Letrizia's plot time to increase in importance.


I'm deeply troubled that this has swung at least two votes so far. There are characterization costs associated with the combination that I don't like, and there are opportunity costs associated with leaving the alternatives on the table.

During the contentious Who Dares Wins vote, lots of people were unhappy with allowing the characterization of Hunger as a reckless sovereign to become entrenched. I argued at the time a rush from one objective to the next is simply a description of how the Thread has voted so far. However, the previous "reckless" choices were options that emphasized Hunger's freedom to act without restriction. Going to the Temple was an attempt to throw off the yoke of the Apocryphal Curse. Ennobling the Remnant and then leaving immediately was an attempt to avoid guilt and recrimination for leaving millions defenseless. Rushing to fight both Mizuku and the Rotbeast was an attempt to prevent the prototype armor from developing into a greater threat that would pin us down in the future.

"Cut Through" the diplomatic negotiations does not leave Hunger free to act at all! The description of Hunger's character emphasizes his ability to adjust to new information and changing contexts. Where we may save minutes or hours by washing our hands of the negotiations, there could be costs in terms of days or weeks depending on the kind of campaign that Adorie and the Royalists want to operate. If the Royalists demand a Public Relations blitz, Hunger might be honor bound to stay in the Realm of Myth for months or longer! There is a further danger of provoking the Doom of the Tyrant if Hunger does not establish himself as a Ruler of co-equal prestige. It is of paramount importance that Adorie not attempt to order us around as we learn to work together.

The loss of strategic flexibility is especially painful in light of our newfound Empyrean Signs. With boosted Charisma and freedom of movement throughout the VR, Hunger could seek out allies among the targets of the LP's colonialist ambitions. We have a list of military assets that can only grow as we get picks in the early stages of an insurgency. Committing to a limited set of politically appealing victory conditions seems like a mistake given that Adorie lacks real-world experience with the day to day realities of the Realm of Myth, let alone battlefield or military experience. Keep in mind that we are about to increase our Military Rank by 2. Limiting Hunger's ability to act before we know what we're really capable of is a major unforced error.

Letting Gisena negotiate is our first opportunity to undermine the established characterization of Rulership that caused so much salt amongst the thread: it would place Hunger's subjects above his own boredom with diplomacy and eagerness for battle. Improving government quality beyond "adequate" would have major knock-on effects for Aobaru's quest: he is a well- known figure in the Sovereignty and giving his homeland more resources provides him with allies he can count on. The prospect of Hunger L O R E is also not something that we should discard so lightly. Information about Hunger's Isekai world has been very thin on the ground. He's usually not a very talkative person. Finally, giving Gisena an opportunity to display something other than relentless teasing banter might be a chance to peer beyond the mask of "pure excellence" that she uses as a defense mechanism.

Maybe more screen time for Gisena is unacceptable to you, regardless of the associated screen time for Hunger & Teens / mechanical benefits / chance to nudge Hunger's character away from the murder hobo that people objected to before. Into the Breach has some very positive features that voting to "Cut Through" completely abandons. First and foremost most importantly, Picks. We need a pick to unlock Once and Future. We need picks to unlock Stranglethorn or whatever other Defining Advancement we have unlocked. Going into a negotiations about the future of the Realm of Myth against a gifted political mind who has had years to establish her goals and desires... this will not be a trivial encounter. Trying it at all gives an entire Arete!

The subject of Arete is an important one: We were told our Arete count was 51 at the start of Who Dares Wins. Since then we have posted 51K words of fan content, and 1,174 discussion posts. I'll be shocked if we do not have enough Arete to at least discuss buying Once and Future. If we do not have enough Arete to afford ADS at the very least then I will eat my hat. Taking a risk and handling the negotiations ourselves is a narratively excellent time to reveal the power of Once and Future: Hunger has returned to reclaim the Kingdom from Lord Protector the Usurper!

The benefits of success at this challenge are more than commensurate with its risks. Securing "maximum latitude of action" sets a precedent that puts Hunger in a Command Role within the (Royalist) Legions of Nilfel. This is good practice for Hunger as a military commander, as well as good practice for his soldiers if and when they are called to steamroll the military of the Human Sphere. Similarly, securing "favorable trade terms for the Sovereignty" allows for Aobaru's homeland to ascend even while he's in the middle of a challenging quest. Meanwhile, a "loss" in negotiations involves Adorie's success in her attempt to "bind you strongly to her cause". That's what Cut Through offers without so much as a discussion!




This is already getting a bit long, so I will just say that Procrastinating on Aobaru pays Arete because it is bait. It defers starting his progression, and it likely takes the choice about Hunger's future out of our hands entirely. If Hunger does not make a decision, Letrizia's need to return to the Human Sphere might lead her to a direct conflict with Aobaru. We've already seen them trade barbs when he pointed out that the power of Ruin isn't exactly a traditionally heroic power set. If Letrizia gives us an ultimatum between her and Aobaru, the Apocryphal Onslaught and the Chains of Fate will tie us to Aobaru, at least until we've killed the opponent sent to kill him. Much better to proactively manage tensions within the party, either by committing to the VR or by directing Aobaru to tag along to the Human Sphere. In light of doubled Arete generation, three Arete isn't even that much!


To summarize, Cut Through leaves a lot of benefits on the table, for the dubious benefit of a few minutes or hours saved in negotiation time. Making an attempt at good rulership is our first chance to curb the characterization that dismayed a lot of voters, and the benefits of negotiation are surprisingly broad. Meanwhile, Procrastination risks the voters' agency and endangers our relationship with both Letrizia and Aobaru. Much better to pick a direction now, and get concrete benefits, instead of taking Arete that we can just mine for ourselves.

1. Strategic flexibility is very important given our new capabilities and imminent jump of 2 Rank in matters related to the military.
2. "Failing" at negotiation basically just results in the outcome of Cut Through, but the benefits of either Gisena or Hunger negotiating are pretty dramatic.
3. We don't want to let Adorie think she can dictate terms to us, given the Doom of the Tyrant.
4. Procrastination takes away agency from the voters, and risks party unity by ignoring real and valid tensions between Letrizia and Aobaru's immediate goals.
 
Ennobling the Remnant and then leaving immediately was an attempt to avoid guilt and recrimination for leaving millions defenseless.

I don't really care much about this vote but this isn't really a accurate description of what hunger's motivations or actions were at the time. The quest explicitly avoided leaving immediately, their was a entire vote about it with that being a option which handidly the loss, with the other losing vote involving turning them into a army that would resulted in mass death. Hunger chose the option to stay around and enmeshed himself in the politics of the place while he picked out and ennobled various defenders and leaders, many of which still have their Soul Evocation to a dimished extent along with ther rank, to the limits of his ability, choosing not to Kill Sten specifically because he was the most capable leader and guardian of the civilization, and later on chose not to take Sten to help with the defense of Elixer because he was concerned that doing so would in fact leave the Temple population defenseless.
 
