A true hero... in training (Pokemon Gym Leader's apprentice quest)

Memory erasure takes time. Pinning us down with an attack though? Much quicker.


My points are we're horribly outmatched AND it has literally no reason to even listen to a single word we say. Diplomacy could just be us getting three words out and then getting pinned down by Psychic.

Honestly Battle is our best option because it will distract it from mind wiping us in a way something as easily ignorable as words can't.
How? If he physically/psychically won't let us talk, he won't let us give orders to our pokemon. And thus we're again in the same position.

If he's going to pin us down while letting us talk, there's effectively no difference because we can still order our team (though Fang at least would try to attack either way).

If it's going to pin our pokemon down before we can react, it's going to pin them down before they can attack. Again no difference.
 
[X] "Hey Rose Purple Protector, can we get Flash to help us out here? I like my memories!"
-[X] "I'll sing if you really need the music!"

Tried looking for you say run acapella covers for the lulz, but my 5 seconds of google-fu yielded no results. Now that's a shame.
 
[X] DIPLOMACY. Talk to that Kadabra. He is smart and you might be able to convince him to NOT erase your memories.
-[X] Point out that the grunt has no idea how to use the Kadabra and in fact already let a witness escape. A witness that has called the police, while you called over a powerful friend before coming here as well. Then there's the the powerful Slowpoke that specialises in breaking down mental barriers just so it can do the theme song schtick. It might not get involved now, but when he tries to erases his trainer's memories? Their operation has already failed because of the grunt and erasing your memories of his loss only serves to protect his ego. Is that really worth the risk of getting captured?
 
@shinkiro, @Markala, @NathanMedium, @Saturday, @veekie, @Paroni, @TimEd, @HugoR, @FakePriest, @Nachtigall, @RandomDwarf, @Dr_Caduceus, @Hoshu Do you want to add on the extra write-in to your votes?
Adhoc vote count started by TempestK on Dec 18, 2018 at 12:24 PM, finished with 44 posts and 26 votes.

  • [x] DIPLOMACY. Talk to that Kadabra. He is smart and you might be able to convince him to NOT erase your memories.
    [x] DIPLOMACY. Talk to that Kadabra. He is smart and you might be able to convince him to NOT erase your memories.
    -[X] Point out that the grunt has no idea how to use the Kadabra and in fact already let a witness escape. A witness that has called the police, while you called over a powerful friend before coming here as well. Then there's the the powerful Slowpoke that specialises in breaking down mental barriers just so it can do the theme song schtick. It might not get involved now, but when he tries to erases his trainer's memories? Their operation has already failed because of the grunt and erasing your memories of his loss only serves to protect his ego. Is that really worth the risk of getting captured?
    [X] FIGHT. That Kadabra is really strong but this is still a two on one. You might be able to pull this off.
    -[X] Maelstrom Aqua Jet the Kadabra.
    -[X] Fang, Fire Fang the Rosalia!
    [X] "Hey Rose, can we get Flash to help us out here? I like my memories!"
    -[X] "I'll sing if you really need the music!"
    [X] DIPLOMACY. Talk to that Kadabra. He is smart and you might be able to convince him to NOT erase your memories.
    [X] "Hey Rose Purple Protector, can we get Flash to help us out here? I like my memories!"
    -[X] "I'll sing if you really need the music!"
 
[x] DIPLOMACY. Talk to that Kadabra. He is smart and you might be able to convince him to NOT erase your memories.
-[X] Point out that the grunt has no idea how to use the Kadabra and in fact already let a witness escape. A witness that has called the police, while you called over a powerful friend before coming here as well. Then there's the the powerful Slowpoke that specialises in breaking down mental barriers just so it can do the theme song schtick. It might not get involved now, but when he tries to erases his trainer's memories? Their operation has already failed because of the grunt and erasing your memories of his loss only serves to protect his ego. Is that really worth the risk of getting captured?
 
We just need to stall the Kadabra for one turn so that Ares can KO the Roselia, because then Rose The Purple Protector can come in and fight an even match with Flash vs Kadabra.


