Star Wars: The Chosen One (An Anakin Skywalker Quest)

I also don't like to play as a white knight or a fucking Saint.

I prefer my characters to be somewhat Selfish.
 
What's wrong with it is that I don't like playing as an evil character.

And the sith weren't really good at anything besides tearing themselves apart. So not really a success story there.

Every civilization falls eventually. As has already been discussion already,

the Sith Empire in each iteration lasted over 1,000 years. It's more of a success than any real world civlization in regards to longevity.

The Sith only started to fall when they went to war with the Republic.

In and of themselves they were fine.

Its fine if you don't like playing an evil character, but don't use your preferences as a "factual argument" for why the player base should not vote for something.

If voters choose to go "evil" i'll write it competently and, depending on rolls, you'll still live and quite possibly succeed.
 
Vote Change. :p
[X] [Reward] To Do all he can to free the slaves in the Outer Rim?

[X] [meetings] Accepted. This would be a great opportunity to hangout with someone who wasn't a Jedi and expand your horizons. The fact that Bail was the Chancellor just made it better!

[X] [Failure] Seriously: Yoda was the teacher, and apparently you'd been doing it the wrong way. You needed to figure out the right way

[X] [Dooku] May I leave the Jedi Order and join you to hunt the SIth?

[X] [Sith] Suspicious: The woman appeared harmless. Perhaps that was the danger?

[X] [Dreams] Frowned in worry and left. You would meditate to determine if this is a message from the Force or merely a bad dream.
 
[X] [Reward] To Do all he can to free the slaves in the Outer Rim?

[X] [meetings] Refused. You would not ally with a politician that could potentially hurt the Jedi if you said the wrong thing.

[X] [Failure] Seriously: Yoda was the teacher, and apparently you'd been doing it the wrong way. You needed to figure out the right way

[X] [Dooku] Please stay with the Order?

[X] [Sith] Suspicious: The woman appeared harmless. Perhaps that was the danger?

[X] [Dreams] Frowned in worry and left. You would meditate to determine if this is a message from the Force or merely a bad dream.
 
I also don't like to play as a white knight or a fucking Saint.

I prefer my characters to be somewhat Selfish.
It's one thing to be a bit selfish. It's another to be capital E Evil, which is what 90% of the Sith are.
Every civilization falls eventually. As has already been discussion already,

the Sith Empire in each iteration lasted over 1,000 years. It's more of a success than any real world civlization in regards to longevity.

The Sith only started to fall when they went to war with the Republic.

In and of themselves they were fine.

Its fine if you don't like playing an evil character, but don't use your preferences as a "factual argument" for why the player base should not vote for something.

If voters choose to go "evil" i'll write it competently and, depending on rolls, you'll still live and quite possibly succeed.
I don't recall saying I was making a factual argument. I am saying that going to the darkside almost invariably leads to evil, and that I, and hopefully most of the playerbase, have no interest in playing an evil character.
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Bail
[X] [Reward] To Do all he can to free the slaves in the Outer Rim?
[X] [meetings] Accepted. This would be a great opportunity to hangout with someone who wasn't a Jedi and expand your horizons. The fact that Bail was the CHancellor just made it better!

Yoda
[X] [Failure] Frustrated: What were you supposed to do? The old gremlin hadn't offered any instruction!

Dooku
[X] [Dooku] May I leave the Jedi Order and join you to hunt the SIth? (Requires 4 CP)

Sith
[X] [Sith] Curious: The Sith Code was different than that of the Jedi. Did not make either code right, but you wanted to learn more.

Dreams
[X] [Dreams] Stomped off angrily. Your family could be in trouble.
 
I don't care to play a evil guy frankly. That's just personal taste. Its part of my personal taste, just like how 100% of the time I burn down every single slaver and raider camp in the Fallout 3/4 games that I run into.
I was the guy that would blow up Megaton for the lulz, wipe out Underworld, destroy the pentagon, sell children from Little Lamplight, torment those people in the VR simulation at the whim of a creepy old dude wearing the face of a little girl, while wishing I could join the Enclave kinda guy...:whistle:
Edit: Oh and don't forget poisoning an entire regions water supply with a virus that would wipe out literally all mutated life that comes into contact with it (pretty much everything) because a wriggling line on a screen told me too.
 
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[X] [Reward] To do all he can to free the slaves in the Outer Rim?
[X] [Meetings] Accepted. This would be a great opportunity to hangout with someone who wasn't a Jedi and expand your horizons. The fact that Bail was the Chancellor just made it better!
[X] [Sith] Curious: The Sith Code was different than that of the Jedi. Did not make either code right, but you wanted to learn more.
[X] [Dooku] May I leave the Jedi Order and join you to hunt the SIth? (Requires 4 CP)
[X] [Failure] Seriously: Yoda was the teacher, and apparently you'd been doing it the wrong way. You needed to figure out the right way
[X] [Dreams] Frowned in worry and left. You would meditate to determine if this is a message from the Force or merely a bad dream.
 
