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Shining Example (WORM ORIGIN QUEST)

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New Years Resolution: No more month breaks.

Let's see how long that lasts. :V

Either way, I hope you guys are greeting 2019 with a smile like I am. Enjoy, and welcome to the new year!
 
Oh... boy.

Allfather.

What's the best way to deal with the E88 then? The problem with hate groups is that fittingly enough, they feed on hate. They attract outcasts who want to belong, and those who are left out for their opinions, dragging in less extreme people into their brotherhood. They're also fairly close knit, which leads to heavy feedback loops. How are we to dismantle this one? Maybe an inside agent who works their way up and dilutes their message, generalizing and subsequently fracturing the group? Media coverage makes things worse, increased public scrutiny makes things worse, ignoring them makes things worse.

Of course, this is all assuming they are currently a hate group, but it's a pretty reasonable one.

Edit: @IKnowNothing , to what extent do Wildbow's Word of God on the instability of parahuman groups apply in this AU?
 
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Argidoll said:
Edit: @IKnowNothing , to what extent do Wildbow's Word of God on the instability of parahuman groups apply in this AU?
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I don't know the exact quote, so I don't know how to answer for sure, but with Atlas being here, the groups have a lot more reason to band together if they want to survive. Before they had the Triumvirate and Hero. Now, they have those four and a man who can control gravity. They are scared and they are desperate to adapt even more so then they were in canon.

Right now survival and a strong leader will keep them together. They don't have to like each other, but the Founder give them plenty of ways to get into trouble and conflict.
 
Use the Waves to knock them out and then door out of there?

I mean our entire reason for showing up was recon, we've reconned, sticking around makes no sense.

Also we could crush them like grapes with minimum effort, so giving them a chance to attack (and potentially hurt civilians) is stupid.

The one problem with this plan is them realizing that they've got our personal attention, which in my opinion isn't that much of an issue. If they know we're looking at them then they know they're doing something we don't approve of, and if they keep doing it or do something worse then we're going to come down on their heads like the wrath of god.

Our main ability, at least at the moment, is to be the very obvious and very visible hammer above these maniacs' collective heads. The more they fuck up and hurt innocent people the more likely it is that we drop down and crush them.

It's like a very demented game of whack a mole.
 
Evaunit02mark1 said:
Use the Waves to knock them out and then door out of there?

I mean our entire reason for showing up was recon, we've reconned, sticking around makes no sense.

Also we could crush them like grapes with minimum effort, so giving them a chance to attack (and potentially hurt civilians) is stupid.

The one problem with this plan is them realizing that they've got our personal attention, which in my opinion isn't that much of an issue. If they know we're looking at them then they know they're doing something we don't approve of, and if they keep doing it or do something worse then we're going to come down on their heads like the wrath of god.

Our main ability, at least at the moment, is to be the very obvious and very visible hammer above these maniacs' collective heads. The more they fuck up and hurt innocent people the more likely it is that we drop down and crush them.

It's like a very demented game of whack a mole.
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We still need a valid reason though. We haven't seen their evil actions IC yet, and we need evidence to justify it to the public.
 
Evaunit02mark1 said:
"I was walking down the street when I was cornered by two maniacs in cheap clothes and one of them threatened to skewer me "seems a valid enough reason to me.
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But then we would have to explain why the two maniacs are talking about the advanced surveilllance tech in our possession, and, depending on the scale of our response, the precedents we set could have a lot of destabilizing consequences, given the obvious and recognizable nature of our powers.
 
IKnowNothing said:
I need votes first though. They are the fuel for this engine.
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True enough. Although you ignored the actual question for the chance to try and meme me.
Can somebody pretty up this vote for me?

[ ] No I didn't make them, a friend of mine did. Tell them enough to know that you're not working alone although don't let them know the full scale of Cauldron. When they ask, let them know that you were in town because you and your friends where intrigued by the E88 Recruitment thingy. Not a lie, but perhaps a misleading truth.
 
Dark as Silver said:
[ ] No I didn't make them, a friend of mine did. Tell them enough to know that you're not working alone although don't let them know the full scale of Cauldron. When they ask, let them know that you were in town because you and your friends where intrigued by the E88 Recruitment thingy. Not a lie, but perhaps a misleading truth.
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Not a bad idea, gives them a little meat to chew on while showing them we work with someone else.

The downside of course is that letting them know that shows that we have a tinker on hand which makes us even more valuable to bring in. They might try to be "friendly" with it, but an interrogation is an interrogation, and there's no telling how thorough they might try to be with it.