If Fang can get Strong Jaw and learn all of those fang/biting moves, then that's great. I'll list em out here:

  • Fire Fang: Fire type, 65 power, 10% chance to burn and 10% chance to flinch
  • Ice Fang: Ice type, 65 power, 10% chance to freeze and 10% chance to flinch
  • Thunder Fang: Electric type, 65 power, 10% chance to paralyze and 10% chance to flinch
  • Poison Fang: poison type, 50 power, 10% chance to badly poison on a successful strike.
  • Psychic Fangs: Psychic type, 85 power, destroys Light Screen and Reflect
  • Hyper Fang: Normal type, 80 power, 10% chance to flinch on a successful strike
  • Bite: Dark type, 60 power, 10% chance to flinch on a successful hit
  • Crunch: Dark type, 80 power, 10% chance to lower defense on a successful hit
  • Super Fang: Normal type, cuts target's HP in half

Out of those, we really want these six for the type coverage:
  • Fire Fang: Fire type, 65 power, 10% chance to burn and 10% chance to flinch
  • Ice Fang: Ice type, 65 power, 10% chance to freeze and 10% chance to flinch
  • Thunder Fang: Electric type, 65 power, 10% chance to paralyze and 10% chance to flinch
  • Poison Fang: poison type, 50 power, 10% chance to badly poison on a successful strike.
  • Psychic Fangs: Psychic type, 85 power, destroys Light Screen and Reflect
  • Crunch: Dark type, 80 power, 10% chance to lower defense on a successful hit

With six close range moves, we probably want longer ranged ones like Thunderbolt or Swift for the last couple. (But man, I'm still tempted to try and teach Fang Volt Tackle with Cynthia's help. The sheer damage output would be glorious.
 
[x] DIPLOMACY. Talk to that Kadabra. He is smart and you might be able to convince him to NOT erase your memories.
-[X] Point out that the grunt has no idea how to use the Kadabra and in fact already let a witness escape. A witness that has called the police, while you called over a powerful friend before coming here as well. Then there's the the powerful Slowpoke that specialises in breaking down mental barriers just so it can do the theme song schtick. It might not get involved now, but when he tries to erases his trainer's memories? Their operation has already failed because of the grunt and erasing your memories of his loss only serves to protect his ego. Is that really worth the risk of getting captured?
 
Problem. Flash is a pacifist.

I mean, the trait says that he only dislikes battle, not that he's unwilling to do it at all. And I imagine stopping a mind-wiping criminal is a possible exception to his pacifism. But yeah, I didn't actually notice that trait until you pointed it out, so thanks.

You REALLY don't know what Pacifists are huh? If you did you'd know Flash won't do jackshit.

Sorry, I didn't see it on my first read through. I'm tired and sick and my brother has decided the best use of his time is to his music full blast in the house, which is just ugh. So, uh, I understand what you're going through, at least.
 
[x] DIPLOMACY. Talk to that Kadabra. He is smart and you might be able to convince him to NOT erase your memories.
-[X] Point out that the grunt has no idea how to use the Kadabra and in fact already let a witness escape. A witness that has called the police, while you called over a powerful friend before coming here as well. Then there's the the powerful Slowpoke that specialises in breaking down mental barriers just so it can do the theme song schtick. It might not get involved now, but when he tries to erases his trainer's memories? Their operation has already failed because of the grunt and erasing your memories of his loss only serves to protect his ego. Is that really worth the risk of getting captured?
 
[x] DIPLOMACY. Talk to that Kadabra. He is smart and you might be able to convince him to NOT erase your memories.
-[X] Point out that the grunt has no idea how to use the Kadabra and in fact already let a witness escape. A witness that has called the police, while you called over a powerful friend before coming here as well. Then there's the the powerful Slowpoke that specialises in breaking down mental barriers just so it can do the theme song schtick. It might not get involved now, but when he tries to erases his trainer's memories? Their operation has already failed because of the grunt and erasing your memories of his loss only serves to protect his ego. Is that really worth the risk of getting captured?

Yeah. This will give the Kadabra more of an incentive to retreat rather than fight. Also it weakens the two gruntls position having to run away and leave witnesses behind while tehnically being successful in retreating.
 
Closing the votes here. Will write later tonight.
Adhoc vote count started by Luxicato on Dec 19, 2018 at 12:30 PM, finished with 55 posts and 27 votes.

