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[X] Forebear's Blade - Dreadnought's Bearing
-[X] Rune King

How about some defense and To Shatter Heaven bonuses for Sword Praxis and the winning magic system? I remember that Dreadnought's Bearing is rarer than Stranglethorn plus offer some immediate mitigation to the True Maiming condition in case people want to fight the main Rotbeast.

Also I wonder can we apply Linear Halo to Accretion to develop advancements that way Rihaku?
 
@Rihaku, we already have Domain: War for the Ring, don't we? That's what we bought before setting out on the vacation? Should the pick option be edited to indicate that?
 
I'm kinda surprised this didn't give an instant rank boost, considering how ridiculously outmatched we apparently were.

@Rihaku: Was it because we took Cut Through in the middle of the fight that we didn't get an automatic +rank from this?

agumentic said:
@Rihaku, we already have Domain: War for the Ring, don't we? That's what we bought before setting out on the vacation? Should the pick option be edited to indicate that?
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Nope. You managed to buy Vigor Itself instead of War for reasons I never figured out.
 
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[X] Forebear's Blade - Ruinous Valor (3 picks)
-[X] Zweihander

[X] Upgrade Letrizia's Magic (from 2 Arete-equivalent to 7-Arete equivalent)
[X] Check up on Letrizia
 
[X] Upgrade Letrizia's Magic (from 2 Arete-equivalent to 7-Arete equivalent)
[X] Check up on Gisena
[X] Prime
[X] Fierce Quickening
Amazing update Rihaku!! Thank you for letting us take Cut Through via dicussion consensus!
 
[X] Forebear's Blade - Ruinous Valor (3 picks)
-[X] Zweihander
[X] Upgrade Letrizia's Magic (from 2 Arete-equivalent to 7-Arete equivalent)
[X] Check up on Letrizia
 
@Rihaku is this Punctured Soul instance for a month, or permanent-until-healed?
Hmm, I continue to want Rune King, but we don't actually have the Arete for it...
[X] Forebear's Blade - Ruinous Valor (3 picks)
Even more scaling on our attacks (with Strength)? Hells yes!
[X] Upgrade Letrizia's Magic (from 2 Arete-equivalent to 7-Arete equivalent)
[X] Check up on Letrizia
 
I really do hope we see King Stands Alone again when we're in a position to take it. I mean, think about what it does against an Armament!
 
People, remember we will have a magic system vote after this! Any advancement we get can show up again, but if Surge won we only have one chance for a 7-Arete Imaginary Element!
[X] Upgrade Letrizia's Magic (from 2 Arete-equivalent to 7-Arete equivalent)
[X] Forebear's Blade - Ruinous Valor (3 picks)
-[X] Zweihander
[X] Check up on Letrizia

agumentic said:
we already have Domain: War for the Ring, don't we? That's what we bought before setting out on the vacation? Should the pick option be edited to indicate that?
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That's because we got Vigor Itself. However, the text of that option didn't update either...
 
[X] Forebear's Blade - Ruinous Valor (3 picks)
-[X] Zweihander

[X] Upgrade Letrizia's Magic (from 2 Arete-equivalent to 7-Arete equivalent)
[X] Check up on Letrizia
 
George said:
that was before he learned what it means to Cut Through, however
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Rihaku can only argue against his own character's demands so well. We didn't exactly see much of Hunger's thoughts after we got Cut Through, but the fact remains it will be harder to wield the sword with one hand, even if we can compensate for that with Praxis ability.
 
Rihaku said:
[X] Cut Through, [X] Study the Blade and [X] Hot Springs has won. Overexertion has torn your spirit and its bodily template. Suffer the effects of Punctured Soul with the penalties halved, and the physical penalty halved again due to Quickening. The Hot Springs has cured your Chill of the Grave and Lingering Paralysis conditions.
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Finally, the EFB arrives! An amazing update.

Well, I suppose that we traded a bad roll for a good one, here? Disregarding our survival roll.

[X] Upgrade Letrizia's Magic (from 2 Arete-equivalent to 7-Arete equivalent)
[X] Forebear's Blade - Ruinous Valor (3 picks)
-[X] Zweihander
[X] Check up on Letrizia

The meme opportunity. It's here.

I think the upgrade far outclasses the other two options. A pick is good, but doesn't add as much as 5 free virtual arete, especially if Ruinous Valor is the pick. This might be a different story if we could take another 2 Pick, but there's only one worthwhile one here. A reroll is as good as it normally is, but again, less value. Especially if we aren't just fighting the Rotbeast next update. I picked Letrizia for check up, because I guess it's good to keep an eye out for her, if we're investing this much.

