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Terminus Quest: A CKII Mass Effect Quest

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[X] Shoot first, shoot often. Sucker punch the Lystheni with an all-out assault. You possess the advantage of quality. An alpha strike could easily burn half of the Lystheni's ships before they get their engines started, and secure the battle.
 
this vote is proving to be quite one sided.
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Adhoc vote count started by Miner249er on Mar 12, 2018 at 9:27 PM, finished with 11875 posts and 33 votes.
  • [X] Shoot first, shoot often. Sucker punch the Lystheni with an all-out assault. You possess the advantage of quality. An alpha strike could easily burn half of the Lystheni's ships before they get their engines started, and secure the battle.
    [X] Write-In: Last Chance
    -[X] Play it cool. Depart in your own shuttle without comment to anybody. Get off of this toothless platform before the shooting starts.
    --[X] Get the Dalatrass in front of a message terminal. Make clear to her that if her next words aren't "Stand down", the blood of her children will be on her hands.
    ---[X] She says something different? They power up their weapons/try to escape? Destroy them!
    ---[X] They yield? Board them and signal the rest of the fleet.
    [X] Secure the Payload
    -[X] Take control of the hanger. VIPs leave with the Dalatress and (if living) her aide.
    -[X] Board the CL, CL takes out a ship. Fleet advances to secure the station. FF and K focus on anti-screen duties.
    -[X] Message the Lystheni and tell them we have the Dalatress and that their kidnap attempt has failed but make it seem like we're still on the station.
    --[X] If the CL is close to being destroyed (somehow), message that she's on the CL. Provide video.
    -[X] Destroy their fleet.
    -[X] Retrieve our people once safe to do so and leave.
    [X] Secure the Payload
    [X] Shoot first, shoot often. Sucker punch the Lystheni with an all-out assault. You possess the advantage of quality. An alpha strike could easily burn half of the Lystheni's ships before they get their engines started, and secure the battle.
    -[x] Make sure that the dalatrass is kept up to date on the progress of the war.
    [X] Write-in
    -[X] Force the Dalatress at gunpoint to record a message of her ordering local troops to stand down as we leave, with any appropriate codes. Make a second recording of her declaring she's been captured after she attempted to betray us during negotiations, and that the Lystheni are to surrender unconditionally and comply with any orders we give.
    [X] Shoot first, shoot often. Sucker punch the Lystheni with an all-out assault. You possess the advantage of quality. An alpha strike could easily burn half of the Lystheni's ships before they get their engines started, and secure the battle.
    -[X] Make sure to secure the recording of this negotiation.
    [X] Play it cool. Depart in your own shuttle without comment to anybody. Get off of this toothless platform before the shooting starts.
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[X] Shoot first, shoot often. Sucker punch the Lystheni with an all-out assault. You possess the advantage of quality. An alpha strike could easily burn half of the Lystheni's ships before they get their engines started, and secure the battle.
 
[X] Play it cool. Depart in your own shuttle without comment to anybody. Get off of this toothless platform beforethe shooting starts.
-[X] Call for the surrender of the "Navy". Hopefully they're more reasonable.
--[X] And make sure it's recorded for posterity.
 
[X] Shoot first, shoot often. Sucker punch the Lystheni with an all-out assault. You possess the advantage of quality. An alpha strike could easily burn half of the Lystheni's ships before they get their engines started, and secure the battle.
 
[X] Play it cool. Depart in your own shuttle without comment to anybody. Get off of this toothless platform beforethe shooting starts.
-[X] Call for the surrender of the "Navy". Hopefully they're more reasonable.
--[X] And make sure it's recorded for posterity.
 
yeah I don't foresee the military being any more reasonable than the Dalatras at best I see them instantly attacking our ships and sending several squads to recover their Deity Dalatras
 
[X] Shoot first, shoot often. Sucker punch the Lystheni with an all-out assault. You possess the advantage of quality. An alpha strike could easily burn half of the Lystheni's ships before they get their engines started, and secure the battle.

I suppose there is a limit to what some people can take.
 
[X] Shoot first, shoot often. Sucker punch the Lystheni with an all-out assault. You possess the advantage of quality. An alpha strike could easily burn half of the Lystheni's ships before they get their engines started, and secure the battle.
 