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Negotiation:

-Situation: The Lord Protector is going to be a problem, and we're trying to negotiate for the EFB artifacts in order to get a better deal from taking them as our EFBs.
This option is probably about balancing risk of negotiation failure with likelihood of better rewards. Also, it does seem like Hunger is deliberately choosing not to mitigate Decimator, here, and instead take Tower. Guess Decimation Lens was a good pick? Anyways, Adorie seems like a threatening negotiator from her description, which probably means that Hunger doing it is fairly risky, while having Gisena pull her social wizardry is easier. Plus, we might have to worry about Doom of the Tyrant if we go for it? Everyone in the situation is probably capable of knowing to not pull protocol or "respect" bullshit on us, just from the vibe we give off and the supernatural levels of charisma, so it's hard to gauge what the actual risk is here.

+Into the Breach: Hunger negotiates. Risk: Bad negotiation could lead us to be overcommitted to the fight, forcing us into personally riskier positions in order to fulfill obligations, or making us waste or expend resources in order to leverage a marginal gain for Adorie's people. If there's any chance of an unfortunate Tyrant proc, this is the option that'd give it. Gain: +1 free Arete, possible Picks (which might allow immediate Winter King, if we're generative enough), possible advancements (if we get offered a Rule-based advancement here, I guess it might be tempting? We are about to get Tears as a panoply item, though), and +Hunger's personal confidence.

+Hide Behind Gisena: The prudent options. Risk: Low but some chance that Gisena somehow fails, or sucks, or misinterprets what we would want. Adorie respects Hunger less. Hunger's mindset continues to be "make Gisena do it" for certain things, which isn't bad but might be unsustainable in the long term if he wants to overcome this Geas task. Gain: +Gisena, a rare treat. Much better chances of success or great success, the latter of which is almost invaluable. Hunger maintains a refreshed demeanor.

+Cut Through: The meme option. Risk: Delaying things in this manner might cause later problems. Being bound by our word to oppose the Lord Protector is fine, as we're basically planning on that condition anyways, but the point of negotiation would be to get more than parity. Gain: +Adorie.

-Summary: Into the breach has the possibility of gaining picks for an immediate Winter King, as well as free Arete, which is immensely tempting. However, we can get picks and Arete in many places with simple effort, but the opportunity for a +Gisena doesn't come along so often. Gisena might also extract a great success in negotiations, which is valuable so far as we're concerned about our subjects (and getting the rest of the Rank from success on that front). The only casualty is that Hunger once again puts off social experience relevant to rule, which he'll presumably need to set himself up for success on this or future Geas tasks. Cut Through seems relatively inferior. After all, it essentially chooses +Adorie over +Gisena and several other benefits. But there's some hidden problems at play here with Tears. We're currently committed to giving it back to Adorie as a panoply item, which means that it wouldn't be a first +, but a sixth +. And surely we want to maximize our relationship with the person who is going to be holding one of the items from our Panoply? I would rather have ducked this mess and taken Tears: Gisena, but eh. Even with this in mind, we'll still be saving her Realm from a starting position of +++++relationship, so I don't really feel worried about that. Hunger is good at building relationships with people.

Overall, having Gisena do negotiations makes the most sense to me. The possibility of a really good trade deal is worth more to me then the equally remote possibility of picks that has a less good chance of general success tacked on.


Chosen One:

-Situation: Well, Aobaru is now endowed with a sacred quest to save the whole Voyaging Realm. Lore's back on the menu, boys! We're already experiencing some explosive growth, but being proactive about the new threat coming for Aobaru that we'll have to face is a must. All these gambits are...piling up a bit quick, huh? The Apocryphal Curse must be laughing her ass off.

+Impart, then Depart: Powerlevel him a bit, kill the thing hunting him, and send him off. Risk: Aobaru is separated from our influence, protection, and potential empowerment (despite initially training him more harshly). He's a chosen hero, so this means that he might end up our enemy somehow. Aobaru also isn't around to buff us, which we spent a decent chunk of Arete on. Gain: Splitting the party decreases risk to Aobaru from The Apocryphal Curse and decreases risk to us from Fated Death as a heroic mentor. Plus, it might be more efficient to let him try to figure things out on his own, while we go off and deal with other stuff. In the end, he'll quite likely be extremely influential in the Voyaging Realm as a whole.

+Priority Two: Keep him close, at the cost of taking a while to fulfill his destiny. Risk: An inversion of the last option. He'll be in danger from our circumstances and Apocryphal, we'll be in danger of interference by Fate. Gain: Less power in the near term is some some power, and perhaps more power in the long term before his quest is attempted. We have him around to buff us and we're around to directly protect and guide him.

+The Long Voyage: Committing entirely to supporting Aobaru and seeing this things through. Risk: The Human Sphere continues to languish as we gather immense power. If I'm remembering the way everything in the quest has worked up until now, the longer we leave The Human Sphere aside, the more problems we'll have to deal with once we get there. This isn't an RPG where you can do sidequests at your leisure, ignoring the main plot with no consequences. Also exposes us to a drawn out quest. Gain: +Hunger Mental Stability, keeping Aobaru close and safe while resolving his questline, What Rains May Come, the same sort of access to Foremost tech as we might get from Impart, then Depart, but faster.

+Procrastination: The option that hits too close to home. Risk: Not committing to a solution or thinking about the problem at all? That's not very responsible or Cut Through or Forebear or Hunger of you. Gain: 3 Arete, but...is it really worth it?

-Summary: Procrastination is an immediate no, because I'm not a sucker. I'd rather have Aobaru with us than sent away; I acknowledge that splitting the party is efficient here, but it's still splitting the party. And he's a Chosen Hero...I don't want to risk him being killed by being outside our ability to help, or turning into an enemy somehow (which I feel like Apocryphal might be able to arrange). That leaves Priority Two or The Long Voyage, and between those two, I feel like The Long Voyage is a better character choice for Hunger, personally. It offers more, too, despite pushing the Human Sphere back even further. And training with him seriously might provide a nice edge to kill the thing set against him. Plus, it's more likely that we can safely extract ourselves from the Voyaging Realm with this much Voyaging Realm Magic if we've completed his quest, which is really important. With these last EFBs, we have quite a lot of it on us...

These feel synergistic. Better deals for the Elixir Kingdom will probably make our Elixir Companions happier.

