o-oh. uh. I thought Uttermost was losing so I made a thing for it, uh. Here it is anyway? My condolences, Unerring/Librarians, you fought valiantly and I genuinely thought you guys had this in the bag
The fact that you guys both wanted it was the impetus for the last-minute betrayal, with art comes Arete. Beautiful picture, just what the doctor ordered to cut through those pesky regrets.
 
Are you fucking kidding me? Is the pull of memes so strong that you guys actually want to risk dying because of a Devastating Condition for the sake of fucking fish?

Just wait three days, holy Christ.
Live by the meme, die by the meme. If you guys weren't so gun-ho about SORD maybe this could have been avoided. C'mon, it will certainly be amazing!

Also the sweet Arete beckons. It's too strong.

Hey, do you guys want to hear an interesting fact??? It turns out that competitions...have rules! Which we can't follow! And will never, ever follow!

Literally the thread's last build vote has locked us out of fishing competitions being a good idea. Ever.
I want a refund. failing that, the memes will be good too.
 
Fellow Ring voters! While Dominion: War, is cool, I would like to ask if Passion is rarer than War! If so, would it not make more sense to take Passion now, and get Dominion: War from a relatively more common opponent?
Preeminence: Passion has been mentioned as being rare, iirc. For Dominion, we've been able to take either War or Passion in every vote so far.
Hey, do you guys want to hear an interesting fact??? It turns out that competitions...have rules! Which we can't follow! And will never, ever follow!

Literally the thread's last build vote has locked us out of fishing competitions being a good idea. Ever.
Logically speaking, "Fishing" is defined with regards to certain constraints... constraints which Hunger is passionate about following. Doom of the Tyrant only specifies that Hunger cannot be in a subordinate social role. It does not say that we must upend every power structure we encounter:

[ ] Doom of the Tyrant - You absolutely refuse to submit to, or even acknowledge the legitimacy of, any rule, custom, law or authority above your own, unless that authority is at least as powerful as a specific instruction from the Accursed himself. Your ability to operate within the context of any organization you are not unequivocally in charge of is utterly crippled. Diplomacy is a laughable dream.
Emphasis mine. It is our own rule, custom, law, and authority that compels us to fish. We are specifically interested in succeeding in capturing an aquatic animal while using the subset of skills and abilities permitted by the activity "fishing."

There is a risk of rejecting a silly custom like having to donate our catch, but it is not a certainty of disaster as you suggest here.
 
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The point about rules and Tyrant is pertinent, I'm not sure how official any actual rules would be though, considering the menagerie of inhabitants in the encampment. If Hunger just dunks on everyone and brings in the most impressive catch while paying no attention to the unspoken precedent I don't actually think it would be a huge deal.
 
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Okay, so we just now, minutes ago, won a huge vote for the sword-enthusiast voters. Let's throw a bone to the rest and pick up the Ring of Power here. We can save some of our Arete while building towards an EFB, that's a pretty good deal. Plus, if we heal Versh, we can get a couple more 1-2 picks; we might be able to get Opalescence and Iridescence and have less shitty defenses!

[X] Heal Verschlengorge
[X] The Ring of Power
- Dominion - 2 Arete
-[X] Passion
 
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[X] Heal Verschlengorge

Hey Rihaku can we at least get fluff blurb for the Cut Through and what it can do now that Uttermost won? I want to know just what my Librarian powers lost to.
 
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We very well might be the strongest, but we don't know that and we also don't know if we're the strongest while Exhausted.

I suppose it's possible an inner resident will join the fishing contest, but that seems unlikely.

What you are describing is just us going fishing on our own, but worse in almost every way.
Then we submit to never winning the Official Fishing Contest, just Hunger's personal contest that others may partake in.

Except for the part where we get the biggest fish and everyone else goes home a loser?

The greatest pleasure is to outfish your enemies and humiliate them before you, to rob them of their fish and see their bait bathed in tears, to ride their fishing boats and clasp to your bosom their fishing rods and nets.

Anyways, it's possible the only rule will be "Biggest fish wins" and there won't be an issue.
 
[X] Vacation
[X] Null Slice

I'm excited to find out that we can gain Gisena based powerups! We might not have enough arete for it but that won't stop me voting for the Gisena unlock tree!

Vacation to have a short family holiday before we have to get back to murdering things. Let our daughteru spend some time doing things more interesting than waiting and let Gisena show off her newly increased appearance!
 
[X] Slack Off
doctor's orders say bedrest here
[X] The Ring of Power - Dominion
I guess we should finish the ring? judging by the blood options ++Progression should be rather impressive, at least for stats

[ ] Exalted Spirit - 2 Arete. Conjunctional [Hunger, Evening Sky]. Mind made vigorous as the body. Gain +Int, +Wits, +Wis, +Cha, -Heartlessness, while in a form with physical blood. Allies under blood enhancement gain +Int, +Cha. Blood enhancement requires physical blood.
doubly worse because gisena's advancement is over and our Defining Advancement nerfs this
seeing it now just saddens me
 
[X] Heal Verschlengorge

I don't care which build option we pick but I really, really want to patch up the mecha. The plan to get a bit of boost off of killing Astral beasts sounds good, and having Verschlengorge be actually powerful enough to contribute when we fight Ber sounds good too.
 
