And that's a problem how, precisely? I mean, we aren't any more a soft target than a Vault Anchor is, and a lot harder to secretly access. It's a pocket universe, it's not going to weigh us down, nor will it do anything to harm us unless we specifically direct it to for training purposes. If anything, this is more secure than normal because the only way to breach it is to literally go through us to get there.
Suizhan should more than pay off herself once we get farm up and running.
We get more than twice as many with Palimpest, due to chronoreactor. If that is your concern, Palimpest is superior to Vault.
Aesthetically. Also due to PK it's integral to our further progress.
The thing is, we want FB, or even EFB Vault, while you seem pretty happy with just Beyond Palimpsest. Also, discounting grinding, and lackey grinding in particular, is a bit unfair since it is one of the central points of this choice.
As I said last time:
and here's the quote from the update with bold for emphasis:
What?
But what do you want FB/EFB Vault for? What effects do you want out of it? EFBs can be assumed to make the base spell amazingly good, but what exactly do you expect to get from EFB Vault?
All of the diagrams here benefit from that, so I don't see your point. Vault is the only one that actually puts stuff from the outaide into the Vault.
We can probably revise, but I'd be quite surprised if we can both revise then boost it, so this would have a steep cost as to the potential of the Vault for finding some edge that Kong Zang hasn't predicted.
Kong Zang knows everything we do about the Diagram and spoke in the color of the Truth in the quoted part below, so I think he would've just killed us if that amount of power were both within our grasp in less than five years and sufficient to kill him.
The monsters would be appropriate for Suizen, and Rihaku has stated that the Treasures are merely relevant to us. That benefit also starts decreasing sharply when we Go Beyond Dao cleaving - Palimpest's does not.
Utility and esoteric effects, in combination with a possible merging with our inner world and vault to allow us to go full fisher king (with the possibility of using Naturalism to further buff our Vault-World and therefore ourselves)
There aren't all that many people who have commented on the Vault's configuration that I've seen. Here's a proposed base for an FB Vault focused on spawning monsters:
If you want a focused Vault, throw your hat in for a specific one!
As should be fairly obvious, the effects are exponentially magnified by both adding extra points and by turning Signs into Realms.
But that's not what I'm talking about. That lets us cast 3 times more per day - great, we can use more spells in a fight. But I'm talking about taking an existing spell and supercharging it to be straight-up more effective, which is not the same thing at all.
The foundation of our Cultivation is using multiple effects from odd sources to improve it and give extra options. This Tomb is known to be full of ancient, forgotten sources of power we can take inspiration from and make use of - the failure of other Cultivators points to some anti-Cultivation techniques/arts which would be both easier to overcome as someone with 3 separate foundations of power and also probably pretty useful to learn from, given that we're training to fight a big scary Cultivator.
If you honestly think that we can fit an entire moving dungeon in our Vault I hope you are ready to focus on Acc and Size completely.
Yes I was specifically responding to "(I'm not sure where from?)" since I'd answered that for you before and was kinda annoyed that you didn't remember. Concerning your idea, each Diagram Sign draws from a specific source of power so I think we'd have to first mold the Energy of All and Nothingness into that form before it could be accepted, and using our Dao or an EFB are the only available means I see.
Then you want to WAIT on getting the Vault until AFTER we go to the moving Dungeon and I think we both know that means giving up on Vault for Branch.
I must have missed that - thank you for clarifying.
What do you think going from Beyond to FB will do, or FB to EFB, if not give us the opportunity to implement this?
