The usual cure is to not bother. Just waste manpower cleaning up every flood season, since the floods rejuvenate the fields and gives them an effect comparable to fertilizers with natural phenomenon alone.
Tales of History - A Civ-Builder Quest
- Thread starter Azel
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- Chile
That's actually what saved some semblance of civilisatoon in Egypt after the Bronze Collapse. The Nile was still restoring the soil while what used to be Summer was a bunch of crusted salt. Not sure if Brushcrest's river works the same way though.
Thing is, we might be somewhat pop capped now bar a few chair rearanging and incremental progress, the point that I was trying to make earlier is that that's not nessesarily a bad thing.
As long as we keep a decently pro army and we keep turning the valley into a Fortress we are effectively invulnerable from outside. Siege trains aren't a thing in the Stone Age, any force to march up Greenvalley would have to storm the walls with ladders and take axes to the gatehouse (maybe a pine serving as a battering ram if the dice gods are angry). It's either that or starve because they cant keep their forces supplied. They'd need ten times our numbers, and even a little raiding by the White Clans could see such a humongous force starve because their foraging got cut by a third.
Sure we'd have to spend a turn or two rebuilding stuff outside the walls, but its not much in the grand scheme of things. We should keep spamming culture and tech, let the superior numbers of the Sowing People live in a miasma of plague and turmoil in the free for all that is the low lands.
Edit: Besides, spreading our religion and eventually culture throughout the mountains is in a way a form of upping our pop. The White Clans are a great asset that could be harnessed in a vareity of purposes down the line, the least of which is having a shitload of auxiliaries on reserve.
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- Location
- Voidbetweenstars
We are far to close to starving ever single turn, food tech will benefit if we expand to better farming areas.
- Location
- Chile
Food tech will get better if we try to farm in the valleys too, maybe we could even unlock terraces. Azel's tech system is very 'Necessity is the mother of invention'. In other words if we grapple and put enough effort and thought enough into a problem (obviously in a way that is not stupid) the metaphorical fruits should shake down with the tree. We just gotta shake it hard enough.
Salt saturating the soil is only a problem with irrigation. Natural flooding washes away excess nutrients while also adding new ones, but typically irrigated fields are left to evaporate in place, leading to dissolved salts buildup.
This is less of an issue when you are high upstream, the river simply doesn't have time to load up yet
Our numbers in the valley can grow even without farming, Orchards is listed as 4/5, gathering has a +20% (low area utilization) bonus and cattle raising is at 1/2. the list of possible buildings includes:
-[] More orchards (Cost: 1 Production)
-[] More fishing boats (Cost: 1 Production)
-[] More cattle pens (Cost: 1 Production)
So i think we can have a lot more living in the valley but should get some more food producers to increase population growth.
Edit if we want to focus on the valley for the while i want to make a silver mine our next project as that might lead to us developing other metalworking tech.
-[] More orchards (Cost: 1 Production)
-[] More fishing boats (Cost: 1 Production)
-[] More cattle pens (Cost: 1 Production)
So i think we can have a lot more living in the valley but should get some more food producers to increase population growth.
Edit if we want to focus on the valley for the while i want to make a silver mine our next project as that might lead to us developing other metalworking tech.
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Satar
Xetares, Third Redeemer; World Drinker
- Location
- Sesh
At the same time, no use putting all our eggs in one basket.
- Location
- Germany
THIS ATEN'T DED!
Between other commitments taking up more time then expected, a lot of drama, some real-life concerns, sickness and... stuff... I didn't really have time to write any updates here yet. Finally though, my weekend looks both free and relaxed enough to sit down and get back into the ToH flow.
Just thought I should say something before people keep floundering in the air here.
Between other commitments taking up more time then expected, a lot of drama, some real-life concerns, sickness and... stuff... I didn't really have time to write any updates here yet. Finally though, my weekend looks both free and relaxed enough to sit down and get back into the ToH flow.
Just thought I should say something before people keep floundering in the air here.
- Location
- Germany
Needless to say, the issues mentioned in the posts above this were ultimately too much for me to keep this quest going. Since then, my health improved greatly (even though this is an odd time to say so), time became less of an issue and I started a few more quests but those all kinda floundered pretty early on.
For the last few months, I've been seriously considering resurrecting this quest, last but not least because I still sometimes get questions about it. Originally I kept deciding against that, both because this thread had already been resurrected once and because it's... quite a bit old by now. However, it keeps bugging me, I keep gettinginspiredby the idea of a Civ-quest, so now I want to pose this question to the wider world, or at least everyone here who still gets alerts from this thread.
Meta-Vote: What should the QM do?
[] Resurrect Tales of History, for the glory of the Ancestors!
[] Let old bones rest in peace, but start a successor to Tales of History.
[] I'm not interested in either of those options.
For the last few months, I've been seriously considering resurrecting this quest, last but not least because I still sometimes get questions about it. Originally I kept deciding against that, both because this thread had already been resurrected once and because it's... quite a bit old by now. However, it keeps bugging me, I keep gettinginspiredby the idea of a Civ-quest, so now I want to pose this question to the wider world, or at least everyone here who still gets alerts from this thread.
Meta-Vote: What should the QM do?
[] Resurrect Tales of History, for the glory of the Ancestors!
[] Let old bones rest in peace, but start a successor to Tales of History.
[] I'm not interested in either of those options.
Well this is as unexpected as it is a pleasant surprise. 
As for the vote:
[X] Let old bones rest in peace, but start a successor to Tales of History.
I think a fresh start will do us all good in terms of narrative
As for the vote:
[X] Let old bones rest in peace, but start a successor to Tales of History.
I think a fresh start will do us all good in terms of narrative
- Location
- Hollister
[X] Let old bones rest in peace, but start a successor to Tales of History.
- Location
- Minnesota
[X] Let old bones rest in peace, but start a successor to Tales of History.
- Location
- Germany
[X] Resurrect Tales of History, for the glory of the Ancestors!
I'm still interested where this is going.
Besides, the gamestyle itself has potential for new starts, we just have to "loose" in our current form and carry on as the succeding entity.
I'm still interested where this is going.
Besides, the gamestyle itself has potential for new starts, we just have to "loose" in our current form and carry on as the succeding entity.
ThatGazzer
Minds Eye Bind
- Location
- PNW
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] Resurrect Tales of History, for the glory of the Ancestors!
We had something really cool going here, I'd like to see where we can take it.
We had something really cool going here, I'd like to see where we can take it.
- Location
- Earth, unfortunately
[X] Resurrect Tales of History, for the glory of the Ancestors!
[X] Let old bones rest in peace, but start a successor to Tales of History.
Either one's fine with me
[X] Let old bones rest in peace, but start a successor to Tales of History.
Either one's fine with me
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Walker Of Chaos
Best/Worst Dynasty
- Location
- Sweden
[X] Resurrect Tales of History, for the glory of the Ancestors!
I still wan't to create that horrific tributary empire damnit.
I still wan't to create that horrific tributary empire damnit.