[X] Shoot first, shoot often. Sucker punch the Lystheni with an all-out assault. You possess the advantage of quality. An alpha strike could easily burn half of the Lystheni's ships before they get their engines started, and secure the battle.
 
Risks exist either way, but of the choices... strike first.

[X] Shoot first, shoot often. Sucker punch the Lystheni with an all-out assault. You possess the advantage of quality. An alpha strike could easily burn half of the Lystheni's ships before they get their engines started, and secure the battle.
 
[X] Shoot first, shoot often. Sucker punch the Lystheni with an all-out assault. You possess the advantage of quality. An alpha strike could easily burn half of the Lystheni's ships before they get their engines started, and secure the battle.


Mira hasn't really engaged in much personal combat since before the current generation of Lystheni was born. They know she is the Prime Minister and was previously the War Minister, but before that is ancient history to them. Kira is also known as a non-combatant, so it is possible they were confident they could outfight those in the room with the Dalatrass.
 
Simon_Jester said:
The Lystheni spies may not have ever actually seen a trained asari commando in combat; such commandos are not common and wouldn't be fighting on the ground on Virmire often at all. They might have seen portrayals of combat biotics in popular media on Virmire or something, but they could easily have dismissed that as propaganda or exaggeration.

I'm not saying they wouldn't know the asari were biotic at all, but they might have grossly underestimated how important that was.
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And they didn't read any cultural info? Virmire was a joined colony since inception; Maiden culture etc. cannot be unknown. That's like alien spies on earth missing social media.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
We could confuse the **** out of people if we really wanted to though.

Whenever they ask to speak to Mirae we send em over, but she sends them back to us we send them off to a different matriarch so on and so forth.
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I think the problem is that for the asari that may be normal; the lines of influence that various matriarchs wield are apt to be informal and tangled rather than simple and direct, as I understand it.

MTB said:
And they didn't read any cultural info? Virmire was a joined colony since inception; Maiden culture etc. cannot be unknown. That's like alien spies on earth missing social media.
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They may have been distracted by the 99% of asari maidens who go off to be archaeologists or strippers or whatever, and missed out on just HOW badass the 1% who go off to be commandos are.
 
[X] Shoot first, shoot often. Sucker punch the Lystheni with an all-out assault. You possess the advantage of quality. An alpha strike could easily burn half of the Lystheni's ships before they get their engines started, and secure the battle.
 
I admit some confusion about how the Lystheni thought killing Mira "and her puppet master matriarch" would completely cripple Virmire. Oh sure, it would cause some major damage to lose their most beloved prime minister and exceptional military commander, but it wouldn't completely cripple Virmire (except for punching the questers in the gut, the face, then between the legs).

Ok maybe I'm being unfair in my judgement since it might not be public knowledge what happens if the PM is unable to continue their duties, but you'd think spies could figure out the most basic of contingency plans the enemy has in place; like the chain of command! I mean c'mon, do they think our people can't make independent decisions or something? Sure, if our people had the brainpower of the Lystheni then it'd make sense that their leader thought killing Mira would completely cripple our republic, but they couldn't possibly think we're that stupid...

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Could they?

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Holy shit, they actually thought we were that stupid! Those damn fools must've gained a bloody huge ego boost from looting those ancient ruins! Idiots must not have realised that their secret behaviour wasn't actually so secret. Bloody morons didn't even understand how completely dead they would be if Virmire fell at all! What the actual frak was their plan anyway!?

Unless we find proof of diplomatic communications between the Lystheni and other nutjobs, or even the Rachni, then I don't understand how they expected to survive any sort of Virminian breakdown. I mean surely they didn't expect to absorb our population into their crazy cult, right? Let alone believe they have the capacity to fight off the Rachni themselves.

E: I'm also curious; they understand the stereotypical dynamic between asari maiden and matriarch, but they did not understand that Mira is an asari (aka a biotic) commando that is very skilled and talented? Her background (at least part of it) should be public record, and spies should've found at least one thing that wasn't public record. Lystheni, did you fellows remove your brains? Or did you just use your nuclear power generators to radiate your brains?
 
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