Now I know where I recognized your name!

I lurk on Paradox occassionally.
Really? Wow I didn't know anyone from here outside the paradoxers had heard of us...I hope you liked what you saw. Right now I'm doing this (mainly) NCR game. Check it out if you have time I love your writing.

I am in the market for an Edward House if anyone is interested.
 
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[X] [Sith] Suspicious: The woman appeared harmless. Perhaps that was the danger?

[X] [Dooku] Please stay with the Order?

What annoys me is that, atleast right now, a clear majority doesn't want to leave with Dooku, but leaving is winning anyway because the vote to not leave is split between wishing him good luck and asking him to stay.
 
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[X] [Reward] To do all he can to free the slaves in the Outer Rim?
[X] [Meetings] Accepted. This would be a great opportunity to hangout with someone who wasn't a Jedi and expand your horizons. The fact that Bail was the Chancellor just made it better!
[X] [Sith] Curious: The Sith Code was different than that of the Jedi. Did not make either code right, but you wanted to learn more.
[X] [Dooku] May I leave the Jedi Order and join you to hunt the SIth? (Requires 4 CP)
[X] [Failure] Seriously: Yoda was the teacher, and apparently you'd been doing it the wrong way. You needed to figure out the right way
[X] [Dreams] Frowned in worry and left. You would meditate to determine if this is a message from the Force or merely a bad dream.
 

Lets see what the votes are at shall we?
Edit: Relevant.



Adhoc vote count started by Random Member on Feb 2, 2018 at 2:06 AM, finished with 341 posts and 50 votes.
 
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Bail
[X] [Reward] To do all he can to free the slaves in the Outer Rim?
[X] [Meetings] Accepted. This would be a great opportunity to hangout with someone who wasn't a Jedi and expand your horizons. The fact that Bail was the Chancellor just made it better!

Yoda
[X] [Failure] Seriously: Yoda was the teacher, and apparently you'd been doing it the wrong way. You needed to figureout the right way

Dooku
[X] [Dooku] Please stay with the Order?

Sith
[X] [Sith] Suspicious: The woman appeared harmless. Perhaps that was the danger?

Dreams
[X] [Dreams] Frowned in worry and left. You would meditate to determine if this is a message from the Force or merely a bad dream.
 
Statement: "note that being curious and wanting to learn of an ideology so that you may better yourself and your peers is different form wholeheartedly embracing it.

For instance, I've read all three of the major abrahamic holy books so that I may better understand some 60% of the human population as well as Attempt to derive whatever lessons that I found applicable in my daily life. I remain100% atheistic, still believe in no absolute truths, eat pork, commit to no relationships, overindulge in every way possible, do nothing that does not benefit myself or those I directly care about unless it was absolutely easy basic courtesy type shit, donate blood, and refuse to give a shit about anyone but my cousins, siblings, nephews, and nieces. Yet in reading said texts I feel I not only gained a better understanding of more than 60% of the human population and current issues but I have gained a greater appreciation for much artwork and culture.

What I'm saying is that just because we want to learn about Sith philosophy and arts does not mean we're embracing them. Rather it means we are granting them the consideration that knowledge belonging to a near immortal civilization and an inherent part of the force is due. Learning about biology does not equate to deciding to sedate people in back alleyways so that you may flay them and gaze upon and manipulate their flesh. Rather, learning biology means you know what the fuck you're doing when you decide to start cutting into people in back alleys. Not that ai have a problem with cutting people in back alleys, it just has absolutely nothing to do with learning biology.

Basically, Sith ideology isn't itself a bad thing to learn. Curiosity is a good thing and does not mean that we even agree with it. Curiousity means we want to know what it is. Curiousity even helps if we wish to avoid agreeing with it as it means we know what we're disagreeing with helping so that we can actually argue against it rather than strawmanning and deflecting.

When in persuit of knowledge nothings true; everything is permitted."
 
He'd be fine with it, and if we continue to remain friends with him when the separatist crisis happens, there's a chance we could flip him.

That'd be amazing, and help complete the revolution dream team.
That's not the point. The point is that we're agreeing to help him, and then we're immediately turning around and trying to leave the Order.

If we do this, our word is worth nothing.
 
Bail
[X] [Reward] To Do all he can to free the slaves in the Outer Rim?
[X] [meetings] Accepted. This would be a great opportunity to hangout with someone who wasn't a Jedi and expand your horizons. The fact that Bail was the CHancellor just made it better!