  • [x] DIPLOMACY. Talk to that Kadabra. He is smart and you might be able to convince him to NOT erase your memories.
    -[X] Point out that the grunt has no idea how to use the Kadabra and in fact already let a witness escape. A witness that has called the police, while you called over a powerful friend before coming here as well. Then there's the the powerful Slowpoke that specialises in breaking down mental barriers just so it can do the theme song schtick. It might not get involved now, but when he tries to erases his trainer's memories? Their operation has already failed because of the grunt and erasing your memories of his loss only serves to protect his ego. Is that really worth the risk of getting captured?
    [x] DIPLOMACY. Talk to that Kadabra. He is smart and you might be able to convince him to NOT erase your memories.
    [X] FIGHT. That Kadabra is really strong but this is still a two on one. You might be able to pull this off.
    -[X] Maelstrom Aqua Jet the Kadabra.
    -[X] Fang, Fire Fang the Rosalia!
    [X] "Hey Rose, can we get Flash to help us out here? I like my memories!"
    -[X] "I'll sing if you really need the music!"
    [X] DIPLOMACY. Talk to that Kadabra. He is smart and you might be able to convince him to NOT erase your memories.
    [X] "Hey Rose Purple Protector, can we get Flash to help us out here? I like my memories!"
    -[X] "I'll sing if you really need the music!"
 
Fight against a grunt INTERRUPTION
You take a step back, then another. Your mind racing to find a solution to this situation. Your two pokemon move quickly in front of you, trying to protect their trainer. In front of them, a Kadabra staring at you. Behind him, the criminal, now smirking knowing that he already won.

To the side, Rose and the other girl, fighting. Their pokemon almost tied in strength, but the Torchic was starting to win that battle bit by bit, even if that woman seems to be a good trainer.

On top of a container, Flash. The other pokemon. Strong, strong enough to be capable of fighting this Kadabra, probably. The only problem is that he doesn't look ready to fight. You are not even sure if he is aware of the situation everyone is in. You never understood Slowpokes.

The Kadrabra made a decision inside his mind and took a step in your direction. He was going to end this problem quickly erasing the memories of everyone here that wasn't the grunts. An easy feat for him that would only take a few minutes. He was a calm and focused individual. He knew what their real mission was, not like those two weaklings. He took another step in your direction.

You had to do something. You had to do something NOW. Looking around you had to… No, fighting wasn't an option. You just needed more time until the cops or Violet or someone was here.

"W-wait!" You yelled. The Kadabra actually stopped for a moment, willing to hear what you have to say. "A witness already escaped and the police is coming. I also called a friend, a strong one. You should go away now that you can." You said, trying to look as serious as possible. It was like trying to stare down a cannon aimed at your face.

The Kadabra, unimpressed, took another step in your direction.

"A-and that Slowpoke is stronger than he looks! He can break any mental barrier and uses it just to make everyone hear a theme song. Imagine what will he do when you start to mess with his trainer's memories." When you say that, the Kadabra stops. His eyes opening wide, slowly. He just realized that the music in his head wasn't coming from around him. It was from inside his head. For a psychic type this was seriously unnerving. Someone capable of passing through all of his barriers as soon as he was out of the pokeball? He never realized that someone was tampering with his mind until now. He looked at the Slowpoke in fear for a second.

"What's wrong, Kadabra? It's just a dumb Slowpoke. It's been up there all this time only doing the music thing!" Said the grunt, not understanding what the Kadabra was feeling.

You had the momentum now. Now, you only had to push forward. "That guy made this operation fail and erasing my memories will only help protect his ego. It's not worth the risk." You said, looking at that Kadabra. This was… working?

"The fuck are you talking about?" Replied the grunt, annoyed and confused. "I don't care if you beat me in a battle like that. I just don't want you to remember us. It's literally one of the point of our mission. Charon said…"

"SILENCE!" You heard inside your mind. You and the grunt took a step back. It was a low voice, almost a growl. The Kadabra was looking angrily at you. "Both of you. I don't need your opinions or suggestions." He took another step in your direction. "Do you think I'm just a tool my trainer lent to him? This is my mission as much as it's his. You DARE suggest I have no stakes on this? That I can let this be a failure?" He then stopped. Fang was ready to pounce in his direction and even Maelstrom looked ready to fight. "But you are right." Kadabra nodded after saying that.

