TPK
Hello, friend.
Bad logic. If he was anti-Town, then his mates could have decided it was better to sacrifice him to better clear themselves from suspicion. It's what I would have done.
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...Why did you go and ask why I assumed TMR was neutral if you think the same then?
Nanimani
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Nah, he had both a title and a faction, implying there's more than one in said faction.
I would note make that assumption unless there is proof of otherwise.
TPK
Hello, friend.
TMR could be a member of the proposed neutral faction OR of the proposed hostile faction. There is no evidence to support either possibility publically available at the moment.
Well, sure didn't look murderous to me.
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When the vote was fairly contested? Bussing a teammate that early is a significant amount of lost value, that has to be weighed against how much believability the sacrifice buys and how likely the vote is to succeed. Considering the vote was close the second variable would be enough to make TMR getting D1 bussed unlikely in my mind.
There is also the fact that context matters, and the lynch post sure didn't seem like that of a mafia member. It showed him trying to teleport away and grab his books rather than try and kill people when he got loose.
LostDeviljho
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Oh yeah, note to self: Scratch that scenario where you trust TPK, he's a terrible maf teammate too. 
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LostDeviljho
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...goddamn emoticons.
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Fuck yes, no one died last night.
I haven't read anything since i was out most of night phase, however it's likely that scum faction tried killing someone but failed, or maybe if there is a neutral evil (rather than what appeared to be TMR playing Survivor with about 3 teleport dodge deaths as the Benevolent Neutral)
Lots of information in the lack of death during night. Gonna be interesting to read stuff.
I haven't read anything since i was out most of night phase, however it's likely that scum faction tried killing someone but failed, or maybe if there is a neutral evil (rather than what appeared to be TMR playing Survivor with about 3 teleport dodge deaths as the Benevolent Neutral)
Lots of information in the lack of death during night. Gonna be interesting to read stuff.
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I fucking love your new profile pic. Glad you are getting better <3
Dude what are you talking about? Last night was a treasure trove of information. We know that 1: Nanimani was targeted by a killing role (almost certainly the main scum faction) AND HEALED -which means that scum faction are both obvious as fuck (who the fuck goes to kill the second or third most talkative and second most focused down on lynching and doesn't expect town roles to be protecting) and desperate.
2: Lost Deviljo was probably targeted by the equivalent of Escort, and is either a non killing scum member (there might be GF, Consiglier equivalents), or neutral or town (since Nanimani WAS targeted and healed). Them admitting to being role blocked indicates they are either playing a "just gonna admit to something that happened in hopes that it makes me look better" or "may as well give this info as I am town or neutral".
What other info? maybe Shadow Shinobi is totally aware that they are ignoring how insanely important last night is but wants to look dumb (please no offense taken bro) to avoid being lynched. Or maybe they are clueless? Either way, it's "proof" that if we can't ascertain obvious mafia that we can lynch SS because we won't lose much.
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So third thing: TMR getting lynched was mostly Town caused. Nanimani-The-Village-Member started that lynch with less than half a day left, whilst TPK and Nani were both 6/8 needed to be lynched. Both TPK and Nani had been basically decided by everyone to be Town and it was more about finding info from one of their deaths...
As can be seen from scum reflexively targeting Nanimani who had been all but declared town during Day 1 at night - and failing - we can factor in them not changing their lynch targets from TPK or Nani to TheMaskedReader.
Not to mention, Scum would not WANT to change the day one Lynch Target from an active poster with lots of heat and dealing out dirt, as it makes for an easy Town Protective night phase...
So I HOPE my logic is reasonable enough when I say that atk50, Winged Cat, shadow shinobi are among the most in suspicion. I don't really think Scum would want to kill TPK as much as Nani during night phase, since TPK is SUPER FRICKING ANGST MAKING relative to most other players. Like, literally every game I see TPK getting hated on for how he does things. Also he was a main initial proponent of the "let's lynch Nanimani because she was saying xyz"
So, fellow newbie, as I don't wanna take out atk50 or Winged Cat atm (neither of them have been mentioned to be doing "scum tells" that I recall):
[X] Lynch shadow shinobi
LostDeviljho
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This statement means nothing, though? Like, you're saying "he was probably targeted by X so he could be any of the possibilities he could have been anyway." You're right that whoever RB'd me was probably not town though, as my flavor was basically "you have been magic-d and no longer have the energy to get up and do things! Then the sun rises and you're all better!", which I doubt is a muggle ability.
My reasoning was basically "I was roleblocked and there was no kill? Well that's a connection that looks bad for me. I need to share this info asap so the RBer can't go 'AHA!' and paint me as scum." Not a Medium, y'see, need to be alive to do things.
Like Nani mentioned, winged cat hasn't been doing much at all, really.