Ruinous Valor is both necessary to get the most out of Uttermost and good with Cut Through and other sword options. Martial Stances also open up some good options.

If you were going to take something else, I imagine that it would be Prime + a one pick, probably either The King Stands Alone, Dominion: War, or one of the blood advancements. I'm not a fan of Dreadnought here, especially since we're moving towards Ruling Ring next. Just seems inefficient, especially since people would prefer Rune King, giving up our eye for TSH, which I'm not interested in. And taking 3 1 Picks seems obviously foolish, due to how XP works.

I'm not a big fan of any of the 2 + 1 Pick suggestions, really. The King Stands alone is good for our build, and maybe rare, but strikes me as just a different flavor of Hero-Defeating Stance (though the +Willpower is nice). I'd rather save Arete for the next EFB in this time we've bought ourselves. Dominion: War is a step in the right direction, but taking it before taking Ruinous Valor is bad ordering, because it starts towards our next EFB without getting the thing we need to make our current one maximally viable (two arms). And taking Prime + an ordinary 1 pick that we can get at any time seems like a waste, when 3 pick options are theoretically much riskier to obtain.
 
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So this was pretty interesting, you rolled the single Primary Rotspawn you had the absolute worst matchup against, arguably worse than the Rotbeast itself (which has higher Rank, but is slow af). Given Hunger's reckless personality the most likely cause of encountering it would be killing so many Elites that it's dispatched to stop him, which is what happened here.

Anyway guys, there are a number of rare or unique Advancements this time, so consider carefully before picking. Hunger doesn't need the luxury of two arms to Cut, whereas some of these effects might well be necessary in the mid future depending on the enemies you make.

George said:
[X] Upgrade Letrizia's Magic (from 2 Arete-equivalent to 7-Arete equivalent)
[X] Check up on Gisena
[X] Prime
[X] Fierce Quickening
Amazing update Rihaku!! Thank you for letting us take Cut Through via dicussion consensus!
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The first part of the encounter was somewhat meandering (Hunger just kills a bunch of Elites), but the second part tied in well with the Cut Through acquisition. It made narrative sense too so this was a good opportunity for Hunger to have that character development.

BrainInAJar said:
That's because we got Vigor Itself. However, the text of that option didn't update either...
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Why would it update? You're not maxed.
Byzantine said:
I really do hope we see King Stands Alone again when we're in a position to take it. I mean, think about what it does against an Armament!
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Or you could not risk it and just take it now!
 
Also: We've taken both Fierce Quicking and Vigor Itself once, so we can taken both twice more.

Rihaku said:
Or you could not risk it and just take it now!
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Ha! You just tacitly admitted it isn't entirely unique! :V. (You haven't hesitated to say that when it's come up in the past).

The Unique one is probably the Rank upgrade, which is impressive.
 
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Hm, does Rune King apply to Sword Praxis techniques? Because if so, there's really no excuse for picking Sharp of Eye if we take Dreadnought. Also, The King Stands Alone is the name of an option from An End to Innocence back in Most High. More Odyssial references and details about the nature of reality, the firmament-blue that lies beyond the ephemera of the Lower World.

Seems an apt moment for a KSBD quote too: "A sword is not your lover. It is a hideous tool for separating men from their vital fluids."
 
[X] Forebear's Blade - Ruinous Valor (3 picks)
-[X] Zweihander
[X] The King Stands Alone - 7 Arete
[X] +1 pick below
[X] Check up on Letrizia

Testing out some shiny new software! Trying some dithering to make gradients nicer, please don't look at Hunger's sausage hand or lack of body.

 
Well, Cut Through lived up to its name - Murder, even if it cannot be murdered.

Loved the fight, also really appreciated the aesthetic of cutting through reality to leave only pure blue in our wake. Very evocative and reminiscent of Suizhen's Sky-Splitting Blade which was also pretty cool.

Sword Praxis was definitely worth the hype and it delivered precisely the kind of imagery and thematic resonance in Hunger's character I was hoping for.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to calm myself down after reading that sick fight scene. :V
 
Seriously people do we really need the added offence to pass up a rare advancement that will boost the poor defences of Hunger? Remember that with Dreadnought's Bearing we can start getting countermeasures against exotic capabilities of our opponents.
 
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