I mean, for a prolonged battle, a weapon will be worth more than a single spell, but it's not going to be a prolonged battle, and we should aim to get rid of them as fast as possible, before they can counter us
Shattered Justice (A Persona Quest)
- Thread starter SeekerofDreams
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SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
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- Selphia
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DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
We need a tie breaker.
- Location
- Washington, USA
[X] Spells
-[X] Zio
You're welcome.
-[X] Zio
You're welcome.
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
Okay, lightning use, that works out...
Also, because this was being discussed earlier: In this quest, whether Shadows drop money or not depends entirely on the type of Shadows they are. Eagles do, Mayas don't, and Golden Hands literally burst into a shower of cash.
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Also, because this was being discussed earlier: In this quest, whether Shadows drop money or not depends entirely on the type of Shadows they are. Eagles do, Mayas don't, and Golden Hands literally burst into a shower of cash.
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
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- USA
Aren't Golden Hands also practically immune to all damage types but one and have extremely high All Mighty Resistence?
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
Yes. Yes, they are. That's the point.
The First Battle- Part 1
SeekerofDreams
Aspiring Farmer
- Location
- Selphia
You've never wittingly used magic in a combat situation before. Honestly, some part of you didn't expect it'd come down to this until you had access to things like an actual Evoker. But the world just seems to want to prove you wrong today, and given that you listened to a cat you already knew to be reckless, you guess it could turn out a whole lot worse.
Like, they could have a way to keep you from casting spells or something. That would be problematic.
Makajam is a cruel mistress.
But there's no sign of that right now. It's all theoretical. So you focus on charging up some lightning, because you're not about to go around hitting Shadows with unpracticed magic, and you don't have the energy to use Hama a lot.
...Well, you sort of could, if you had a sugary drink nearby, but you don't think any vending machines are working right now, and even if they did, you don't have any money. It doesn't matter. You have blobs to fight.
Morgana strikes first, whipping up a powerful gust of wind around him. You're not sure why he doesn't summon his Persona, but you think that might be his overconfidence at work again. And it turns the blob closest to him into goop, so you guess it works. Whatever.
The less things we have to hit with lightning, the better. We've got two shots, let's make them count.
Another blob decides to try charging at you. For some reason. You blast it with the lightning you had charged, and it recoils back. You don't think it'll be bothering you again for a bit.
Just to make sure you'll be left alone, you fire another arc of lightning at the next closest Shadow to you. It flattens out into a puddle, but doesn't dissolve or anything. You're not sure why that is.
...Also, you don't have enough strength left to use more lightning magic. That's... not a good thing.
On the bright side, the Shadows that are off the ground are busy trying to attack Morgana, though he seems to be having problems dodging their claws, for some reason...
...You should probably help him. Somehow.
HP: 17/17
SP: 7/23
[ ] Finish off the Shadows closest to you first.
-[ ] With Cruel Attack.
-[ ] By kicking them in the face.
[ ] Use the magic you use left to heal any wounds Morgana might have.
[ ] Try and knock those Shadows away from Morgana.
-[ ] With Cruel Attack.
--[ ] And keep fighting.
--[ ] And try to pull a retreat.
Like, they could have a way to keep you from casting spells or something. That would be problematic.
Makajam is a cruel mistress.
But there's no sign of that right now. It's all theoretical. So you focus on charging up some lightning, because you're not about to go around hitting Shadows with unpracticed magic, and you don't have the energy to use Hama a lot.
...Well, you sort of could, if you had a sugary drink nearby, but you don't think any vending machines are working right now, and even if they did, you don't have any money. It doesn't matter. You have blobs to fight.
Morgana strikes first, whipping up a powerful gust of wind around him. You're not sure why he doesn't summon his Persona, but you think that might be his overconfidence at work again. And it turns the blob closest to him into goop, so you guess it works. Whatever.
The less things we have to hit with lightning, the better. We've got two shots, let's make them count.
Another blob decides to try charging at you. For some reason. You blast it with the lightning you had charged, and it recoils back. You don't think it'll be bothering you again for a bit.
Just to make sure you'll be left alone, you fire another arc of lightning at the next closest Shadow to you. It flattens out into a puddle, but doesn't dissolve or anything. You're not sure why that is.
...Also, you don't have enough strength left to use more lightning magic. That's... not a good thing.
On the bright side, the Shadows that are off the ground are busy trying to attack Morgana, though he seems to be having problems dodging their claws, for some reason...
...You should probably help him. Somehow.
HP: 17/17
SP: 7/23
[ ] Finish off the Shadows closest to you first.
-[ ] With Cruel Attack.
-[ ] By kicking them in the face.
[ ] Use the magic you use left to heal any wounds Morgana might have.
[ ] Try and knock those Shadows away from Morgana.
-[ ] With Cruel Attack.
--[ ] And keep fighting.
--[ ] And try to pull a retreat.
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
[X] Finish off the Shadows closest to you first.
-[X] With Cruel Attack.
The cat can totally handle himself.
Also, as I've pointed out earlier, we can no longer use Zio after two uses and look at that, the fight isn't even over!
Where's you're "All Out Attack" guys?
-[X] With Cruel Attack.
The cat can totally handle himself.