[X] Hide Behind Gisena
[X] The Long Voyage
 
[X] Into the Breach

No particular opinion on this section, so let's get that trickle of arete and picks.

[X] Priority Two
[X] The Long Voyage

Can't decide between these two right now. Long Voyage may lead to more mage-options... But we did just get those lovely Empyrean Signs (especially Supreme Enclosure), so my magic-lust is mostly sated for the time being. And I do think if we leave the Human Sphere alone for too long it'll come back to bite us. Apocryphal-chan is not going to sit on the Ring War forever, and then there's whatever is going on that we haven't been told the details of - letting a mystery box that potentially has a bomb inside sit around cooking does not sound like the greatest of plans.
 
Fanwork#1677 Words. An essay on why we should buy All-Defeating Stance. Yes, even before we grab Once and Future. Yes, I know it comes with King of Winter.

Section Zero: All-Defeating Stance

First and Foremost, we need ADS because we need to defeat all. The Lord Protector is our most immediate concern (and I'll get to why I prefer ADS against even him alone), but we've desperately scrambled into a situation where we have no shortage of enemies. The Protector, most of the country of Nilfel, LP's secret backup plans, Aobaru's Amazing Assassin, Decimation Target 2.0, and Apo-chan's gleeful contribution to this clusterfuck.

Now, it's all well and good to say that ADS is good, but since I'm going to have to argue to put off OaF to the future once again, I should explain why it isn't as suitable for the current situation. Rank is pretty generalist as well, right? It'd help with all these problems.

Section One: Autocrat-Defeating Stance

Normally, yes. But I don't think it's best against the Protector. Specifically, Hunger's Rank is already moderately- wait, no, with the tears it's far ahead of his stats. I admit to something of an aesthetic preference for balance, but that's not the reason here. Any properly prepared Protector picks 'ppropriate plans, and if he's coming after Hunger he's likely to have anti-Rank tactics. The Exposition Cat said as much, warning us that the next foe would be less powerful but more specialized. But anti-Rank effects are rare, so you might think me paranoid. In response, I'll first say that Nilfel is full of high Ranking people, so the doctrine that would evolve in the land of Myth would have a strong focus on countermeasures. Admittedly, "more Rank lol" would be one answer, but still. Secondly, Bastion of Myth, the Empyrean Sign we were just offered that makes HDS even more punch-uppy. Named after the Tower itself, which the Protector has had access too, and interest in, for quite some time. On top of the wizard memes, if he doesn't have an answer to overwhelming Rank I'll eat my hat.

Section Two: Army-Defeating Stance

Or an answer to any individual strength I can think of, for that matter. Since we chose Bastion to halve the outnumbered bonus against us once more, perhaps I should have said the Many-individual Defeating Stance. Combined with the Protector's insight, I'm concerned about enemies with a type advantage on us. Something magical, that gets around the many +Protection we have before we can grab Iridescence? A massive explosion that we can't protect all our party against? And there's no chance he doesn't have plenty of bloodless minions. Whatever LP's precisely planned offenses are, ADS should help against them. Any less comprehensive defense/improvement would leave gaps in our armor for him to exploit.

Except for any anti-Ruin magics, but shh. Do you doubt the Forebear?!

There's another benefit to ADS that I wouldn't have thought would come up for centuries, and that's that it preserves our Blade powers even in Realms with bizarre metaphysics. And then the Exposition Cat turns out to have been summoned from somewhere like the Realm of Forms. I don't think it's out of the question we could be dropped somewhere where we'd want WoDS, after reading that.

For the actual armies, Holy Shit will inflict a massive psychological attack. However many dozen Charisma +'s we have, the intimidation effect on our enemies will be doubled. And Manipulation, too, which should help us with feinting. It's a pity that the anti-Hunger organizations are already formed, but there could still be some interesting cohesion damage that ADS would inflict.

And there's one thing that I feel has been overlooked- our DPS will increase massively if all our Ruin-infused attacks are 5x as ruinous. Remember how much more damage we were doing to Eva's sword than we should have been? It'll be like that for all our attacks, now. We're already Cutting with every strike, but more damage never hurt anyone! Or the opposite of that, more damage does hurt people and that's good.

Section Three: Apocryphal-Defeating Stance

Quite frankly, Hunger is practically begging for the Apocryphal Curse to step in and make things more interesting. Any of my above worries, or those I haven't yet written? Apo-chan could make them worse. Slipping LP our weaknesses, perhaps. So I'd like to knock the Curse down by 5%. It isn't much, I know, but every bit helps. Particularly since it can be the difference between "overwhelming" and "challenging" opponents. Small numbers mean much more around thresholds like that.

I admit, it's possible that I'm overreacting to the Apocryphal Curse. There is reason to believe it's not likely to screw with us too much right now. Particularly after dropping 50 Arete on a powerup, when we were already outscaling it, and it just invested a lot of effort (or so I assume) on the Rotbeast and Ber. Moreso, now that we know that the Curse got extra juice from allowing us to pick our poison. So it might be okay- but just to be safe, let's not ask "What could possibly go wrong?" It would take much energy to screw with us (from a human's perspective, which is the only one I really have), and the rules are more like guidelines for this curse anyway. Apocrypal mitigation is always good.

Section Three-point-five: Appetite-Defeating Stance

Because of our votes, the Decimator's Affliction is about to come out of hibernation. This would be a very bad thing, but we might still be able to stop it by being hardcore enough and finding, teleporting to, and killing a new target before the clock runs out. People have proposed that this will be easier, and Huntress's Moon more generous in target selection, if we can mitigate the curse before we start scrying. Silver is the main contributor here, but ADS would give us even more room! And if we're going to pop it in the next couple of days, why not now, when we can enjoy the benefits for longer? Decimation targets sort of scale to powerlevels, too, so any other EFB would... maybe be less useful for this particular purpose. I'm a bit unsure here- if we'd grabbed a bunch of powerups before we smashed the Tower, it'd still sate us just the same. But that locking-in of targets is probably for Rihaku's sanity more than anything else, and I don't want to abuse that too thoroughly. And actually, snap-buying ADS after picking a target would help more, there, so ignore all of that. :s Just remember that mitigation is cool.

And ADS should help with travel time as well, with the +5 Will->Agi. Less important with teleportation, but who knows what snarls will come up. It'll help us run away faster, too, if we don't make it in time and have to escape a populated area.

The 5% mitigation will also have us do that much less damage if our hunt isn't successful quickly. It's a small bonus, but since we're set to destroy quite a few peoples' worth of life force a minute, ADS is a miracle of mercy. Because Decimation is that bad, seriously.