"I'm… right?" You asked, not really understanding what he meant right now after what he said.

"Yes. That Slowpoke might be a problem and I don't have time to erase your memories." After saying that, he moved a hand in Flash's direction. His eyes started to glow and Flash started to float, confused. That was the move Psychic.

It took you a second to react and realize what was he doing. It was too late now. Flash moved his legs in the air, trying to swim. He was moving by instinct while his brain caught up with the situation. It took him a couple seconds more than you to understand what was happening. He was high above the ground, no longer above the metal container but the concrete.

"Slow…?" He said, finally realizing what was happening.

Kadabra moved his hand down in a quick motion and Flash rocketed straight to the ground. In a blink he went from being high above you to landing behind some boxes with the loud meaty sound of something hitting concrete at high speed. Your eyes opened wide.

The music stopped.

"Flash!" Rose suddenly turned around when the music stopped. She was worried, terrified. Something happened to her pokemon and she knew.

"Roselia, now!" The woman yelled at her pokemon. The Roselia fighting the Torchic used attraction. Rose was distracted so Torchic had no way of getting rid of the effects on his own. It was a powerful move.

Torchic moved in Roselia's direction, getting closer. When he was close enough the Roselia grabbed him and threw the Torchic over the edge of the concrete platform. Into the water. In that moment the attraction lost its effect.

"Ares!" Now Rose realized what happened. She looked back at where Flash was before running and jumping into the water. Her Torchic didn't know how to swim. She had to save him!

You were paralyzed for a second. What… What happened? Everything went too fast and out of your control. You had no way of stopping any of it. Fang tried to jump to attack the Kadabra but an invisible wall stopped him, making him bounce back.

"Thank you for that information… I feel much better now that no one is messing with my head. And now… Time to end this quick." The Kadabra said and lifted a hand in your direction.

For a moment the grunt seemed a bit nervous. He wasn't there to kill anyone. He wasn't there to kill a kid. He realized too late that even if he had the pokeball, the Kadabra was the one in charge. He moved his hand to Kadabra's pokeball, maybe he could stop him and kick that kid's ass until he decided to not talk. Maybe kidnapping him so they erase his memory with more time. Yeah, that was a good idea. No memories, no problem.

When he grabbed the pokeball it was stuck there, surrounded by a psychic barrier. He was never the one in charge.

Kadabra's hand started to glow, charging a Psybeam. It was a powerful attack from a powerful pokemon. You don't think you can dodge it. Not at this distance. Not from a pokemon like him.

Fang and Maelstrom stood now in front of you. Maelstrom bounced once, looking at you. He wanted you to lay on the ground, to hide behind them. They would take the hit for you, even if it was probably too strong for them.

Trust me, young man. Do you believe in destiny?

[] Be protected by your pokemon. Let them take the hit.
[] Move in the way. Protect your pokemon. Take the hit yourself.

[X] Believe.
 
Wow. You guys fucked up HARD. Yes, I am blaming the Diplomacy voters because you guys literally said the worst possible thing. Because you guys thought the thing had absolutely no stake in this for whatever dumb reason. Seriously, you guys fucked Up HARD.

[X] Be protected by your pokemon. Let them take the hit.
-[X] "Fang, Charge as much as you can."
 
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[X] "Ok Fang, listen to me! Focus your energy and project it outwards in the form of a barrier capable of stopping any attack. Focus on stopping that attack from hurting us. Use Protect."

Who here is feeling lucky?
 
[X] "Ok Fang, listen to me! Focus your energy and project it outwards in the form of a barrier capable of stopping any attack. Focus on stopping that attack from hurting us. Use Protect."
[X] Believe.

this.
 
Wow. You guys fucked up HARD. Yes, I am blaming the Diplomacy voters because you guys literally said the worst possible thing. Because you guys thought the thing had absolutely no stake in this for whatever dumb reason. Seriously, you guys fucked Up HARD.

[X] Be protected by your pokemon. Let them take the hit.
-[X] "Fang, Charge as much as you can."

No. Bad Dark. Not blaming other people like that. Not that way. That comment will only make people angry and I don't want angry people.

Don't do that again.
 
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