If we've got the physical strength I've got no problem using our waves to quickly crush the skewers (a flash of golden light might be an issue but it's at least more subtle than a constant glow) and then cold clocking these fuckers, but that's still risking this fight getting into civilian territory.

The best bet might be to simply crush them down hard and deal with the fallout later, said fallout being two unconscious Nazi's and letting the villains of Brockton Bay know that they're on our radar.
 
[x] No I didn't make them, a friend of mine did. Tell them enough to know that you're not working alone although don't let them know the full scale of Cauldron. When they ask, let them know that you were in town because you and your friends where intrigued by the E88 Recruitment thingy. Not a lie, but perhaps a misleading truth.

Stuff it, I'm going to take the leap, if we have to we can book it or fight them, Alex has some months of fighting supers by now, and is strong as hell, he should be able to escape if they try and push things.
 
Alright its officially a recruitment 'thingy'.
[X] No I didn't make them, a friend of mine did. Tell them enough to know that you're not working alone although don't let them know the full scale of Cauldron. When they ask, let them know that you were in town because you and your friends where intrigued by the E88 Recruitment thingy. Not a lie, but perhaps a misleading truth.
 
McLuvin said:
Alex has some months of fighting supers by now, and is strong as hell, he should be able to escape if they try and push things.
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Two months of fighting with Eidolon, training with Rebecca, and his max output has not been tested. Number Man has been asked and he gave Doctor Mother this look:



"I knew the man for half an hour and he threw a mountain out of the atmosphere like you throw garbage into the trash. Who gives a shit what his max is."
 
[X] No I didn't make them, a friend of mine did. Tell them enough to know that you're not working alone although don't let them know the full scale of Cauldron. When they ask, let them know that you were in town because you and your friends where intrigued by the E88 Recruitment thingy. Not a lie, but perhaps a misleading truth.

Eh, sat on it a few days and couldn't think of anything better so I suppose this is what we're going with.

They act funny though we break their legs, and their arms, and if we're feeling particularly dickish, their teeth.
 
IKnowNothing said:
Two months of fighting with Eidolon, training with Rebecca, and his max output has not been tested. Number Man has been asked and he gave Doctor Mother this look:



"I knew the man for half an hour and he threw a mountain out of the atmosphere like you throw garbage into the trash. Who gives a shit what his max is."
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....Fair enough.

Besides, he ran the numbers, he knows what will happen to anyone who attacks and harms him.

The numbers for their survival of Rebecca are surprisingly low, even for someone stupid enough to hurt her Husbando.
 
[x] No I didn't make them, a friend of mine did. Tell them enough to know that you're not working alone although don't let them know the full scale of Cauldron. When they ask, let them know that you were in town because you and your friends where intrigued by the E88 Recruitment thingy. Not a lie, but perhaps a misleading truth.

Don't be a baby Alex, it's just a little risk at being stabbed.
 
Just a heads up, I'm probably only going to keep the vote up until Saturday. Don't work this weekend and I'm pretty sure no one wants another month wait.
 
[X] No I didn't make them, a friend of mine did. Tell them enough to know that you're not working alone although don't let them know the full scale of Cauldron. When they ask, let them know that you were in town because you and your friends where intrigued by the E88 Recruitment thingy. Not a lie, but perhaps a misleading truth.
 
IKnowNothing said:
"I don't know how to long divide, and I became a superhero before knowing that Calculus is a thing," You point out, "How the hell would I know how to read latitude and longitude?"
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...How old are we again? 17? Shit, how old were we when we were put in the hospital?

Long division is pretty basic stuff -- pretty sure I learned that early sophomore year of high school at the absolute latest, and that's only because I don't remember what I learned before I was in pre-calc in junior year.

IKnowNothing said:
Well, you are a parahuman, but someone might think you're not the kid of parahuman who helps them out.
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While we are probably pretty young, I don't think people would see us as a kid anymore, nor do I believe that is what you meant here.

[x] No I didn't make them, a friend of mine did. Tell them enough to know that you're not working alone although don't let them know the full scale of Cauldron. When they ask, let them know that you were in town because you and your friends where intrigued by the E88 Recruitment thingy. Not a lie, but perhaps a misleading truth.
 
Blonddude42 said:
...How old are we again? 17? Shit, how old were we when we were put in the hospital?
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Alex was 16 when he was admitted. Even before then, math wasn't his strongest subject. He put more effort into his science classes and english trying to understand what his siblings were always talking about. He got fed up always being out of the conversation.
 
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