Yoda
[X] [Failure] Frustrated: What were you supposed to do? The old gremlin hadn't offered any instruction!

Dooku
[X] [Dooku] May I leave the Jedi Order and join you to hunt the Sith? (Requires 4 CP)

Sith
[X] [Sith] Curious: The Sith Code was different than that of the Jedi. Did not make either code right, but you wanted to learn more.

Dreams
[X] [Dreams] Stomped off angrily. Your family could be in trouble.

Wow, asking Dooku to stay in the Order pretty please is so... silly. The route to Jedi Lord is right before us and you want to hobble the man who will be our guide. Let us shed the shackles of the Jedi's self-imposed asceticism and ineffectiveness and become a true force for change in the Galaxy!
 
Statement: "note that being curious and wanting to learn of an ideology so that you may better yourself and your peers is different form wholeheartedly embracing it.

For instance, I've read all three of the major abrahamic holy books so that I may better understand some 60% of the human population as well as Attempt to derive whatever lessons that I found applicable in my daily life. I remain100% atheistic, still believe in no absolute truths, eat pork, commit to no relationships, overindulge in every way possible, do nothing that does not benefit myself or those I directly care about unless it was absolutely easy basic courtesy type shit, donate blood, and refuse to give a shit about anyone but my cousins, siblings, nephews, and nieces. Yet in reading said texts I feel I not only gained a better understanding of more than 60% of the human population and current issues but I have gained a greater appreciation for much artwork and culture.

What I'm saying is that just because we want to learn about Sith philosophy and arts does not mean we're embracing them. Rather it means we are granting them the consideration that knowledge belonging to a near immortal civilization and an inherent part of the force is due. Learning about biology does not equate to deciding to sedate people in back alleyways so that you may flay them and gaze upon and manipulate their flesh. Rather, learning biology means you know what the fuck you're doing when you decide to start cutting into people in back alleys. Not that ai have a problem with cutting people in back alleys, it just has absolutely nothing to do with learning biology.

Basically, Sith ideology isn't itself a bad thing to learn. Curiosity is a good thing and does not mean that we even agree with it. Curiousity means we want to know what it is. Curiousity even helps if we wish to avoid agreeing with it as it means we know what we're disagreeing with helping so that we can actually argue against it rather than strawmanning and deflecting.

When in persuit of knowledge nothings true; everything is permitted."
We can be suspicious and still learn more. Those aren't mutually exclusive. One is just significantly less guarded than the other, and when dealing with people as prone to manipulation and treachery as the Motherfucking Sith, we need to be on our guard.
 
What annoys me is that, atleast right now, a clear majority doesn't want to leave with Dooku, but leaving is winning anyway because the vote to not leave is split between wishing him good luck and asking him to stay.
If leaving with Dooku wins because of this, I'll be salty as hell.

Bail

[X] [Reward] To do all he can to free the slaves in the Outer Rim?
[X] [Meetings] Accepted. This would be a great opportunity to hangout with someone who wasn't a Jedi and expand your horizons. The fact that Bail was the Chancellor just made it better!

Yoda
[X] [Failure] Seriously: Yoda was the teacher, and apparently you'd been doing it the wrong way. You needed to figureout the right way

Dooku
[X] [Dooku] Please stay with the Order?

Sith
[X] [Sith] Suspicious: The woman appeared harmless. Perhaps that was the danger?

Dreams
[X] [Dreams] Frowned in worry and left. You would meditate to determine if this is a message from the Force or merely a bad dream.
 
[X] [Reward] To Do all he can to free the slaves in the Outer Rim?

[X] [meetings] Accepted. This would be a great opportunity to hangout with someone who wasn't a Jedi and expand your horizons. The fact that Bail was the Chancellor just made it better!

[X] [Failure] Seriously: Yoda was the teacher, and apparently you'd been doing it the wrong way. You needed to figure out the right way

[X] [Dooku] May I leave the Jedi Order and join you to hunt the Sith? (Requires 4 CP)

[X] [Sith] Suspicious: The woman appeared harmless. Perhaps that was the danger?

[X] [Dreams] Frowned in worry and left. You would meditate to determine if this is a messagefrom the Force or merely a bad dream.
 
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@Appirinia, @Undead Martyr, @Vicjer, @Anduril, @Unearthly Sight, @Icefyre, @Hellhound, @Pred1059, @veekie, @Red

Guys, if you guys don't want the 'leave with Dooku' vote to win I'd recommend we consolidate our vote with 'please stay with the Order' due to it having more votes that the other option.

Of course, but we still have to try to reach our full potential.
Yeah? And waste 4 CPs trying to do so. Plus who says we can't reach our full potential else where? Like say, getting trained by Mace Windu.
 
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