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Alternatively, go full Ministry of Mammon.

Value is determined by scarcity.

One cannot be wealthy if other's are.

People are but objects to be sold and bought.
 
bigblack said:
Alternatively, go full Ministry of Mammon.

Value is determined by scarcity.

One cannot be wealthy if other's are.

People are but objects to be sold and bought.
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I was thinking that and of course being able to loan shark power away. Ive been told someone from HunterXHunter can do somethig similar.

Using money to power yourself or take power from others by "buying"

Etc.
 
Brother Mouse said:
I was thinking that and of course being able to loan shark power away. Ive been told someone from HunterXHunter can do somethig similar.

Using money to power yourself or take power from others by "buying"

Etc.
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Another example that's probably more in the Traditionalist ballpark, try Max Gladstone's work. They literally use soulstuff as currency in the Craft Sequence, so its an entire setting built upon, among other things, that concept.
 
Syndicate characters are going to have a lot of Primal Utility. They're less focused on accomplishing stuff themself and more focused on aiding other members of their construct. Ie, they requisition resources (Quintessence) to provide to their fellow players.
 
Swallow Cutting(Space 3)
Practice: Fraying
Primary Factor: Potency
Suggested Rote Skills: Weaponry, Subterfuge, Brawl
By making the subjects's strikes come from multiple angle, she hinder's the enemy offense and defense. For the Duration of the spell, any attacks made by the subject inflicts Potency penalty to the opponent's Defense before the attack was made and last for a turn, while the subject ignores Potency penalties to her Defense. This can only effect melee attacks.
+1 Reach: The spell can now effect ranged attacks.
Add Time 3: By spending one Reach she can short burst fire with her melee attacks(or with normally incapable ranged weapons with the above Reach), with another Reach she can medium burst, with one more Reach she can long burst.

Samurais and Jojo, in my Mastigos? it's more likely than you think
 
Heretical Law(Prime 5)
Practice: Unmaking
Primary Factor: Potency
Withstood by: Rank
Suggested Rote Skills: Occult, Intimidation, Expression
The mage inflicts blasphemy towards the Supernal by destroying it's being's connection to it. For the Duration of this spell, any Supernal beings effected by this spell suffer the following effects.
*Are always considered to be outside of the summoning circle
*Suffer additional Corpus damage equal to Potency above it's rank for every 30 minutes
*When it 'dies' from anything other than taking damage from Paradox, which will be taken by the Abyss as normal, it's 'body' will remain in the Fallen World for as long as the spell's Duration. When the spell ends, the body is then instantly taken to the Abyss.
+If this spell is cast as an Area of Effect spell, then any attempt at Supernal summoning at the site will fail and will instead summon an Abyssal being

+1 Reach: By paying one Mana, a Supernal being's Reach is calculated as a mage but adds their Rank as additional free Reaches. With another Reach, they do not add their Rank anymore.

Needless to say this spell is almost always a sin towards Falling Wisdom.
 
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So nioh is out. The guardian soirits thing seems WoD. Enough. Maybe a homebrew merit in the works?

Nothing big enough to make your own splat but big enough to warrant a big cost as a merit?
 
Who was the guy who talked about Chieron making super-viagra out of Beasts?

You did not mention that this section is probably the best thing to come out of anything Beast-related period.

 
Generalissimo said:
Problem with losing scarcity. . .
. . . after finally reaching it. . .
. . . people can still find other material stuff to compare themselves by.
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Yeah, uh, if people are able to differentiate between material things, and some people are able to get 'Better' things that other people can't have... That's scarcity.

Even if you have more stuff than you could ever enjoy, you've still got to deal with scarcity- it's just that at that point rather than a scarcity of goods/services, you've got a scarcity of time.
 
Vindictus said:
Yeah, uh, if people are able to differentiate between material things, and some people are able to get 'Better' things that other people can't have... That's scarcity.

Even if you have more stuff than you could ever enjoy, you've still got to deal with scarcity- it's just that at that point rather than a scarcity of goods/services, you've got a scarcity of time.
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Acanthus: "I got this."
 
Brother Mouse said:
Cool. I keep forgetting that Technocracy dudes dont see what theyre doing as magic, just as enlightened science or high connections.

How would a Mage whos paradigm was money=power do this?
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It's called bribes, Mouse.

You get quick and dirty mind effects by paying people. If you want to get into an exclusive club, you slip the bouncer a $50. Slipping a $50 is an extremely basic mind control rote, and its so consensual than even Sleepers can do it. The difference is that it works far more often for the Syndicate mage than it does for the average Sleeper. The mage would attribute this to superior skill, rather than magical reality warping making the target more susceptible to graft.


It moves up from there and becomes very complicated using financial shenanigans. At the highest levels, the Syndicate manipulates the entire global financial system to get shit done.
It also gets confusing because of the number of formerly vulgar technocrat techniques that have become consensual to the point that Sleepers can use them with only a minuscule margin of failure. There was a time when Private Corporate Jet was a Syndicate Correspondence rote that allowed them to rapidly travel around the world. Now pretty much every sleeper exec has them.


Brother Mouse said:
I was thinking that and of course being able to loan shark power away. Ive been told someone from HunterXHunter can do somethig similar.

Using money to power yourself or take power from others by "buying"

Etc.
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That doesn't fit the Syndicate paradigm, at all. It's way to obviously magical, unless you're dealing solely with other technocrats and sleepers, and even then it's hard to make work. It involves being very indirect, hostile corporate takeovers and stuff like that. Buy the mortgage on their house, jack up their interest rates to unsustainable levels, then repo it and lock them out, thus removing their access to their focuses. Strip Wealth dots from them using similar methods. Bribe their Contacts. Ect.

But the way your thinking really doesn't work for someone who isn't overtly magical. It would be better off as a custom monster, really. Something whose power is making magical contracts. And then he can just literally make a contract where he exchanges temporary use of someone's powers for something of value. Which is a cool idea for an antagonist.
 
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hyzmarca said:
I think that the average Sleeper knows so little about what viruses can really do, that RE zombies would qualify as Consensual.
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No. No, they would not. Not in any way. The response to a sleeper seeing a RE Zombie that's more than a shambler would be "Holy shit, that's impossible" - QED, not consensual. As a result, a RE virus outbreak in the WoD gets all the evolved infected nuked by Paradox, leaving behind a "yeah, that virus outbreak was pretty bad. Some of the terminally ill people broke quarantine and wandered the streets. It was disgusting, because body parts were necrotising before they died - sort of like leprosy".

Taken away from nerds on the internet, most people do not believe zombies are realistic.

Likewise, zombies are not a mainstream part of the WoD but instead are freak events and the like, therefore, not Consensual even in that universe. Something which is trivial to work out if you think about it even a little bit.
 
EarthScorpion said:
Likewise, zombies are not a mainstream part of the WoD but instead are freak events and the like, therefore, not Consensual even in that universe. Something which is trivial to work out if you think about it even a little bit.
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A thing to keep in mind about the RE universe is that it started a lot less ridiculous than it became. None of the blatant conservation of mass defying monsters were in the first game and then it only gets worse from there.

Frankly, the progression of horrible super mutants in RE is pretty much a textbook example, if extremely accelerated, of something becoming more consensual as time goes on and thus allowing more vulgar effects to occur.

Yeah, you get shamblers and risky high Paradox Hunters in the first game and by RE 6 you have giant blob monster clones consuming aircraft carriers.

Basically, in the WoD Lore of Resident Evil the Progenitors broke off from the Technocracy and they've been engaged in a civil war ever since that has been going increasingly High Paradox.
 
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