Fate/White Parmesan
- Thread starter AnonymousRabbit
- Start date
- Mature Fantasy Modern
Spectral Waltz
Scatterbrained Writer
- Location
- Walking the Endless Corridors
The part I'm worried about is that Olga specifically mentioned assassin knowing a way to deal with rider, we might want to provide some support...
[X] Action: Kill.
Get her out of the way, non-lethal takes more time.
[X] Action: Kill.
Get her out of the way, non-lethal takes more time.
Rowknan
Roar
- Location
- The Unknown
- Pronouns
- She/Her
That's fair. If such a plan gains traction I would gladly through my support behind it.
- Location
- Finland
I'm not against voting for kill option, that was kinda my first decision.
But i think if we can hurt the master enough the servant will need to come to their aid, or they can pull their servant back.
Also, i think that is more interesting option than just going for the kill.
But i think if we can hurt the master enough the servant will need to come to their aid, or they can pull their servant back.
Also, i think that is more interesting option than just going for the kill.
And if we kill her, her Servant vanishes entirely. I don't see your point.
Guys, if we subdue her, that doesn't stop her Servant. Killing her ends the threat and, more importantly, stops Assassin for good.
Why are so many people trying to go for just subduing... there are literally no benefits to doing so, plenty of reasons not to do so, and Olga may have a sympathetic-ish backstory, but she is not a sympathetic person deserving of mercy.
Why are so many people trying to go for just subduing... there are literally no benefits to doing so, plenty of reasons not to do so, and Olga may have a sympathetic-ish backstory, but she is not a sympathetic person deserving of mercy.
>.<
I certainly hope that people aren't voting this way because of F/GO Olga... but they probably are. Or some of them anyways.
Rowknan
Roar
- Location
- The Unknown
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I mean to be fair, on a morality vote like this a large percentage of voters would go for the good guy option regardless.
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But is it really the good guy option? Or is it the option that might in the future let her hurt more people? Heck, as long as she's alive, even if we take out Assassin she could still throw her support behind a different master in hopes of revenge.
- Location
- Finland
*flashback to Fate Stay/Night*
Not necessarily, and not immediately.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Once you start throwing around 'oh, if X is alive they'll keep on killing people so the only possible way is murder', then you've given yourself a very self-serving hammer. Olga isn't the Joker and this isn't Warhammer.
We don't need to kill her to knock her out of the war. Carmella doesn't really have any skills or Phantasms that'd keep her around once she's axed for good, not outside some contrivance with the blood-sucking skill letting her take in a ton of energy at once. But remember: Olga's wanted by the Church for killing civilians. If she goes full Zuko after being handed over to Jeanne, then the conversation can be revisited. Yet I doubt after being in the Saint's care there will be any issue.
If they don't have Independent Action, or some way of draining prana from a leyline or something, it happens pretty quickly. For Carmilla to stay alive after her master died, she would need to almost non-stop drain blood basically 24/7, and even with that her already relatively poor fighting skills would tank and even a master would have a decent chance of beating her.
Okay, let me try to be objective here.
Fact: Olga has no problem killing civilians in large numbers if she thinks it'll give her an advantage.
Fact: Olga seriously wants revenge against us.
Knowing these two things... do you really think that Carmilla dying would stop her from lashing out at us?
And even if the answer is, "yes," trying to subdue is harder than trying to kill, and Olga seems very confident that Assassin can kill Rider this time. Killing Olga kills two birds with one stone; she's no longer a threat, either current or future, and Assassin is basically dead.
Moreover, as I have said multiple times, Olga isn't a person deserving of sympathy. She is easily an example of how immoral Magus' can get. And while we aren't going on a crusade against all evil Magus' (a large percentage of them), she's our enemy, she's in front of us, and killing her is easier than trying to keep her alive.
I'll drop this at this point unless there's a response because it seems people either disagree with or otherwise aren't receptive to my opinion, but I really think going easy on her (as in, trying not to kill her) is a mistake.
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kinigget
Best Demon
- Location
- People's Republic of Portland
And as I said last time we had this debate, this is the Moonlit World. Morality is the first thing to fall by the wayside. And besides that, I respect her wish, I respect her drive, and I see no need to simply erase her here.
[X] Action: Employ violence until hostile has surrendered.
[X] Action: Employ violence until hostile has surrendered.
- Location
- West Michigan
[X] Action: Employ violence until hostile has ceased resistance.
If it worked for Gil and Enkidu, and Artoria and Pellinore, it can work for us.
If it worked for Gil and Enkidu, and Artoria and Pellinore, it can work for us.
[X] Action: Employ violence until hostile has ceased resistance.
And all the voices won't recede. At least the first half of that song fits fairly well actually.
And all the voices won't recede. At least the first half of that song fits fairly well actually.
- Location
- Somewhere over the Rainbow
[X] Action: Employ violence until hostile has surrendered.
AnonymousRabbit
Rabbit Faced
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