Section Four: Adorie-Defeating Stance

More stats means more persuasion, obviously; +'s to Cha, Manip, Int, Wis, and Luck will help us in social combat. But in addition to that, what we're selling here is, in large part, Hunger's personal power. ADS increases that greatly, so Adorie should feel more confident about leaving the fate of her kingdom in our hands. And, looking towards the future, wouldn't you feel more accommodating to your ally if they had +++Wis and you were fairly sure they weren't going to implode?

I'd say that Ruin would counteract her Rank advantage, but I'm not sure that even makes sense. She isn't attacking us- well, "beauty is an attack" so maybe she is. Still seems a bit rude to defeat her Rank like that, but Hunger isn't the most politest fellow anyway. It's an option for Hunger, I suppose.

Then, there's the big thing. ADS's Holy Shit doubles Hunger's Charisma and Manipulation against those weaker, and Adorie was explicitly not great in fights. That's almost quadruple Manipulation after the new +'s. It's an insane boost. We do lose the +2 Rank for detecting Guile, but we still come out ahead on Manipulation +'s, and the problem with Adorie was less that she's screw us over sneakily and more that she's just better. With ADS, the gap is closed enormously.

Section Five: Aobaru-Defending Stance

With more numbers, we can cut things better. ADS is nice like that, but I've already talked about that benefit.

I expect +++++Int and +++Wis would be useful for teaching, at least a bit. Holy Shit's doubled social stats could help to "manipulate" him into learning, as well (I'm not entirely clear on that stat, honestly). And they'd also help Hunger control him, to put it menacingly. So he doesn't run off to any Protectors or anything.

And... it's mostly just that the stats are awesome. But for such a long-term challenge, with so many components, All-Defeating Stance is the kind of general buff that we need!

Section Five: All-Defeating-Defeating-Defeating Stance
For the sake of completeness (and also Arete), I'll address hypothetical counterarguments by putting words in peoples' mouths.

Isn't the defense focus of ADS less vital with the Tower's massive protection bonus? / Yes. But we don't have Iridescence yet, and the competition for picks if fierce at the moment.

Do we even have the Arete to buy ADS? / I don't know. I'm working on that now, lol.

If we buy ADS now, we can't snap-buy it later. / This is a good point, but now isn't the time to hoard elixirs, we're at the final boss. You know, metaphorically.

But really, that's a heck of a lot of Are- / Looks like we're out of time, thank you for coming to my TED talk.

I'm sure there are multiple things I've overlooked, but that's okay because ADS can defeat them, too!

[X] Into the Breach
[X] Priority Two
[X] All-Defeating Stance
 
Party size is indeed an important component to consider when evaluating Hunger's build nowadays! Who would you guys cut if you had to right now?
I mean, some of us are demonstrably willing to part with Aeira or even Letrizia? Aobaru contributes to Hunger's strength and no sane fisherman would willingly discard such a singularity of plot hooks, but Verschlengorge hasn't actually done much other than provide a steady stream of picks and lore when you think about it. Our personal power's growth has, amusingly, outpaced the Armament's restoration. If we return Letrizia to the Empire and its associated responsibilities, thus discharging our obligation to her, that'd pare down the party while still retaining her as an ally. Aeira had a solid start, helping to heal Hunger's liver (is that finished?) and providing a way to introduce the Temple documents to the narrative, but hasn't had any standout moments since despite the buff. Gisena's obviously too useful to do away with, irksome as her personality is. This must be what a low-power Brand of the Wretched feels like...
As for freedom, there is the matter of timing...

That said, I'm surprised how many people are eager to delay the Human Sphere expedition yet again! What would Letrizia's superiors think!? This is downright dereliction of duty if she's found to be alive!
Yeah, I'm sure the Apocryphal Curse would be happy to help inform the Empire that she's gone AWOL. Letting it set up the entire Human Sphere in opposition to us and stack the deck for our Geas task seems like a straightforwardly bad idea. The problem was and remains mage extraction, even if Letrizia doesn't count (she's a duchess, higher up in the Empire's peerage!) we've got two other Elementalists tagging along. It's tempting to just ignore that problem and stay in the Voyaging, because I just know leaving is going to be a huge headache. Maybe the Apocryphal'll throw Ber at us on top of the apocalypse, maybe we'll get some new and exciting flavor of proc. But in the long run ignoring Indenture is riskier, and the intended plot is bound to be interesting. I want to see what's waiting for us, and if possible fulfill my past self's wish to watch the internet explode after we sword a mech to death.
 
I'm sure there are multiple things I've overlooked, but that's okay because ADS can defeat them, too!
[X] Into the Breach
[X] Priority Two
[X] All-Defeating Stance


This was a highly entertaining read. You even sold me on Bastion, retroactively. "Many individual defeating stance" made me lol. Plus, this would make Bastion more effective overall by extending the time that we benefit from the advance on Rank from OaF.
 
That Projectile argument has merit. ADS does many things for us, but something I've just though of that is very relevant - we just picked up Opalescent Tower and Tears of Winter, the greediest EFB combination. ADS is pure immediate power.

The idea of following up high greed with pure power appeals to my sensibilities. Do we have enough Arete for ADS though? I think we haven't gotten a re-total since... Who Dares Wins. So we have the entire double EFBs argument, and the entire "What Empyrean Signs" argument worth of Arete. Yeah, we probably have enough.

[X] Into the Breach
[X] Priority Two
[X] All-Defeating Stance
 
[X] Into the Breach
[X] Priority Two
[X] All-Defeating Stance

Yeah, I'll go with this for now. Still, the +Mental Stability of Voyage is nice, and I internally gave up on seeing the Human Sphere/mentally committed to the fact that we'd be stuck in VR for the rest of the actual quest/wordcount when the Tower vote happened.
 
[X] Into the Breach
[X] Priority Two
[X] All-Defeating Stance

I guess I am bandwagoning for now, seems like a pretty good choice for the time being.
 
Fanwork#3674 Words. Gird for Battle Reaction.
I've been girding for a while, but the battle's not here yet. The one in game, that is. The thread exists in a constant state of war, and one cannot truly prepare for it without stockpiling reserves or engaging in economic witchcraft.

Fortunately, all this extra time means we can gird pretty well! Drown the Lord Protector in Arete!
Hunger mulled over his options. Ultimately it seemed likely that the Royalist faction would be far more permissive in their attitude towards the fate of the Tower. They were in dire straits, while the Protector was essentially secure in his power. There were abilities Hunger could offer the man, meritorious service or the use of potent magics, but he had no way to knowing whether such services would - or even could - outweigh the Tower's value in the Protector's eyes. Profit decoupled from risk at certain levels of attainment; for an autocrat with effectively absolute control, simply minimizing disruption could matter far more than expanding the scope of his conquests.