Emphasis mine. It is our own rule, custom, law, and authority that compels us to fish. We are specifically interested in succeeding in capturing an aquatic animal while using the subset of skills and abilities permitted by the activity "fishing."

There is a risk of rejecting a silly custom like having to donate our catch, but it is not a certainty of disaster as you suggest here.

We're compelling ourselves to fish with the desire to fish, but that says absolutely nothing about following the rules of a contest. A normal person might trivially accept some minor inconveniences from rule following for the pleasure of participating in a contest. Hunger will not. Again, this is just fishing by ourselves but much worse.

And also risky, seeing as we'd be doing this in the three day window where we shouldn't be potentially provoking trouble.

Why the fuck did we take a permanent wound with a shorter concerted debuff period instead of the weaker debuff that we could immediately act with if all of you are just going to immediately go out and do the riskiest possible shit?
 
[X] Vacation
[X] Null Slice

I'm excited to find out that we can gain Gisena based powerups! We might not have enough arete for it but that won't stop me voting for the Gisena unlock tree!

Vacation to have a short family holiday before we have to get back to murdering things. Let our daughteru spend some time doing things more interesting than waiting and let Gisena show off her newly increased appearance!
you should at least vote Fishing Contest to get half a point closer
 
Preliminary vote count?

Can we sewer wounds from our allies with this, @Rihaku?

Yes, but it's complicated. Cutting something away doesn't destroy it, so the wound will 'bounce' to the closest + weakest target. You can however learn to 'deflect' it towards your preferred targets, but powerful opponents can easily contest this if they're aware. Also, you do have the Ring of Blood for healing.

*Falls to knees* How could you do this to us Rihaku? You know that fishing is our only weakness!

It's Hunger's passion! Don't you want to get Preeminence: PASSION?

I'd also be hype for Quickening or Vigor itself

Both would be useful when fishing.

Fishing contest is required.

I thought the plan was to stop taking insane risks? Hmph. I suppose the lure of the Mondo Bait is as strong as ever...

Save (Arete) or work toward one of our EFBs at least in some way would be my preference. Ring or Sword options are all fine.

You need only SAVE 14 more Arete for an EFB-equivalent!

He's basically a Fishing Enthusiast, and nothing else.

Let's not understate things. He has a problem.

Gisena may need to stage an intervention.

Either or Passion or War should apply to the fishing contest and this gets us back on the road of building toward Ruling Ring. We're wiser now, with the benefit of hindsight surely we won't make the same mistakes as last time?

What mistakes? All I see are fond memories of a truly delicious fish.

o-oh. uh. I thought Uttermost was losing so I made a thing for it, uh. Here it is anyway? My condolences, Unerring/Librarians, you fought valiantly and I genuinely thought you guys had this in the bag

Nice, looks great!
 
[X] Heal Verschlengorge

I don't care which build option we pick but I really, really want to patch up the mecha. The plan to get a bit of boost off of killing Astral beasts sounds good, and having Verschlengorge be actually powerful enough to contribute when we fight Ber sounds good too.
We took super sword so we can just kill middle temple residents which should be stronger than the rank 5 astral beasts it attracts.
 
[X] The Ring of Power - Dominion
-[X] War
[X] Heal Verschlengorge

Preliminary vote for War Machine, how's that for a cool vote name. The fishing contest is probably not going to end terribly, but I feel compelled to counteract the meme rampage anyway, chill out guys.
 
Guys, what would be better to take Hunger's mind of the Temple than indulging in his favorite pastime? It's the slice of life episode we've all been waiting for after the non-stop action of the Temple! There's no way anything could go wrong!

So I'm going to sleep, and if fishing isn't winning by the time I wake up I will be very disappointed!
 
Guys, what would be better to take Hunger's mind of the Temple than indulging in his favorite pastime? It's the slice of life episode we've all been waiting for after the non-stop action of the Temple! There's no way anything could go wrong!

So I'm going to sleep, and if fishing isn't winning by the time I wake up I will be very disappointed!
It doesn't give +Gisena this time though? Unless we get a future option for it to give it our all maybe? Using Fell Handed Strike to fish is probably rules legal right?
 
We're compelling ourselves to fish with the desire to fish, but that says absolutely nothing about following the rules of a contest. A normal person might trivially accept some minor inconveniences from rule following for the pleasure of participating in a contest. Hunger will not. Again, this is just fishing by ourselves but much worse.

And also risky, seeing as we'd be doing this in the three day window where we shouldn't be potentially provoking trouble.

Why the fuck did we take a permanent wound with a shorter concerted debuff period instead of the weaker debuff that we could immediately act with if all of you are just going to immediately go out and do the riskiest possible shit?

It would be an even greater risk to leave these fish alone and allow them to gather strength and power. It's best if we cut them down immediately, before the apocryphal curse can use them against us.

It's Hunger's passion! Don't you want to get Preeminence: PASSION?

I'm saving that pick for the post-fishing victory celebration and dinner.
 
Excellent round everyone, I'm glad we get a pit stop vote here before the next big slobberknocker.

[X] Heal Verschlengorge
[X] The Ring of Power - Dominion
-[X] Passion

These new fangled fishing memes are pretty great, but I genuinely believe another go in the pond will kill us! I'm gonna fall back to the tried and true R E D.
 
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