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A Simple Transaction I
- Thread starter Rihaku
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
Probably behind both their 2 arete-upgrades, if I had to bet.I wouldn't be surprised if there is a 7-arete advancement locked behind both complete Vigor and Quickening.
TwistedJester
Tired Lurker King
- Location
- Hell
Wow, just wow. We picked a new character to meet and she might not even get any screen time.
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
We have no indication this place actually has any money or valuables we can use elsewhere. It probably has magic items the Ring is being used to create, but I suspect they use them very quickly.
Also frankly once we get to the Ring stealth is irrelevant.
OctarineShrike
Avatar of Mandos
[X] Edeldross Adept
[X] +1 pick below
[X] +1 pick below
[X] Edeldross Adept
[X] +1 pick below
[X] +1 pick below
Murderhobo mentality means we always steal everything not nailed down, no matter how useful it is.
ImperatorV
The Laughing One
- Location
- The Voyaging Realm
[X] Edeldross Adept
[X] +1 pick below
I'm pretty sure there's nothing that competes with Edeldross Adept for sheer power. It's pretty cheap too for only 2 Arete, for those that like saving.
Shadowlord is the only other option I'd consider comparable, and I should note that Shadowlord wastes one of our apocryphal-free days. This is a big deal, remember we're trying Temple infiltration now, which will likely take a few days before we're trusted with the good stuff.
And what do you guys think will happen if the Apocryphal Curse kicks in, while we're smack dab in the middle of an enemy base that we've lied our way in to?
Shadowlord could try to sneak out of trouble, admittedly, but in that kind of situation I'd much rather have a truckload of raw power, or avoid the situation entirely by not wasting free days!
[X] +1 pick below
I'm pretty sure there's nothing that competes with Edeldross Adept for sheer power. It's pretty cheap too for only 2 Arete, for those that like saving.
Shadowlord is the only other option I'd consider comparable, and I should note that Shadowlord wastes one of our apocryphal-free days. This is a big deal, remember we're trying Temple infiltration now, which will likely take a few days before we're trusted with the good stuff.
And what do you guys think will happen if the Apocryphal Curse kicks in, while we're smack dab in the middle of an enemy base that we've lied our way in to?
Shadowlord could try to sneak out of trouble, admittedly, but in that kind of situation I'd much rather have a truckload of raw power, or avoid the situation entirely by not wasting free days!
[X] Edeldross Adept
[X] +1 pick below
When considering the upgrade to our buff- enabling a boost of 30-45%- also keep in mind that we can apply that very same buff to our allies as well; as a fundamental effectiveness multiplier for the whole team, it's just good value!
plus, we can start getting our sword graces even faster
[X] +1 pick below
When considering the upgrade to our buff- enabling a boost of 30-45%- also keep in mind that we can apply that very same buff to our allies as well; as a fundamental effectiveness multiplier for the whole team, it's just good value!
plus, we can start getting our sword graces even faster
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Yeah, of course.
[X] +1 pick below
[X] Edeldross Adept
Gib stats. Although I have a pretty massive dislike for Edeldross, this is just too disgusting not to pick.
Duquette7
I am Fire, and I am Rain
What do we know about the Theft stat? It was offered as part of the King of Thieves if I recall, and was a pretty big deal, but that was before my time, and I don't know how much of the value of that option was the stats, or the esoterics, just that Rihaku holds it up as one of our missed opportunities.
The stat line for Shadowlord is absurd, 30% Agi and Manip, 7 stealth, 4 theft, 100% Crit from stealth, and ties Protection to stealth.
If either of Stealth or Theft are truly good stats, this would be a bad one to miss out on, but again I wasn't around for the debate last time they were offered, could someone elaborate?
The stat line for Shadowlord is absurd, 30% Agi and Manip, 7 stealth, 4 theft, 100% Crit from stealth, and ties Protection to stealth.
If either of Stealth or Theft are truly good stats, this would be a bad one to miss out on, but again I wasn't around for the debate last time they were offered, could someone elaborate?
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
This is true.
Also if we are bringing her with us as long as we avoid getting her killed we can probably make this deal later. Like, after we finish the Temple we can probably go slay the Rotbeast and then just hand her the reward in exchange. Assuming we don't get attached.
The boost is +10%/reliability and bursts of +25% over the baseline. Not a straight increase of 30%.
- Location
- Pindorama
Shadowlord does give increased utility to the +Protection advancements of the Evening Sky now that they have been deprecated by Uttermost, which people have been complaining about. And unlocking new stats also means unlocking improvements for them in the future, as well. But since we will have Shadowcord with us to cover this anyway, I'm kind of eh on it? Don't know what to vote for here.
We had 12.5 when you reviewed yesterday,. we definitely have more now.
Rihaku
The Internet
Smashing is an unskilled means of combat. Being too unskilled to cut through is an excuse. Instead, simply cut through.
You're asking if the spar qualified for Preeminence?
Indeed! Though the wraith-form will lack a lot of AGI, if you have enough +Stealth from the cloak that won't matter much.
Such is the price of power!
Looks like this gives 3 might, 2 charisma, and 11(!) protection. A pretty solid pick.
If I'm reading this right, this upgrades the stat boost from 20% to 50% for boss fights, and 20% to 30% for general purpses. Gives the most stats of any option, AND doubles future advancement.
Percentage boosts are always good, especially since this one, unlike Edeldross, can't be dispelled. It would also be extremely helpful for infiltration. The additional day of fighting might yield a pick or two if we're lucky enough to meet a prime or the big guy himself.
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[X] Edeldross Adept
[X] +1 pick below
Edeldross adept and Shadowlord are both quite good. Shadowlord's critical hit, agility boost, and stealth make it the perfect answer to the temple infiltration. It's also a more visually interesting power with better thematics. If they were the same price I'd go Shadowlord, but 7 Arete is too much.
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- Location
- Omniverse #1345
That's a bit less useful with Vigor Incarnate being offered, though.
It's probably something to grab next time we have an offer that doesn't have anything super compelling at hand, like the ones from last time. The protection increase is utterly insane.
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Shadowlord doesn't need to waste time trying to be trusted with the keys of the kingdom though, it can sneak in instead.
Vigor Incarnate takes care of our Protection issue and with how the thread has been going I doubt people will vote for upgrading Evening Sky to get +Protection.
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Rihaku
The Internet
King of Thieves also gave free scaling to +Stealth and +Theft every time you got Experience. It's somewhat different from Shadowlord, which has a lot more immediate power (and doesn't reduce future mage options), but less scaling.
Correct.
And I haven't reviewed yet!
