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Mythical (RWBY Pyrrha Quest)

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bluefur87 said:
Then, for whatever reason, you've massively misinterpreted my points. Considering my rebuttal, admittedly sardonically, pointed out the overall sense of the points that my problem is 100% with the write in and the mind set behind it and not the author, and you responded with this, I guess I wasn't direct enough.

Let's look over my points.

The first one can be surmised as me viewing the vote as an intense dislike for the vote because the way it's worded reeks of shipping. Whether true or not, I can't get past that.

The second one is, I really don't see this Pyrrha not becoming Jaune's partner anyways, given that Jaune is likely rocking a semblance that gives him guidance to the best path meaning he is going to show Pyrrha up a lot. She will either partner up with him at the end or constantly challenging him to prove she's better, and then probably be angry at him if he loses because 'the person who showed me up can't be this weak!' is a mindset I can easily see her taking. We're rather set on seeing a lot of Jaune either way, so the argument of 'I want to see more Jaune', makes me think 'we're going to do that anyways, so what's the point?'

The third is me saying 'oh hey, we could have some hilarious interactions between Jaune and Pyrrha as she tries to one up him, but inevitably fails because his Semblance would allow him to find ways to overcome her, since it's pretty insane if it is indeed Joan of Arc's, like most of us think. But the write in robs us of that interesting dynamic.


To surmise, I see people taking what could be an interesting plot development and story, skipping it to achieve something I see as incredibly likely to happen anyways, and all because they really like the character not the one we are playing as.

In no way does this reflect my opinion of the QM.

I've seen enough quests where the focus is not shipping to know this is not always true. Everyone just becomes incredibly passive aggressive about it and it ruins the fun of a quest for me instantly to try and participate in that environment. Don't get me wrong, there are numerous quests out there that buck the trend.

So far, without even meeting the full cast or seeing Pyrrha interact with Jaune, we already have close to half the voters saying 'partner with Jaune now' though. Even if not everyone intends it, it's not painting a pretty picture.
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Ah, you can't stand shipping undertones and passive shipping sentiment. That clears things up, although I don't think you'll be able to avoid either here. I'm pretty sure we have WOG that Pyrrha's* mindset can mostly be summed up by "Fight" and "Fuck" with a fair amount of "Why not both" mixed in there. It's gonna be a notable part of the quest. And while I will admit that the write-in was in part inspired by my shipping tendencies, it is more so pushed by my desire to see if Jaune is worth our attention or if we should leave him for dead. The default options will give us some detail on that, but they won't give us as much as directly interacting with him would**.

That being said, I wouldn't say being paired with Jaune is inevitable because we've got no idea how the GM is gonna go about that (and with what seems like some relaxation of the color naming rule the biggest hindrance*** to messing with canon teams may not be present). And the teams for Beacon are really important, because that locks in 3 characters that will have dramatically more screen time than the others and with that exploration of their potentially interesting backstories.


*might have been a reference to mythical Achilles, although since this depiction of Pyrrha is much closer to Achilles the difference is quite likely just semantics
**could have dealt with this earlier, but two-for-one won
***Making a team name out of a handful of letters that follows the color rule and makes sure to have the leader be the first letter


bluefur87 said:
So Pyrrha isn't destined to be shown up by Jaune. Then people's desire to get Jaune to join her as a teammate now as opposed to just relying on it happening is well founded.

I still am far more enjoying Jerk Pyrrha and have yet to see her interact with enough cast to want to immediately pick a partner yet.
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Also, do know the vote says "partner" with quotes on purpose. When making it I was attempting (and probably failed) to express that Pyrrha wasn't picking him as an actual partner but as a warm body so that she can claim she had a "team". She heard Ozpin make a team comment just as she jumped off the cliff, so unless she wants to double back to grab a different warm body, her best option is Jaune.




Jemnite said:
At the risk of spoiling things, I'll just go ahead and say that Jaune doesn't know how to use his semblance yet, and Semblances work a bit differently here. Pyrrha's semblance for example, is not polarity but is a thematic panoply of abilities loosely defined by the keyword 'Unrivaled'. Steel turns away from her flesh for no weapon of mortal craft may strike her low. She stands on equal footing with the gods, supreme in the eyes of Selene.

(As my GMPC Pyrrha must be more overpowered than any other character in this quest :V )
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As in better than actually everyone else, or are there adult Hunters that are better than her?
 
[X] Claim the boy as your "partner". Ozpin said something about teams and you're not going to come back first only to find out that you "needed to do it as a team" or some nonsense like that.
 
Blonddude42 said:
As in better than actually everyone else, or are there adult Hunters that are better than her?
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Not actually everyone else, but better than the vast majority of the students you'll find in Beacon and she can go toe to toe with some of the teachers as well. Unlike Haven which turns out high pressure geniuses on a pretty regular basis due to their focus on grooming from an early age, Beacon, and Signal by extension does not feel the need to set children at each others throats from the minute they meet and thus produces on average, less skilled but also less dysfunctional hunters. In terms of quality of their graduates, it would be said that those who graduate from Haven are generally better than their Beaconite counterparts if not for the fact that every generation or so there's a team of utter geniuses who have no right being as good as they are considering their background from Beacon that utterly dominate the Vytal tournament.

