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[X] The Ring of Power - Avenger

Pretty much assure victory over Sten either by being overwhelmingly faster than him to Cut Through in the Age option or social him to giving up in Treachery. It also powers up us against the remaining Immortals in case we don't kill them before they get their powers back.
 
[X] Fierce Quickening
[X] Honing
[X] Age

Avenger feels very specific to exactly this context. And only this context. I'd rather not buy something to guarentee a win here and only here if something else will also do the job.
 
Man, that title is such a troll. Ya actually had me worried for a minute there Rihaku.

So, we're worse for wear, so is Sten, Eva's dead, and we're on a time limit before we run out of blood buffs and therefore die.

A low-cost strategy would be Treachery with Honing. A more expensive strat is Age with Avenger or Headsman. Full Passion into Hateful Might exists, not sure it stands up to Avenger and Headsman in power though. Pearlescence is technically an option, but I'm not sure full Protection will really help here.

There's a rank option, but it's hard to come up with a build using it that's any good.
 
[X] Forebear's Blade - Headsman

3-pick good.
 
Tyrant_Rayne said:
I feel headsman is the sure win option. The problem is if we're willing to give up our ranged abilities forever
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There are ways to unseal blade-projections in the mid-far future. Plus you do have edeldross now! You can knock enemies towards you, throw the physical blade, or just develop Ranged attack Graces!

SpectatingRaven said:
[X] The Ring of Power - Avenger

Pretty much assure victory over Sten either by being overwhelmingly faster than him to Cut Through in the Age option or social him to giving up in Treachery. It also powers up us against the remaining Immortals in case we don't kill them before they get their powers back.
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Hunger will be able to stomp the remaining Immortals if he kills Sten, so you don't have to worry about that!
 
Rihaku said:
Yeah, though it's not that useful against enemies Hunger has to proactively hunt. Still, it should work on many Apocryphal procs... if they harm you substantially first.
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@Rihaku

The sentence is grammatically ambiguous. You've made it clear that it works against enemies who have harmed the wielder of the Ring, or the wielder's kin... but does it work against enemies who have harmed their own kin?

That was actually my first thought on reading the option, because Sten just beat his own son to death shortly before we attacked. Of course, that would be a highly situational bonus!
 
Fight was brutal and fast-paced, I loved it. But Hunger, how could you have been "everything according to keikaku" when you sacrificed your arm when it was the one with the Ring on it.

Headsman seals bladewind spam? But that's my favorite. : (

Oh, wait, Knife is a 1-Pick! My eyes passed right over 'cause I assumed things. Nice. Could get that and Dominon/Preeminence for .7 more Rank.

Avenger seems the obvious choice, though. Why make it hard on ourselves? Long-term planning is for people who aren't currently fighting Sten. So, for the moment

[X] The Ring of Power - Avenger
[X] Age
 
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Byzantine said:
[X] Fierce Quickening
[X] Honing
[X] Age

Avenger feels very specific to exactly this context. And only this context. I'd rather not buy something to guarentee a win here and only here if something else will also do the job.
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We'd get another 3/4 picks from Sten to compensate, and it'll be useful against the Immortals who will invariably have regained their strength. It secures safety and victory much more than FQ and Honing do. Admittedly, both are good options, though.
 
Sharkey_smt said:
People, lets not be dicks and drive an old demented fool insane. At least grant him the mercy of death
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AZURE: No.

Byzantine said:
[X] Fierce Quickening
[X] Honing
[X] Age

Avenger feels very specific to exactly this context. And only this context. I'd rather not buy something to guarentee a win here and only here if something else will also do the job.
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It's not entirely narrow, but it is much less versatile than general stats or abilities would be. Something like Headsman would be much more broadly applicable, or even Preeminence + Hateful Might (since it puts that Arete towards Ruling Ring). Hero-Defeating Stance + Fierce / Honing is also quite good and generally applicable.
 
[X] The Ring of Power - Dominion - 2 Arete
[X] The Ring of Power - Preeminence - 7 Arete
[X] The Ring of Power - Hateful Might

This seems a very effective option for the fight, I also like the theme.


[X] Treachery
 
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@Rihaku , would Avenger work on Ber?

Tyrant_Rayne said:
I feel headsman is the sure win option. The problem is if we're willing to give up our ranged abilities forever
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I, for one, do not. There are just plain too many situations where a ranged attack is valuable, and where the ability to Parry Good doesn't cancel it out.

SpectatingRaven said:
[] The Ring of Power - Avenger

Pretty much assure victory over Sten either by being overwhelmingly faster than him to Cut Through in the Age option or social him to giving up in Treachery. It also powers up us against the remaining Immortals in case we don't kill them before they get their powers back.
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Would the Avenger powerup work against them, though? They haven't personally harmed us or our kin yet...
 
Projectile said:
Fight was brutal and fast-paced, I loved it. But Hunger, how could you have been "everything according to keikaku" when you sacrificed your arm when it was the one with the Ring on it
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He had to sac his primary arm to sell it convincingly, Sten's no fool in his Worldkeeper form!