The Royalists, on the other hand, would be desperate for victory from any quarter; thus willing to pay a desperate price. Assuming they had forces sufficient to be worth allying with, they were probably the better option of the two, and certainly the more ethically palatable.
Peeking inside Hunger's head, he believes that the Royalists are his best shot at smashing the Tower, rather than merely the least unpleasant path. He's correct that they need the help more, so if the Tower is actually important to anyone (which we now know OoC it is, since it's the font of Myth), they'd be easier to convince to give it up. Whereas the Protector doesn't need to make deals with shady mercenaries, and if he's as canny as he seems, it's plausible that he wouldn't. I can see where Hunger's coming from, here, but I don't think I'd come to the same conclusion in his shoes. The Royalists simply don't have the apparent oomph to make aggroing the Protector worth it, absent moral considerations. If they had the strength, they wouldn't be so desperate- an oversimplification, but the Protector's overwhelming position makes me think it isn't much of one.

But sic semper tyrannis, however Hunger came to his decision is fine with me.
"Well," Hunger said. "Since we ourselves are royalty now, it would only serve our purposes to defend the rights and privileges of our fellow monarchs. How easily power corrupts."

"Power is merely utility!" Gisena replied. "You'd only have been corrupted if you turned into a tyrant."

"Aren't I already one?" He raised an eyebrow.

"If that's your intention, you're doing a poor job of it!" she teased.
Whatever title you style yourself with (practitioners name as they will!), you've swooped into the Elixir, won an overwhelming military victory, and ousted the old government. You've got more in common with the Lord Protector than the royalty from that perspective. Rather than royal privilege, you should be focusing on the new being better than the old. If you were actually a tyrant, that is, which according to Gisena you've been failing at.

In the Realm of Myth, though, there's special meaning to being Royalty- as the Tears show, so names are actually pretty important. The story is what matters, after all.
"Pffh," Aobaru protested. "Of course she'd say that, you've surrounded yourself with yes-men and women! A King, a Princess, a Duchess, a mercenary and a squire. Who could oppose you in the strength of your own court?"
This is also true! I mean, Hunger is so tsundere about grabbing authority that we don't have to worry too much about actual civilization-scale tyranny until we're forced into actually accomplishing our Geas, but Hunger beats up his poor minions whenever they defy him and call him the Reckoner. At least Gisena knows how to navigate the Doom, but she's in this for pretty jewelry so she'll only call out egregious uses of power.

Aobaru continues to call himself a squire, even though it was the "mercenary" we just dropped 7 Arete of training on. Amusing, but I'm starting to worry about that boy...
"Maybe so," Hunger said. "Or perhaps I am merely a small fish in an even smaller pond. Nothing more than a frog in a well. For what is the trifling might of my Kingdom compared to the majesty of peerless Nilfel?"

Letrizia snickered. "These people do seem a bit full of themselves! Even compared to imperial nobility, they've had it easy. It must be nice to live in a land totally saturated by magic..."

"I wouldn't be so sure about that," Gisena said, frowning. "The magic of myth promises glory, but danger also. It simply doesn't offer power without commensurate cost."
"Smaller" is correcting for the relative size of average fish and ponds, but I prefer the implication that the fish is bigger than the pond. Hunger could theoretically solo the rest of his kingdom, so the metaphor would still hold! Except the fish would drown, let's hope that doesn't happen.

As arrogant as Nilfel is, it really is mightier than the Elixir. And it has to deal with having the Lord Protector, eeww. But there's no need to be snooty about it, so I should join with Letrizia in making fun of them. Nyehhhh.
They set out in search of the Royalist inner circle, Hunger allowing his Rank to guide him in the absence of any solid leads. Despite the numerous and powerful magics in their arsenal, they lacked an easy means of information-gathering besides the roundabut method of Gisena's Artifice. He'd prioritized raw power and comprehensive defense over more utility-focused magics, which had served him well in battle but caused them to somewhat flounder here.
Hey, brutishly wandering around until Rank coughs up an answer has worked so far! As long as you ignore the horrible scarring. And all the Arete we spend to make it work. Hm, you know, I think we should maybe grab some information-gathering magic soon. Just a random thought I came up with entirely on my own.

There's always the Time domain, but those prophecies are blurry and Gisena has so much to do already. And while blurry is better than nothing, we already have that with Rank. Simple visual scrying would be a good investment if it's available, so we can get general ideas. And the Truth ring stuff to answer yes/no questions when we have strong suspicions about things?

For this specific situation, danger sense from Time would have been a godsend, so maybe I should go with "more is better" and grab every magical system that isn't nailed down. Yeah, I like that idea.

Shadowcord isn't unrelated to information gathering, so I'm trying to imagine a way to invert it? Nah, doesn't work. We could possibly make divination spells more stealthy by combining our powers with her, though!
Eventually he found himself back in front of the stall where they'd eaten. Midday cast gleaming sunlight down across the white stone of the city, a haloed iridescence rising off the Miren expanse. But a breeze of the east wind was equal to that challenge, carrying heat away before the glow of the sun became a glower.
Here's the best reason to get divination magic. After flailing around, we ended up right back where we started, and the street vendor was the lead all along. It's too silly, but that's what happens when you screw with destiny in the Realm of Myth. Conservation of detail!

And, come to think of it, the most suitable information-gathering magic for Hunger would be kinda like astrology. That way, he could join me in desperate analyses of "what does the sky mean?" The sun is shining! Gleaming, rather. Triumphantly? Halo? Iridescent? Get these advancement words out of my sky. Miren is surrounded by a colorful halo, which I suppose is symbolic of either the Lord Protector or the somebody else? Since the sun is about to become threatening, it's probably LP, but it doesn't exactly fit because he's already up to no good. The easterly breeze is, which direction did we come from? Not that "east" is consistent in the Voyaging Realm, so who knows if we're windy. The breeze could also be the Lord Protector, since his patron is smoke-themed which is similar-ish.

Alternatively, it's Hunger who is the sun, since it's getting all the advancement names and also Edeldross. We should worry... hm. We should actually not worry about the breeze, it isn't threatening the sun, it's just stopping it from harming anyone. Iridescence, Triumphal Gleam, and Vanquisher Halo all increase Charisma, and Sky Veil allows for control over it, as represented by the breeze. Damn. If all the celestial happenings I've been trying to divine are just what upgrades we've picked recently, I'm going to be put out. Let me go back to see if there's any merit to this.
[ ] Sky Veil [7 Arete] - Just as the sky emblazons one's majesty, so too can it do the inverse, serving as a curtain drawn against the solar blaze of superhuman will.
Yep, there it is. "Solar blaze," is what Hunger's immense charisma is referring to. And the breeze is the sky moving to gentle it. Which would make the "Sky Veil" an atmosphere, protecting against the harmful effects of the sun. I'm not sure if that was supposed to be obvious, but I didn't get it until just now. So, in this case, I'm fairly sure my sky reading is just Sky reading. But what about before? I recall a section when we were resting in the Kaguya devoted to the sky that stuck in my head a bit.