And Ozpin has a good feeling about this year.

There's going to be a little bit of culture shock for Pyrrha because they do things a little differently in Mistral. Not that different, but just differently enough that she'll be thrown off every so often ("What do you mean 'rotate leadership' ?").
 
Jemnite said:
Not actually everyone else, but better than the vast majority of the students you'll find in Beacon and she can go toe to toe with some of the teachers as well. Unlike Haven which turns out high pressure geniuses on a pretty regular basis due to their focus on grooming from an early age, Beacon, and Signal by extension does not feel the need to set children at each others throats from the minute they meet and thus produces on average, less skilled but also less dysfunctional hunters. In terms of quality of their graduates, it would be said that those who graduate from Haven are generally better than their Beaconite counterparts if not for the fact that every generation or so there's a team of utter geniuses who have no right being as good as they are considering their background from Beacon that utterly dominate the Vytal tournament.

And Ozpin has a good feeling about this year.

There's going to be a little bit of culture shock for Pyrrha because they do things a little differently in Mistral. Not that different, but just differently enough that she'll be thrown off every so often ("What do you mean 'rotate leadership' ?").
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Wat.

How will teams be named!? The leader is the first letter of the team name! Are there even teams at Beacon!?
 
Lilithium said:
I will not be cockblocked from Joan of arc twice you bastards
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i feel like i owe lilithium something

not sure what exactly

but this way i get to no longer feel guilty so clearly who am i to turn down a perfectly good excuse?

[X] Claim the boy as your "partner". Ozpin said something about teams and you're not going to come back first only to find out that you "needed to do it as a team" or some nonsense like that.
 
[X] Burst past him. You're confident enough in your skills that you can find the relic before him, no matter how odd his start was. You just couldn't afford to let him get the upper hand.
 
TehChron said:
i feel like i owe lilithium something

not sure what exactly

but this way i get to no longer feel guilty so clearly who am i to turn down a perfectly good excuse?

[X] Claim the boy as your "partner". Ozpin said something about teams and you're not going to come back first only to find out that you "needed to do it as a team" or some nonsense like that.
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Unfortunately, the cockblock is still going strong. Been holding at roughly three behind ever since people started consolidating against it, for whatever their reasons are.


(actually, what would the female form of cockblocking be?)
 
Jemnite said:
At the risk of spoiling things, I'll just go ahead and say that Jaune doesn't know how to use his semblance yet, and Semblances work a bit differently here. Pyrrha's semblance for example, is not polarity but is a thematic panoply of abilities loosely defined by the keyword 'Unrivaled'. Steel turns away from her flesh for no weapon of mortal craft may strike her low. She stands on equal footing with the gods, supreme in the eyes of Selene.

(As my GMPC Pyrrha must be more overpowered than any other character in this quest :V )
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Oh boy, I can't wait til we get an Achilles like 'Unrivalred' rage.:D
Mainly because it's going to be an "OhgodwhyAGHHHH" moment because Achilles in the Iliad had to be restrained by gods because his rage was so great it was going to defy fate.
 
Blonddude42 said:
Unfortunately, the cockblock is still going strong. Been holding at roughly three behind ever since people started consolidating against it, for whatever their reasons are.


(actually, what would the female form of cockblocking be?)
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Well in this case, since it's about Jaunne, I'd say it's still cockblocking in a round about manner. But probably something like cuntlocking because chastity belts! Despite being the equivalent to saying cockblocking, it seems more vulgar due to lack of normalization.

Since female Achilles is our protagonist, I suggest that blueballed can be supplemented by blueovaried.
it is two am what am I typing
 
Blonddude42 said:
So I've seen a good chunk of voters swap to burst past him, anyone want to share why they don't like the write-in to (hopefully) spark some discussion? People claiming tactical voting usually means they hold enough distaste for an option to bother changing their vote.
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Jaune is a shitty character, Arkos is a shitty ship, and immediately trying to tie an actually interesting Pyrrha to Jaune is aggravating in the extreme. There is no IC reason why she would give a shit about Jaune, she has shown interest in other characters notably more, so if she was picking a meaningless partner, it would not be Jaune, so the in universe reasoning fails, and we are reduced to people wanting Jaune to have a more major role in this quest.

That is a desire that I am opposed to. There are a million and one stories with Jaune as a major character, and exceedingly few with Pyrrha as a main character without Jaune playing a large role.
 
to be somewhat fair, by all indication this Jaune is, like, Jauneanu of Arc, The Actual Saint which is the second most interesting take on Jaune I've seen (admittedly, this is the second RWBY quest I've ever read :V) so I can see why people would vote for getting to know more about him

this won't stop me from joining the wolfpack and torpedoing this shipping attempt tho

[X] Burst past him. You're confident enough in your skills that you can find the relic before him, no matter how odd his start was. You just couldn't afford to let him get the upper hand.
 