Also, as I've pointed out earlier, we can no longer use Zio after two uses and look at that, the fight isn't even over!
Where's you're "All Out Attack" guys?
- Location
- Somewhere
[X] Finish off the Shadows closest to you first.
-[X] With Cruel Attack.
Kill them so we don't have to deal with them.
-[X] With Cruel Attack.
Kill them so we don't have to deal with them.
... Did the time travel result in weakening Morgana below level 1? Because even lv1 Morgana from P5 could have taken those guys on if he attacked first.
Admitedly, due to Morgana for some reason suddenly trying to use as little SP as possible, the 'All out attack' plan didn't work out. On the other hand, we have two downed Shadows, so we are relatively safe right now, while even if Cruel Strike would have killed one, it wouldn't stop the other one coming close, and I don't think we would have gotten the chance to attack with it twice.
Now, the first things we should do is to kill the downed Shadows, because a Shadow with 1 hp can hurt you as much as one with 100 hp, but dead Shadow won't hurt you at all.
Hmm... A downed Shadow recives more damage, and those two are already hurt, but without seeing how much hp they have left, I don't know if just kicking them could kill them. On the other hand, saving Cruel Strike for the other two seems like a good idea. Hmm... It all comes to whether we can kill those Shadows now barehanded. If yes, we should do so. If not, we should Cruel Strike them. For know, I will vote for the latter - better to overkill than not kill, but...
@SeekerofDreams Is there something around we can pick up as an improvised weapon? A brick, a bigger stone, a rather thick stick?
[X] Finish off the Shadows closest to you first.
-[X] With Cruel Attack.
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- Somewhere
Getting hit isn't a completely bad thing, we'd learn how hard these guys hit, especially when both of us have Dia to heal up.
I'm fairly sure that's it's just 2. Morgana puddled one, we stunned one and puddled our own, and the rest are attacking him, so it should be 2.
Kkutlord
Prince of Breath
- Location
- Indianapolis, Indiana
Cruel Attack might be overkill for the stunned Shadows, and that'll eat up 6 or so HP. We only have 17 HP, so that's over a third of self-inflicted damage.
[X] Finish off the Shadows closest to you first.
-[X] By kicking them in the face.
--[X] If that doesn't work, then Cruel Attack.
[X] Finish off the Shadows closest to you first.
-[X] By kicking them in the face.
--[X] If that doesn't work, then Cruel Attack.
For the first point? It wouldn't be, but I'm scared of criticals. One of them hits us and we are dead, or will be soon dead.
For the second? You are right, that was a mistake on my part, changing it right now.
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
Shame we don't have much SP for Dia now huh? If only there was a way we could have avoided that.
- Location
- Somewhere
Better to overkill, than risk having all 5 shadows back up and running. We've only got a single double strength Dia left in us, so we aren't in any position to tank hits of unknown damage.
Kkutlord
Prince of Breath
- Location
- Indianapolis, Indiana
True enough, but using Cruel Attack on all 5 will put us at 2 HP. Very least we can have Ken test a quick kick, then Cruel Attack if it isn't good enough. Still though, overall I view this as a learning experience for Ken.
He'll understand the importance of having a consistent flow of money, so he can use his Spells and Cruel Attack more. Plus the fact he can't even one-shot total weaklings makes it clear he needs training and better gear.
Hmm... Wonder if we could manage Evoker-less summoning eventually...
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- Somewhere
That's what teammates, in this case Morgana, are for. We don't need to Cruel Attack all 5, just these two, maybe the one Morgana knocked down initially, and then let him kick the remaining twos ass.
From the Mechanics sheet "Free Summoning: What people do when they don't have Evokers. It requires a Persona with the ability to learn high-end Skills and Spells, as well as some amount of mental discipline, and is still rather difficult to do outside of a dangerous situation. But you don't get questioned by the police for having a gun. So there's that." So it's entirely possible, we just need to practice it, and hope Nemesis fits the requirements.
That reminds me, we definitely want everyone using Free Summoning before we go to the Metaverse. Don't want use the Evokers only to blow our fucking brains out.
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
First of all, as I've stated so many times, Dia.
Secondly, I repeat, with what money? How are we going to get this money you think we have?
Thirdly, I doubt Natural Summoning is going to be as easy as you think it'll be.
- Location
- Somewhere
He isn't saying we'll get money or that we have it, just that Ken will know he needs to find a way to get some cash. Can't fix a problem until you know it's a problem that needs fixing.
The problem with Dia is that, when you heal, you don't attack Shadows, which means they get to attack you. It's not a problem in full party, as with one or two guys healing, the rest can kill Shadows. Here, we don't really have that. If we spend a turn healing, the Shadows will hit us, and we will lose even more hp. We either have to kill them fast, or down them to buy us time.
Please tell me Morgana didn't actually blow through most of his MP when he was doing this.
- Location
- Somewhere
That's why we'd be using Cruel Attack to finish off some shadows, and give us some breathing room to heal. Besides, as long as we heal more HP than the Shadows take away, that's a win.
Pffft, I didn't even think of that, that would be fucking hilarious.
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
...he did. That fucking idiotic cat did! This is EXACTLY why I hate this cat. Always more a burden than a help.