[X] Other?
-[X] Oh hey, you have some time now and Hayate is here! It's a good chance to see if she talked with Zafira regarding training Satsuki and if something can be worked out.
 
[X] Other?
-[X] Oh hey, you have some time now and Hayate is here! It's a good chance to see if she talked with Zafira regarding training Satsuki and if something can be worked out.
 
[X] Other?
-[X] Oh hey, you have some time now and Hayate is here! It's a good chance to see if she talked with Zafira regarding training Satsuki and if something can be worked out.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Entropy Judge on Jul 14, 2018 at 5:39 PM, finished with 11878 posts and 13 votes.

  • [X] Other?
    -[X] Oh hey, you have some time now and Hayate is here! It's a good chance to see if she talked with Zafira regarding training Satsuki and if something can be worked out.
    [x] Time-skip:
    - [x] Mission.
    [x] Time-skip:
    -[X] Visit Lutecia.
    [X] Other?
    -[X] Oh hey, you have some time now and Hayate is here! It's a good chance to see if she talked with Zafira regarding training Satsuki and if something can be worked out.
    [x] Time-skip:
    -[X] Mission
    [X] Other?
    -[X] Oh hey, you have some time now and Hayate is here! It's a good chance to see if she talked with Zafira regarding training Satsuki and if something can be worked out.
 
Master Zafira?
[X] Other?
- [X] Oh hey, you have some time now and Hayate is here! It's a good chance to see if she talked with Zafira regarding training Satsuki and if something can be worked out.


You play a few more songs, waiting to make sure that Fate is really comfortable, then swap out with one of your clones. After all, just because you have something else to do doesn't mean you should deprive others of good music! Vita's scowl intensifies as you approach Hayate, at least until Hayate gently raps her knuckles on her subordinate's head. "Now, now, Vita - you could have said no." Vita rubs her head and pouts at Hayate. "It's very nice to listen to." You smile and nod happily.

"Yep! It finally got fixed up today, so I'm glad you like it." You glance at Vita, but she seems to be compromising between her dislike of you and Hayate's chastisement by wandering over to the snacks. Shamal is busy talking with Shari, probably about Ginga and the prisoners based on their proximity. "Did something else happen?" Hayate chuckles and shakes her head.

"She agreed to go to Gensokyo with Fate and Nanoha - although I haven't told them yet, so don't say anything!" She sighs wistfully, then shakes herself. "Anyway … what did you want to talk about?" You hop onto the chair on her other side and kick your legs idly.

"Have you talked to Zafira about whether he would be willing to help teach Satsuki?" She taps her lips and stays silent for long enough that you wonder if she forgot and is simply trying to figure out a good way to tell you.

"Well, I did, and from what we saw of your training session in the Simulator - we asked Shari if she knew anything and she sent the recording over; I'd have asked you, but you were on your mission - from what we saw she mostly needs strike training and getting used to fighting. But … does she really want to learn how to fight?" Your mouth twists unhappily and you cross your arms as Hayate watches you.

"… Not really. What she wants is to not have to hurt anyone, ever, and just live out a contented, if not happy, life. Unfortunately, that isn't really possible, for a number of reasons. More importantly, right now she's my servant and I'm instructing her in life lessons, and I think it's important that she be able to fight effectively if she has to, rather than simply relying on superior physical abilities - especially if they aren't that superior." Vita carries a plate brimming with sugary-looking things and sits down on Hayate's other side. She holds the plate such that Hayate can easily reach things, but you would have to lean across the colonel's lap to get something. Not that you have any such intention to begin with.

"Hmm. And would she try her hardest to improve?" You tilt your head slightly to the side, then nod after a moment's thought.

"I think so. She doesn't want to disappoint me, and she understands why I want her to learn how to fight. I think she even agrees, at least a little. At least, she seemed to agree when I explained things to her." Vita frowns at you - not exactly hostile, now, so much as generally grumpy. Does she think you're intruding too much into her family's existence? Or is she just grumpy because she still doesn't really like you?

"Well, I guess he's fine with teaching her, then. The only problem …." She trails off, watching Fate's little group thoughtfully.

"Compensation?" Hayate starts, apparently distracted, and Vita snorts as the young woman shakes her head quickly.

"Oh, no, no! That's not it. The problem is one of timing and meetings. Satsuki sleeps during the day, right? And from our house to here is … a bit of a drive. And magic use is restricted within city limits, so getting permission for flight or teleportation would be troublesome, especially for such a regular and non-threatening activity." You nod and can't help but scowl a bit. Home and Genoskyo spoiled you. At home, people would come if you and your sister wished it, and they would stay nearby if it was a long-term project - even staying in your home if it was something important. And Gensokyo is so small and undeveloped that this would never be a problem. But here, with its civilized society and rules about everything ….

"Right. Willing, but something has to be worked out. Hmm …." What to do about that?


What do you do?

[ ] Too much effort for not enough gain; apologize to Hayate for taking up her time and thank her for trying.
- [ ] Time-skip:
- - [ ] Mission.
- - [ ] Visit Lutecia.

[ ] Other?


DM Note: I'm not trying to push you away from Zafira, I just really don't know how to resolve the logistical issues regarding the distance and timing. (For sake of the story, assume at least an hour's drive between the Yagami Residence and Long Arch, if you want to try working something out.)
 
Blargh.

Well, a possible option would be to drop 'Satsuki's Bed' with her in it at certain times so she's right there, provided Hayate's place has space to train in (I would imagine so given who live in it). We take the burden of transport on ourselves.

However, it's probably morbid to transport a coffin back and forth and people will notice. That and what will Satsuki do when they go to sleep?
 