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[X] Claim the boy as your "partner". Ozpin said something about teams and you're not going to come back first only to find out that you "needed to do it as a team" or some nonsense like that.
 
Well, if it was a remotely normal canon or fanon Jaune, I would do anything to avoid him. Punching, running along, going for a drinking binge because fuck this all, joining Salem...

But this seems to be actual Joan of Arc or so. Aint passing this one up.


[X] Claim the boy as your "partner". Ozpin said something about teams and you're not going to come back first only to find out that you "needed to do it as a team" or some nonsense like that.
 
veteranMortal said:
Jaune is a shitty character, Arkos is a shitty ship, and immediately trying to tie an actually interesting Pyrrha to Jaune is aggravating in the extreme. There is no IC reason why she would give a shit about Jaune, she has shown interest in other characters notably more, so if she was picking a meaningless partner, it would not be Jaune, so the in universe reasoning fails, and we are reduced to people wanting Jaune to have a more major role in this quest.

That is a desire that I am opposed to. There are a million and one stories with Jaune as a major character, and exceedingly few with Pyrrha as a main character without Jaune playing a large role.
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[[ ] The boy praying along alone on one of the wooden benches bolted to the center of the room. He's blond, his hair a sort of tattered wispy white yellow without any richness. His skin is as pale as his hair, almost sort of pallid looking. He wears silver armor plates, chestplate, shoulder, gauntlets, molded onto a hooded longtailed of dark blue. A lance with banner that's so plain in comparison to most hunters weapons it almost stands out in its plainness lays on his lap, already retrieved from his locker. He's tall and thin and even wearing armor has little to no definition to speak of.

You wonder how he thinks he'll be able to make it through initiation. He's pretty enough that if he kisses your hand and begs, you might consider carrying him through.

Might.]
[You spot one figure standing apart from the crowd. It's that wispy looking boy from the locker room, the one who was armored in white and praying in silence on one of the benches. He has his banner spear in hand now and is staring out across the hillside into the forest. From a distance you can see his lips moving, but not clearly enough to read them.

Odd boy.]
[[ ] Chase the boy down. He knows where the relics are. You will have him divulge the location to you.

[ ] Trail the boy. You can afford to watch him from a distance, and put on a last burst of speed at the end to outtake him and take a relic before him. From then on it's only a matter to making it back before him.

[ ] Burst past him. You're confident enough in your skills that you can find the relic before him, no matter how odd his start was. You just couldn't afford to let him get the upper hand.]

It's entirely clear that Jaunne is absolutely nothing like the Canon Jaune which invalidates any opinion of him being shit, as we have yet to even be introduced to him. He's also the only character that Pyrrha noticed after talking to Yang and Ruby. The only one. Thats notably more interest than literally anyone else besides the sisters. So your second point is also false. As for no reason or what ever literally the reason the vote is what it is.

I'm a spoiler you fam, this quest is also literally 'hey Lili I'm going to write a thing where team jnpr is actually affected by their inspiring character bc lol'. So too late, surprise, the quest was 'reduced to jaune' from the start. Rip you.
 
I mean, it's not canon!Jaune aka "half-Gary Sue half self-insert with pretty much no redeeming qualities", it seems to be someone actually interesting.
Probably somewhat unhinged too, but ~Revelations~ is a hell of a drug so.
 
ctulhuslp said:
I mean, it's not canon!Jaune aka "half-Gary Sue half self-insert with pretty much no redeeming qualities", it seems to be someone actually interesting.
Probably somewhat unhinged too, but ~Revelations~ is a hell of a drug so.
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None of the characters in RWBY are all that good anyway tbh. Especially the earlier you go.
 
[X] Claim the boy as your "partner". Ozpin said something about teams and you're not going to come back first only to find out that you "needed to do it as a team" or some nonsense like that.

Considering how different Pyrrha here is to Pyrrha in canon, I'm legitimately curious as to what Jaune's gonna be like.

I was gonna just lurk from the shadows and watch it play out but then I realised that Jemnite linking me to this was the first time he talked to me all year and if I acknowledge that then maybe he'll talk to me more :V
 
[X] Claim the boy as your "partner". Ozpin said something about teams and you're not going to come back first only to find out that you "needed to do it as a team" or some nonsense like that.

Y not?
 
[X] Burst past him. You're confident enough in your skills that you can find the relic before him, no matter how odd his start was. You just couldn't afford to let him get the upper hand.

I don't like Jaune.
 
[X] Claim the boy as your "partner". Ozpin said something about teams and you're not going to come back first only to find out that you "needed to do it as a team" or some nonsense like that.
 
[X] Claim the boy as your "partner". Ozpin said something about teams and you're not going to come back first only to find out that you "needed to do it as a team" or some nonsense like that.
 
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