Fate/White Parmesan

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[X] Action: Comply. Release Olga Marie Animusphere in exchange for Servant Rider.

Always Late said:
We only have a couple major battles ahead of us and Rider isn't going to stab us in the back. Beat this faker's ass.
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And those two battles will be waaay harder than this. We have Arjuna and warp-spasm Cu, that required Ruler use three Command seals to survive. We need everything we can save for that fight.
Always Late said:
If there's one thing we've learned from using Pandora's Box, it's that the rule of Fate enemies being harder to kill than cockroaches absolutely applies. Olga came back from taking a near-nuke to the face, and has almost gone full Zuko.

Olga must surrender. She must say the words, acknowledge the reality she's created. Otherwise she'll invent more delusions and keep trying.
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She's literally begging us to stop talking while weeping on the ground and we just broke one of her ribs. We just shoved every fear and insecurity in her face while blocking every attack she threw at us, all while psychologically torturing her.

She's had enough.
 
Keldin said:
And those two battles will be waaay harder than this. We have Arjuna and warp-spasm Cu, that required Ruler use three Command seals to survive. We need everything we can save for that fight.
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Problem: We're still in this fight. And releasing Olga for Rider just means we either reset the board for even more fighting now, or move Olga on to one of those other two fights. That's not solving the problem about a harder fight in the future, that's procrastination.
Keldin said:
She's literally begging us to stop talking while weeping on the ground and we just broke one of her ribs. We just shoved every fear and insecurity in her face while blocking every attack she threw at us, all while psychologically torturing her.

She's had enough.
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She hasn't ordered Assassin to stop. She hasn't said a word about this being enough.

Olga hasn't had enough, she just wants the pain to stop. That's the big difference here. I'd say prove to me Olga is going to withdraw from the war. Prove to me the robot-assassin's assessment of this just letting Olga go for a later battle is wrong.

But you can't. Because you're missing the key details.
 
Always Late said:
Olga hasn't had enough, she just wants the pain to stop. That's the big difference here. I'd say prove to me Olga is going to withdraw from the war. Prove to me the robot-assassin's assessment of this just letting Olga go for a later battle is wrong.

But you can't. Because you're missing the key details.
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"Change my mind."
"Also I've already decided you're wrong."


aight imma head out
 
[x] Action: Create a compromise. Olga Marie will be spared in exchange for Assassin killing herself.
 
Keldin said:
She's literally begging us to stop talking while weeping on the ground and we just broke one of her ribs. We just shoved every fear and insecurity in her face while blocking every attack she threw at us, all while psychologically torturing her.

She's had enough.
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And last time we fought her, we literally blew off her arm. Why on Earth do you think this won't just end up with her attacking us again. If you don't like the command seal vote, at least vote to threaten Camilla into committing suicide in exchange for Olga's life.
 
see that's aexactly why I included a line of attack that kept it focused on bad things she'd done rather than just wreaking balling her entire life.
 
Impstar said:
If you don't like the command seal vote, at least vote to threaten Camilla into committing suicide in exchange for Olga's life.
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Because Assassin has Rider hostage? Her response will either be "lol no" or "lol no u".

The first fight Assassin saw all of Riders tricks. Presumably Rider has now seen all of hers, and we've seen everything Olga can come up with and know we win in a straight Magus v Magus fight.

Next time we can run support/tactical for Rider while we're not separated from any allies and waiting for Archer to bring the building down on us. Also whatever intel Emiya managed to scrounge up while tracking her down.
 
Keldin said:
Because Assassin has Rider hostage? Her response will either be "lol no" or "lol no u".

The first fight Assassin saw all of Riders tricks. Presumably Rider has now seen all of hers, and we've seen everything Olga can come up with and know we win in a straight Magus v Magus fight.

Next time we can run support/tactical for Rider while we're not separated from any allies and waiting for Archer to bring the building down on us. Also whatever intel Emiya managed to scrounge up while tracking her down.
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Or we could just kill Olga and Assasin now, see if we can take her command seals and not take the risk of having an hostile Assasin trying to kill us during another servant fight. I don't see how letting her go helt us in this war.
 
[X] Action: Comply. Release Olga Marie Animusphere in exchange for Servant Rider.
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[] Action: Use a command seal. Restore Rider's health and allow her to escape Assassin's clutches.

is fine with me.

At this point, we're going to need Emiya to act as a counselor assuming Olga survives and is in Brie's custody.
 
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[X] Action: Use a command seal. Restore Rider's health and allow her to escape Assassin's clutches.
 
Keldin said:
Next time we can run support/tactical for Rider while we're not separated from any allies and waiting for Archer to bring the building down on us. Also whatever intel Emiya managed to scrounge up while tracking her down.
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And now she knows we can beat her in a straight fight, so next time she won't give us one. She'll attack us while we're attacking Archer, or maybe even Berserker if her new PTSD is enough to cause her to focus on the lesser threat (us).
 
Well that was a bit more than I was expecting. Boy howdy did it ever work though.

Always Late isn't wrong though, at this point if we just let her walk she's not going to internalize her mistakes. She's going to double down on the rationalization, convince herself we were lying, and try again. The girl is desperate, she needs us to be wrong, simplynso she can move forward. Therefore, we take her out of the war, though that need not mean we kill her here.

[X] Action: Create a compromise. Olga Marie will be spared in exchange for Assassin killing herself.
 
[X] Action: Create a compromise. Olga Marie will be spared in exchange for Assassin killing herself.
-[X] Should she refuse, use a command seal. Restore Rider's health and allow her to escape Assassin's clutches.
 
[X] Action: Create a compromise. Olga Marie will be spared in exchange for Assassin killing herself.
-[X] Should she refuse, use a command seal. Restore Rider's health and allow her to escape Assassin's clutches.
 
[X] Action: Create a compromise. Olga Marie will be spared in exchange for Assassin killing herself.
-[X] Should she refuse, use a command seal. Restore Rider's health and allow her to escape Assassin's clutches.
 
[X] Action: Create a compromise. Olga Marie will be spared in exchange for Assassin killing herself.
-[X] Should she refuse, use a command seal. Restore Rider's health and allow her to escape Assassin's clutches.
 
I like how Assassin also took the least optimal option and left her opponent alive instead of just committing sequential murder.

So I'm pretty confident we can make her do something stupid.

[X] Action: Create a compromise. Olga Marie will be spared in exchange for Assassin killing herself.
-[X] Should she refuse, use a command seal. Restore Rider's health and allow her to escape Assassin's clutches.
 
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