Well, a possible option would be to drop 'Satsuki's Bed' with her in it at certain times so she's right there, provided Hayate's place has space to train in (I would imagine so given who live in it). We take the burden of transport on ourselves.
Would run into issues with the whole 'not allowed to fly around the city at will' thing, especially since you really should make sure Fate knows that you're going to be flying across the city twice a night. Also possible issues with people seeing a big box flying around (if Flan were to be invisible during transport to avoid the prior issue) ... although you would presumably be doing it in the dark for a lessened risk.
 
Also possible issues with people seeing a big box flying around (if Flan were to be invisible during transport to avoid the prior issue) ... although you would presumably be doing it in the dark for a lessened risk.

But then, as you know, we have the problem of telling a senior military officer that we are going to break both a civil and military law if that is the case. This is a lot more grounded in local lawmaking than we all thought.
 
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Would run into issues with the whole 'not allowed to fly around the city at will' thing, especially since you really should make sure Fate knows that you're going to be flying across the city twice a night. Also possible issues with people seeing a big box flying around (if Flan were to be invisible during transport to avoid the prior issue) ... although you would presumably be doing it in the dark for a lessened risk.
Well, I was thinking more a car, except Flandre obviously has no driving permit, no car and can't hardly ask someone to ferry her back and forth. And given where they work, Fate and Hayate can't really approve sneak flying to begin with.

Well, unless Patchouli suddenly offer us a way, we can't deal with the transport issue. Best we can fall back on, unless someone has a plan, is to see if Zafira can maybe tell us some things to do with her. Or record some lessons for Satsuki to follow since Flandre don't really into martial arts to start with. Then possibly pas by on some occasions.

Flying underground is not an option either since it means sewer and well, that has its own issues itself.
 
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Wait, I know we won't be able to carry Satsuki this way, but do we fly as fast as we do normally in bat-crowd mode? Just something for later or to give someone else some food for thought.
Flan can't do the swarm of bats. Even if she could, she would barely be able to control the individual bodies. That said, Flan would be able to fly 'normally' if she were in colony form.
 
Fate vampires have a pretty varied power-set because a lot of them are the results of mages trying to achieve immortality, while only a few are 'natural vampires' or 'True Ancestors', so it depends. I don't think that's an ability of her bloodline, though.
Satsuki's only known powers are vampiric strength, durability, regeneration, hypnotic eyes and magic cancellation field.
Theoretically she should be able to learn magic, since it takes some significant magic potential to become a sapient vampire upon being bitten, most Nasuverse vampires who aren't deliberately converted(True Ancestors, assimilated by some freak of magic, magi transcending mortality, etc) spend years, often decades as mindless zombies before they get some kind of awareness. Satsuki was sapient immediately, so she's got Nasuverse magic potential.

God knows how that translates.

[X] "Could we rebase both Satsuki and Zafira to a suitable training ground for the duration? We won't be here forever after all, so if you're fine with it it's only a temporary arrangement until Satsuki learns better."
-[X] If resisted, see if she's amendable to a less frequent schedule. A couple of days every week maybe?
 
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Or record some lessons for Satsuki to follow since Flandre don't really into martial arts to start with.
... Okay, I need to respecify something here. Flandre knows martial arts. She knows stances, forms, how to punch/kick/grapple, and if that were all that combat training required she wouldn't need help teaching Satsuki. What she can't do is apply them effectively, and she also has a lot of trouble not going all-out in a fight (even 'sparring'). And that means that she can't really train Satsuki in what fighting is like, because she can't show her how a trained martial artist moves and fights with vampiric speed/strength, and any sparring between them (to get Satsuki used to fighting) is going to end with Satsuki badly losing, because she can't stand up to Flan.

[ ] "Could we rebase both Satsuki and Zafira to a suitable training ground for the duration? We won't be here forever after all, so if you're fine with it it's only a temporary arrangement until Satsuki learns better."
Sub-vote in case she says no?
 
[X] "Could we rebase both Satsuki and Zafira to a suitable training ground for the duration? We won't be here forever after all, so if you're fine with it it's only a temporary arrangement until Satsuki learns better."
-[X] If resisted, see if she's amendable to a less frequent schedule. A couple of days every week maybe?
Like so?
 
... Okay, I need to respecify something here. Flandre knows martial arts. She knows stances, forms, how to punch/kick/grapple, and if that were all that combat training required she wouldn't need help teaching Satsuki. What she can't do is apply them effectively, and she also has a lot of trouble not going all-out in a fight (even 'sparring'). And that means that she can't really train Satsuki in what fighting is like, because she can't show her how a trained martial artist moves and fights with vampiric speed/strength, and any sparring between them (to get Satsuki used to fighting) is going to end with Satsuki badly losing, because she can't stand up to Flan.
My bad, sorry.

And veekie, I'm not sure about the setup you propose, so I cannot really vote for it.
 
[X] Thank Hayate for trying, but it seems we'll have to work out a schedule with Alph.
- [X] Time-skip:
- - [X] Mission.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Entropy Judge on Jul 15, 2018 at 6:01 PM, finished with 11895 posts and 3 votes.

  • [X] "Could we rebase both Satsuki and Zafira to a suitable training ground for the duration? We won't be here forever after all, so if you're fine with it it's only a temporary arrangement until Satsuki learns better."
    -[X] If resisted, see if she's amendable to a less frequent schedule. A couple of days every week maybe?
    [X] Thank Hayate for trying, but it seems we'll have to work out a schedule with Alph.
    - [X] Time-skip:
    - - [X] Mission.
    [X] Thank Hayate for trying, but it seems we'll have to work out a schedule with Alph.
    - [X] Time-skip:
    - - [X] Mission.
 
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