Projectile said:
Oh, wait, Knife is a 1-Pick! My eyes passed right over 'cause I assumed things. Nice. Could get that and Dominon/Preeminence for .7 more Rank.
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Yup, Knife is pretty nice. You don't have the Arete to take it alongside Preeminence and Dominion, though.
 
Talace said:
We'd get another 3/4 picks from Sten to compensate, and it'll be useful against the Immortals who will invariably have regained their strength. It secures safety and victory much more than FQ and Honing do. Admittedly, both are good options, though.
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Do note that it's been stated that Sten could fall to 3 or even 2 picks depending on our build here. Keep that in mind for any planning.

And with that, I'm off to sleep, because I'm already up way later then I should be if I want my sleep schedule, recently unfucked by sleep doctor visits, to stay unfucked.
 
[X] The Ring of Power - Avenger - 7 Arete -
[X] Age
Does killing our flesh and blood body count as wronging us? Because if so, this makes ghost form relevant again!
 
[X] The Ring of Power - Dominion - 2 Arete
[X] The Ring of Power - Preeminence - 7 Arete
[X] The Ring of Power - Hateful Might
[X] Age
 
Rihaku said:
Her evolution into self-proclaimed 'High Sorceress' had certainly augmented her powers; there was a nearly-tangible current of findross in her wake, a shimmering presence of something greater than mortal life. There was a capricious yet graceful quality to even her slightest movements, her beauty now almost cruelly captivating, every feature unbearably shapely and clear. Her sparkling green eyes caught him and she winked, daintily skipping over as the troops of House Alynne watched.
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Awww yeah, nice buffs Gisena! Appearance OP.
Rihaku said:
"Hey hun, did you miss me?" She asked sweetly, arms behind her back.

He frowned. "Stop showing off, we've got a Ring to save. Is that going to be permanent?" He nodded towards her aura of findross.


"Aww," Gisena pouted, extending her arms and twirling around. "Can't a girl celebrate just a little? I haven't had a makeover in ages! We've been traveling in such grueling conditions, too. And you needn't worry about the aura, it's just a side effect of my transformation! Should go away in a couple hours."

"Yes yes, you're the fairest of them all," he said dryly, forcing himself not to be distracted by her now-transfixing exquisiteness. He had parlayed with Lords and Ladies of the Fae that were nearly as beautiful, though that had been at the apex of his former might.

"Good, praise me more," Gisena said happily, coming around to take his arm. "So hun, what's the plan? Have you met any of the big, bad, Immortals mentioned in Aeira's papers?"

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Looks like we need to upgrade our social stats a bit to properly banter again, or maybe Hunger just needs a bit to get used to it? Also get wrecked Larissa.
Rihaku said:
"No," he shook his head, "You're going to deal with them for me."

"Hm? I've just shown up and I get handed all the work?"


"That's right. It's the reward for a job well-done."

Gisena giggled. "Then I suppose I can't complain. I did ask you to praise me more!"

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As per usual we make Gisena do all the hard work. smh.
Rihaku said:
Shit. The man was so strong that even a slight twitch of his foot sufficed to propel him at awesome speed. He'd waited until Hunger was midair to spring his trap.

No time for fancy work. Hunger struck one-handed with the Forebear's Blade directly at Sten's center of mass. Swiping with a single paw, Sten tore Hunger's arm off at the elbow, and reached out with his other hand to trap him within a crushing grapple.
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Hmm that seems less than ideal.
Rihaku said:
Hunger leapt back as Sten extricated himself from the chamber wall. Assessing himself, he finally realized that his Ring was still with his severed right arm; though diminished, he could feel its presence strongly.
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Very cool that the ring still counts as us wearing it even though our arm has been severed. I hope it's not going to grow a new Hunger out of the arm or something though.


Rihaku said:
Feat
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Rihaku said:
Knife 2 Arete
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Rihaku said:
. Adds .15 Rank, .2 with Uttermost.
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Isn't it sad, rank builds, look what they've done to your boy.


[X] The Ring of Power - Avenger
[X] Age - Cut him down as the span of years ought have.

Avenger seems ideal here, doubled physical stats should let us hilariously outspeed sten and the debuff should be pretty crippling stacked with blood debuff. It's also good in general depending on what "seriously wronged" constitutes and is especially good for our endgoal of vengeance.

I prefer Age because I'd rather this ended in a fight rather than convincing Sten to suicide or something.
 
[X] The Ring of Power - Avenger
[X] Treachery

I honestly just love the themes of Treachery more than age, and it has synergy with avenger since it also crits social attacks!
 
I'm curious about the wording on Headsman: "Seals the ability to launch blade projections and blade-winds."

Does that mean that we can turn the ability to launch blade winds on & off? Or does it mean that blade winds are DONE & they are replaced with the new features from the blurb

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Rihaku said:
There are ways to unseal blade-projections in the mid-far future. Plus you do have edeldross now! You can knock enemies towards you, throw the physical blade, or just develop Ranged attack Graces!
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