Dusk had come to the Sovereignty, the sky clearing slowly of its invader's cloud-carrying shroud. Wide fingers of sunlight dappled the mountains and springs, bathing reconstruction crews and emergency staff in their warm, fleeting glow.
Ah, that was when we grabbed Silver of Evening. That one was obviously related to the pick, though, and it was an EFB so I didn't think it odd. I need to find one that I was doing some real tea-leafing over.

So I ctrl+F'ed for "sky" and there were just as many instances of "risky" as "sky," that got a chuckle out of me. And I also stumbled on this line I'd forgotten: "The night sky's incursion against sun and blue," was what the Evening Sky in the pirate's possession was described as. Interesting, because Hunger's Mantle seems not at all in opposition to daytime. It just... is. And with Sky Veil, the Evening Sky is closer to the Noontime Sky than it is to any non-Sky existence. With Tower, it'd just be a Sky. Continuing that thought, "Sun and blue" are an awful lot like the golden-blue runes on the Walls around here. For whatever that's worth.

Point is, I'll look more closely at the relationships between our Sky upgrades and the sky messages in the future.
The fish-vendor's stall now enjoyed bustling patronage, workers of all professions wrapped around the tiled sidewalk in patient anticipation of his marinade and dough. Yet the hawker waved Hunger over immediately when he saw him, pushing a tray of completed snacks into his hands.

Ignoring the envious glares of the customers, Hunger feigned aplomb as he took the food in hand. The vendor had greeted him convivially, and clasped his forearm to pull him close as if they were old war-buddies:

"I'd been looking for you. You're a mercenary, aren't you? You and your party. This trip isn't just for tourism."

Hunger played along, but kept his words noncommittal. "Anybody could be a 'mercenary' for the right job at the right price. It's not so much a calling as a vocation of circumstance."
Paranoia mode is still active: What could it mean that the fish stall is popular? Surely this is a setup, and Hunger getting to cut in line was intended to present a negative first impression to the Miren public. Alternatively, the food is good. There's some evidence for this in Letrizia's exclamations, but I'll keep my eyes peeled.

More seriously, if the Vendor (yes, he gets capitalization now) wanted to grab Hunger for a chat about rebellion, why did he wait until now to do so, rather than speaking earlier when there were less people around? Also, when he had the chance, since he wouldn't know we'd come back. I suspect the answer is Rank, but that's barely an explanation, Rank does everything. In this case, he might have only just noticed our Rank when we were using it to search. I don't think Hunger was being loud about it, but who knows what these guys can do with Pressure. This theory is unfortunate, because if the Vendor noticed than the Protector can likely do something similar. And I'm again more suspicious of the Vendor.

Or he could have been eavesdropping, since he mentions our "tourism" excuse and we were chatting about that around here. But that's not even slightly magical, which is lame. :s But he's wrong, Hunger-style tourism absolutely includes overthrowing tyrants by default, just like he kills Prime Rotspawn on vacation. As if the king would be something so common as a mercenary! No, he's just a tourist you pay to kill things, much more respectable. But Hunger's last line is so coooool, I want to be him. You know, from a distance where I don't actually have to be maximum tryhard.
The man chuckled. "Well said. I'd expect little less from a hero whose Pressure weighs so heavily upon the world. I've a job, if you'd be willing to hear it. And the reward would be no less than a prince's ransom!"

Hunger raised an eyebrow. Keen senses, to detect the Pressure that Hunger usually kept carefully restrained. Though, his power had grown swiftly in recent weeks, perhaps beyond his ability to effortlessly control. "You need help serving your overburdened customer line?"

The vendor laughed again, waving him off. "Nah, let them wait. The anticipation is half the joy of eating! No, I confess to being a patriotic sort, and the state of Nilfellian commerce is so execrable these days. No concern for customer service, only the ceaseless churning-out of watered-down product, substitution of diligence for inspiration. That's why the genuine work is so hotly demanded! I'd like to reach the whole nation if I could. Feel free to eat, it's on the house. Think it over? I promise it'll be wholly worth your while."
Vendor is no less slick. Of course the reward for a princess's freedom would be equal to "a prince's ransom!" It couldn't be otherwise, by definition- well, unless you were sexist about it. It's not super odd that Vendor can feel his pressure, though Hunger takes note that it's not normal either. But I think that it makes it more likely that he can tell the difference between having and using Pressure. I'm waving off Hunger's speculation that it's a lack of control on his part, surely he would have noticed before now, as he was concerned by his growing Charisma. Instead of practicing control, trying to drop Shadowcord over his pressure might be more fruitful to prevent Nilfel wizards from noticing his exertions.

If we weren't so horribly pressed for time, I'd be down for Hunger's Customer Service Sidequest. The Doom of the Tyrant would make it a short experience normally, but with his Charisma his utter lack of acknowledgement for roles should come off as charming. Earn that minimum wage! Or the prince's ransom, I guess, since you'd have to pay almost as much to get Hunger to be a waiter as you would to have him fight monsters. More, really.

The Vendor's euphemisms largely aren't, since the "diligence over inspiration" philosophical dispute appears central to the whole civil fracture. Blatantly so, with the temple's conversion to a factory. But, as I've asked before, does that really serve the Protector's purposes? To have "watered-down, not-genuine, uninspired" production, that is. Quantity over quality is totally valid, but Nilfel is rich as hell. The army, in particular, should already have both since they've been well-funded for a while. So what's the need for industrialized weapon production? To arm the people he's conquered, like some bloody pyramid scheme? Or maybe the Vendor is just biased, and the new products aren't worse as far as utility goes, merely much uglier. And with less customer service.

So now we have food again, which is the most important part of the update.
Briefly Hunger felt the counterweight of the vendor's own Pressure, a gesture of sincerity. Formidable, only two or three steps below his own. This was a soldier capable of singlehandedly felling cities, well comparable to the Nilfellian captains he'd witnessed on patrol at the Walls. Power tightly clasped, feigning weakness, but Hunger had no doubt this man's 'knee wound' only bothered him about as much as his own injured lung. It wasn't a meaningless wound, but no insult of such meagre severity could unmake a warrior of capacity such as this.