Actually y'know what? Two separate people have mentioned Winged cat as votable, using different trains of logic. I don't have a better option or really many leads on who might want to roleblock me, so for now:
[x] Lynch winged Cat
Winged Cat
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Nothing happened to me last night that I am aware of.
Yeah, I don't post much, as previously established. But I believe it is time for me to reveal anyway.
Try five total factions:
I win if I'm still alive when the game ends. If anyone investigates me, they will see me as their respective enemy faction. (Which suggests someone - probably at least Town - has an investigator.) That said, anyone with a faction chat can confirm I'm not one of them.
I also have a one-shot night kill ability (I'm not sure if stating my kill flavor is PM-quoting, but given my faction it'll be obvious), that I could be pressured into using as evidence. I believe (Town+Cult) is more numerous than (Wizards+Hunters), especially now that one of the latter is out. (My hunch is that we started with 7 Town, 3 Mafia, 2 Wizards, 2 Hunters, and 1 Flamebearer.) Also, almost everyone pretends to be Town in this thread. So...Town, will you accept this as evidence, and if so can you agree on who you want me to kill tonight (or would you rather I wait for another night, since I can only do this once)?
I find this ironic as heck given my signup message. But I'll take it!
Yeah, I don't post much, as previously established. But I believe it is time for me to reveal anyway.
Try five total factions:
- Town
- Cult (scum/mafia)
- Wizards
- Hunters
- The flamebearer - me, a solo faction
I win if I'm still alive when the game ends. If anyone investigates me, they will see me as their respective enemy faction. (Which suggests someone - probably at least Town - has an investigator.) That said, anyone with a faction chat can confirm I'm not one of them.
I also have a one-shot night kill ability (I'm not sure if stating my kill flavor is PM-quoting, but given my faction it'll be obvious), that I could be pressured into using as evidence. I believe (Town+Cult) is more numerous than (Wizards+Hunters), especially now that one of the latter is out. (My hunch is that we started with 7 Town, 3 Mafia, 2 Wizards, 2 Hunters, and 1 Flamebearer.) Also, almost everyone pretends to be Town in this thread. So...Town, will you accept this as evidence, and if so can you agree on who you want me to kill tonight (or would you rather I wait for another night, since I can only do this once)?
I find this ironic as heck given my signup message. But I'll take it!
Winged Cat
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Posted as I was writing up the above. Hopefully I have satisfied you too?
LostDeviljho
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How do you know all this?
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I mean I started that lynch...
I'm too tired to fully process this right now... I think I get what you're saying... but wow.
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Oh whoops. Changes things a bit.
I mean I guess you could be wizard or hunter so whatevs (though you might be scum). WingedCat's information is gamechanging imho.
The existence of wizards and hunters explains why votes were quite split up near the end of day 1, and from the TMR's death fluff maybe they have invulnerability to night kills done by town or mafia?
I don't have any experience at all with complex setups that aren't ToS.
I still think targeting Shadow Shinobi is a safe enough move unless they provide
Nanimani
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Uh, what? I didn't start that train. I got on it when it was him or TPK, but I actually tried to aim the train at someone else near the end of the day.
/shrug. I'm not really against the shadow shinobi wagon, since nothing's changed since I suggested it, but I should point out that if those are your three, my vote was already on Winged Cat.
Could be a neutral ability, though yeah, you probably should've said that. Cuts out the possibility of Town quite nicely.
Legend of Ruina
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Honestly seems a bit wonky to have Town start outnumbered by thirds. As is by your count we'd already have an equal number of Townies and thirds. Perhaps 2 of each faction except you? Still bad but would mean we're not having Ritual levels of everyone for themselves. Regardless, assuming what you say is true, Town is in a pretty awkward spot.
Nanimani
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Maybe the third parties' objectives are complementary to Town's?
Winged Cat
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Was in my PM, of course. Since I don't have factionmates, apparently I got a birds-eye view to do with as I please. And since the spotlight's on me, now's a good a time as any to use it.
Eh? If I read what you're saying correctly, you are suggesting 7 factions w/2 people each, and then my 1-person faction. Wouldn't that be closer to Ritual?
7 Town/3 Cult is my assumption, but it seems the likeliest balance to me. It could also be 8 Town/2 Cult, or even 6 Town/2 Cult/3 Wizards/3 Hunters (and 1 Flamebearer). But I know we have Town vs. Cult and Wizards vs. Hunters in some combination.
Also, just to pass the spotlight along:
[X] Lynch Shadow Shinobi
Winged Cat
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Typo: "now's as good a time as any".
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So pretty much if I'm reading correctly, Wizards and Hunters can win with either Town or Mafia and vice versa, but not their mortal enemy. That...really makes the game messy. Allegiances can change prettyfast depending on who would be more likely to win you the game.
Winged Cat
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It'll be there in the morning (assuming we don't hammer). But it could be worse. It could be 15 1-person factions.
I don't think our GM is that insane, though.