Convenient as it appeared to be, Hunger had no intention of falling into the clutches of Nilfellian secret police. Though his Rank rarely steered him wrong, it was prudent to be cautious when plotting against a nation populated by formidable magi. He ate carefully as he strolled around the city, tracking down the others before finally returning to the hawker's plaza.
"Steps." We heard Adorie was a half-step below Catherine, but that must be closer than I thought if 2-3 steps below Hunger (Rank 7.075 right now, if I recall correctly) is a city-killer. Or Rank 6 is enough to take on a city, for some reason (Unshattered?) I'd been putting that landmark at Rank 7. Regardless, this guy is swole. Which is even more suspicious! Especially because he can detect Rank, meaning people in Nilfel can detect Rank, meaning how has he managed to maintain secrecy? His arrow to the knee game would have to be incredible. Or he has stealth techniques for Rank that I'd envy.

I posit that Rank is steering Hunger wrong. The Protector has higher Rank, as do some of his minions, I'd bet. There are probably some interesting things you can do to the "currents" of Astral-ness to have them react in particular ways when outsiders try to disturb them. Meaning that one, we're screwed, and two, we need divination even more desperately. Maybe we can grab a friendly Astral summon with such a capability?

And, on further reading, the line about Hunger admitting to "plotting" against Nilfel sticks out. He has Guile-Defeating Stance, which must have some mechanism for detecting trickery so it can activate... wait, no, that's garbage, we wouldn't need the stance if it worked like that. But intention-detecting magic isn't out of the question, which would explain the ambush when I didn't think we'd given anything away. And magic is infused into everything here, so who knows what spells could be hidden. The secret police are not to be underestimated!
As they heartily consumed a second lunch, Hunger consulted Gisena on the matter.

"I don't think he works for the enemy," Gisena said thoughtfully, "And he doesn't have any unusual magics active. But it's best to be cautious nonetheless! Just because neither of us can sense any duplicity doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Let's consider the worst case. What if this is some form of trap, perhaps even an unwitting one?
--Vendor suspicion, I'm inclined to take the genius's word for it. And Hunger's, with Guile-Defeating Stance there's little duplicity that he can't sense. But I'm absolutely sure we were played by somebody here, so the vendor must have been as well. Because, as you know, I am from the future, and (spoiler alert) it was a trap. There's no party like a Hunger party, where every scenario is the worst-case!

Gisena doesn't sense any magic- I'm surprised. Not because the Vendor doesn't have magic, but because I didn't know Gisena could do that. Am I being forgetful? I think so, I vaguely recall her talking about the spells in the Temple antechamber. Huh. I'll write that down for the future. But for now, the key word is "active." Doesn't exclude my "everything is bugged" theory. The vendor was noted to be a master Rank-concealer, though, so I believe her assessment of his magic less than that of his intentions.
Do you have any wonderfully devastating powers you could pull out of a hat?"

"A few," Hunger admitted. He grew fastest when exposed to direct conflict, but there were powers he could tap into that were less affected by the Ring's out-of-battle dampening. The might of the Forebear was chained within his Blade, even its shallowest remnant sufficient to bring this world and all its denizens effortlessly to their knees. If he could somehow tap the true harmonics of that essence, rather than just skimming its cloud-shadow...

But that was something to be reserved for utmost emergencies. It was no trivial thing to assume a fraction, even a sliver, of the Forebear's mantle.

"A few," he repeated firmly, "But it is as you said. The magic of myth does not offer power without commensurate cost."
"Yo, Hunger, what's your Arete stockpile looking like?" "Pretty good, Aabchemu splurged for a multiplier."

Gisena knows us so well! Or maybe she's just desperately hoping that we aren't reckless enough to charge at the Tower without a bac- wait, no, this whole operation was her idea. Dammit Gisena, why do you have to be just as crazy as Hunger is? None of the sane party members have enough +Cha to oppose both of you.

So that's how having Arete translates in-character, huh. Having voted for maximum recklessness as Hunger's characterization, it's good to know that he's always had a backup plan (even one as barebones as "Arete Through") this whole time! The same one as the thread, which is cool.

Hunger could be talking only about the Arete we're spending on the advancements when he mentions cost- but honestly, some Forebear mental contamination might be helpful at this point, to keep us alive. /jk. Yeah, the only cost should be the immense effort he has to put forth to draw it out. There might be some exhaustion-like penalty for spending way too much Arete in a period of a few hours, when we attune the Tears and eat the Tower and pull out a Blade EFB? That would suck, so hope not. And we should pay the cost, because our current situation surely qualifies as an emergency. Perhaps not utmost. Certainly not Uttermost. But at least utmore. And far beyond Ut.

The silver lining of that cloud is that our desperation makes the Ring happy, so we should be getting some picks soon. After the danger, but since the danger is neverending after is also before! Progression OP.

So is the Forebear- Hunger's perspective on the powers locked in the Blade is different from mine. They're obviously present, but I hadn't considered them closer to hand than any other advancement (because OoC, they aren't). But to Hunger, all that power is already there, just waiting for him to yank it out. It must be a comfort, he has few enough of those.
Gisena tapped her chin. "In that case, I think it's our best lead! We didn't really have a plan besides relying on your Pressure and this is what it gave us. If it's not enough, we'll just have to pull out all the stops! Maybe I can awaken to some secret powers as well?"

"What a terrible plan," Hunger shook his head. "If only we had some kind of genius around to ensure our plans were good!"

"A genius is still limited by the nature of her implements! I'm sure I could build you a Royalist Lens if we had half a week to spare..."

"And take away my scouter?" He clutched the Decimation Lens protectively. "I know your Truth-scanning has only limited bandwidth. Mitigating the Decimator is a highly productive function."

"In that case," Gisena said cheerfully, "I suppose we're relying on a food-stall vendor to connect us to the forces of the Princess!"

"I suppose we are." Hunger squared his shoulders and returned to the hawker.
Come on, Gisena! When we call you a genius, that means you're supposed to be a deus ex machina to solve all of our problems! Now you say it doesn't work like that? What do we even pay you for- oh yeah, we don't. Well, fair enough.

The shame is real, though. It's embarrassing to not be in control of your own destiny, especially since Hunger didn't spend the Arete to make this happen. But don't dwell on it, especially because it's a good thing! And not a trap. (psst, it's a trap, everything is terrible). At least the Vendor is a cool character worth the word count. And Hunger likes Gisena's present, it's a good sign for their relationship. "Highly productive" is Hunger speak for "Thank you Gisena, you are the best."

We need divination, this shame must serve as a lesson. Might there be an All-Divining Stance? Save us, Forebear.

I wonder how much I should read into Gisena's teasing about her own secret powerups. Surely she's not close to a breakthrough so soon after the last one? And we can't buy RW unless she does that first. She did spend a week in Verschlengorge, so maybe she's whipped up something nice? And since we don't have any on-screen information on it, that leaves us free to retroactively spend Arete on it. Bleh, but also yay? Can never have enough of that stuff.
The man gave him a weathered smile. "So, what did your better half say?"

"We like your food and believe in your vision. Let's bring genuine inspiration back to this nation again. I suppose we'd be some flavor of public relations consultant?"

"You read my mind! Yes, that description fits perfectly."
Ha, "flavor." Get it, because he sells food. If you did, you're smarter than I am, because I only now realized the terrible, terrible joke. His compliment is good, on the other hand. It's so good that I'm going to steal it. Whenever someone does something nice for me, there can only be one response; "I like your food and believe in your vision." Bam, instant friendship.

These blatant euphemisms are entertaining. If the public doesn't like Adorie, we'll relate to them with our sword until they do. Hunger sure is good at his job, no matter what it is, as long as he can hit people. It's a skill with surprisingly broad application.
After he finished with the lunch rush, the vendor lead them through twisting corridors of older construction. They walked for nearly fifteen minutes - a fairly long distance given the superhuman capabilities of all involved - to reach a dilapidated wooden door overgrown by a trellis of vines.
Ah, yes. The fate of the nation is important, but you can't just skip out on the lunch rush. I suppose it'd be suspicious to do so, but I'm antsy and LP has us pegged anyway. But things must be done properly! Just like the secret hideout is appropriately sketchy, this is approved by the Myth Foundation. Maybe not so secret, though- isn't Nilfel having a bit of a space crisis? There shouldn't be too many abandoned buildings, if that's true. Hm.

Like with Gisena after the blood buffs came online, I struggle to visualize "superhuman walking." Accretion based Agi doesn't care about physics, so I shouldn't even bother trying to understand it. Hunger goes brrr.
Gisena blinked, eyes green. "Spatial magic, and powerful. Rather more formal and concrete than most of the energies here!"

The vendor nodded. "The Lord Protector thought he'd closed all of these passageways, but there's a few that only the tower staff and garrison knew about. This'll take you straight to the Princess and the Opalescent Tower itself. She can make our case better than I ever could. Go on, she knows to be expecting you."
Ohhh, wow. I feel more dumb for forgetting Gisena's magesight now, there was a whole envy joke and everything. And the Elixir analysis. Moving on. I'm not sure what the importance of the magic being "formal" (organized?) is. I didn't even know that was a thing you could see. More reason to grab Philosopher's Wreath, I want cool magic discussions.

There is zero chance that the Protector doesn't know about this, even without knowing it's a trap. For the Accursed's sake, Gisena was like "cool, space magic" in a single glance! And she's a genius, but she isn't the only one who could do that. To say nothing of how "the tower staff and garrison" is more than a few people, any of which could have slipped up. Or perhaps not, if there was some binding magic on them. Since the Vendor isn't dumb, that must be it.

How did the Princess know we'd be coming? Some magic of the Tower, of her own, or did the Vendor call her on his cell phone? It's more dramatic not to know. Gotta build hype for Adorie the Adorieble- as the Vendor says, the wait is part of the experience. Good to know that our prospective allies stick to their values.
Aobaru scoffed. "Why should a King wait on the whims of a princess? My teacher's way more important than this girl. Let her know we'll be through when we're well and ready!"

"A king?" The vendor blinked slowly. An amused smile crept up his face. "Traveling so far from his kingdom? Well, I suppose stranger things have happened. You will find a stalwart ally in Nilfel, your majesty, should you restore our princess to her rightful crown."
Yooooouuuuu idiot. Sometimes I wonder about that boy. I want to appreciate him sticking up for us, but simultaneously blowing our cover and insulting our hosts for no reason far overshadows that. The Princess of Nilfel is not just "some girl!" Even the Tyrant has more tact than that, when he cares to. And Hunger is only "more important" than her because of Progression, the Kingship has nothing to do- well, I was going to say that the Princess of a superpower is > a King of a backwater, but she's locked in a Tower so maybe not in this case. But still. Manners. Learning those is actually one of the duties of a squire... so when we bust out those lessons, Aobaru will have brought it on himself in more than one way. Lesson one: Don't be a dick.

Fortunately, this old man isn't so easily insulted, and this information might actually be better shared, if it improves our negotiating position. Or helps us relate, same thing. Was this planned ahead of time, and Aobaru wasn't being a shit? Nah, I doubt it.
"Is there something wrong with a King waiting on the whims of a Princess?" Gisena asked innocently, looking at Aobaru. "Shouldn't princesses exist to be spoiled and pampered by kings?"

"What you two get up to on your own time is your business," Aobaru said. "Don't involve me in that stuff!"

"We are supposed to be incognito," Hunger observed dryly. "Though I appreciate your enthusiasm in standing up for me, squire. And despite your total lack of operational awareness, you are correct. Kings exist to be figureheads to be spoiled by Princesses, especially Princesses Regent, who do all the paperwork for them."

"How repressive!" Gisena pouted. "You're doing a better job of being tyrannical already!'

He shrugged. "Practice makes perfect."
Quick, deploy all the banter to distract from how totally Aobaru screwed up! The bantest, even. No more than a mild scolding for now, but next training session is sure to be brutal- unfortunately, since we're going to have to up the intensity in response to his destiny, it's not really a punishment. But he's old enough to correct his behavior with an explanation, punishment is overrated anyway. Go easy on the poor idiot.

That'd be an interesting addition to the Banquet of Kings- to be a king is to spoil a princess. It's not the worst answer, even! I'd call out Aobaru for having a dirty mind, but no, it's clearly Gisena. I take back what I said about punishment, she needs paperwork dumped on her so she can cool off. If this is tyranny, so be it!

But seriously Aobaru, what the hell are you doing.
 
[X] Into the Breach
[X] Priority Two
[X] All-Defeating Stance

Yeah, in a good day we can earn 14 Arete in one update now, which means we can afford to buy ADS - we had plenty of omakes and discussion since we last seen our Arete count. There's something to be said about harder Decimator target, but I think winning and more now when we're still in danger will compensate for that.
 
Do our maimings and conditions count as wound penalties? How about lack of access to quickening stats while in second form? That would be quite good, when dead an bloodless our blood bonuses are doubled instead of removed so long as we didn't suicide.

Some do. The effects that don't count as wound penalties will still show up depending on the power and versatility of foes.
 
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