Incidentally, in a 'humanity/fics are a virus way' I think that bedtime is the worst time of all to get random ideas. Like, I don't want to do it, and I hate myself for thinking about it, but I was thinking about vampires and authority (IE, say, vampires who have to pretend to be under someone's authority for a ruse, or teenage vampires, or the like) and somehow, against all my will and judgement, I started thinking of 'what if Taylor from Worm was a vampire.' :p

Fanged superheroes indeed. :V

/Has a problem.
Sadly there's already been a done a couple times though they've only been one-shots. If I'm remembering right there was a Revenant who became a Mekhet thanks to TT , a Nosferatu, and one where she had Malvav stuck in her head which made her an antediluvian.
 
Sadly there's already been a done a couple times though they've only been one-shots. If I'm remembering right there was a Revenant who became a Mekhet thanks to TT , a Nosferatu, and one where she had Malvav stuck in her head which made her an antediluvian.

None of that sounds like what I was thinking of. Which is fine, because what I was thinking of was a stupid idea and I have three Quests and one fic going on already and so I'm not going to do it, even if it was a good idea, which it definitely isn't. *reminds self.*
 
Sadly there's already been a done a couple times though they've only been one-shots. If I'm remembering right there was a Revenant who became a Mekhet thanks to TT , a Nosferatu, and one where she had Malvav stuck in her head which made her an antediluvian.

You forgot the one where she more or less became [Lasombra], just not starting out as the high-end Blood God he and the other Antes became. Though of course with the potential to become one in a very, very long time.

As for a VtM/VtR vamp!Taylor fic, I say go for it. I've played around with several Worm/CWoD/nWoD fic ideas, beyond the one I have posted*. Though even in that one I had some ideas for VtM in it, including giving a certain someone the Nos treatment, something that would no doubt earn scores of cheers from readers.

I actually did start writing a VtM vamp!Taylor one-shot but stopped part way through when I realized it was getting really dark, really fast. Basically the set up was that Danny had been approached several times by some rather shady people wanting to use the Docks for their purposes and of course Danny repeatedly rejecting them. Turns out, they were Sabbat or at least Ghouls working for the Sabbat and they aren't happy with him. One night before the Locker Incident, they show up at his house and... yeah I think we all know how that was going to go...

Like I said, part way through I realized this was getting a little too dark and scrapped it.

*Really should get back to it...
 
You forgot the one where she more or less became [Lasombra], just not starting out as the high-end Blood God he and the other Antes became. Though of course with the potential to become one in a very, very long time.

As for a VtM/VtR vamp!Taylor fic, I say go for it. I've played around with several Worm/CWoD/nWoD fic ideas, beyond the one I have posted*. Though even in that one I had some ideas for VtM in it, including giving a certain someone the Nos treatment, something that would no doubt earn scores of cheers from readers.

I actually did start writing a VtM vamp!Taylor one-shot but stopped part way through when I realized it was getting really dark, really fast. Basically the set up was that Danny had been approached several times by some rather shady people wanting to use the Docks for their purposes and of course Danny repeatedly rejecting them. Turns out, they were Sabbat or at least Ghouls working for the Sabbat and they aren't happy with him. One night before the Locker Incident, they show up at his house and... yeah I think we all know how that was going to go...

Like I said, part way through I realized this was getting a little too dark and scrapped it.

*Really should get back to it...

The problem with 'go for it' is that I already have three Quests (I had a thought that this could actually be Quest), and one fic (that's already a Taylor fic so I'm already getting a lot of her.)

So that's the problem with 'going for it.' I'd need to invent cloning first.

I mean, and none of my Quests are 'I write a .5k update once a month and call it good.' Pretty much all of them eat up huge chunks of time, and I write over 10k or whatnot a week, often more. Yesterday I wrote 5k for an infodump for one Quest. So there's a question of time going on, which is one reason why it's a bad idea.

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Also, I don't know which (or which combination of since I'd probably not be straight up porting the whole thing in) Clan I'd want Taylor to be.

Ventrue?

Daeva? Gangrel? Nosferatu? Mekhet?

I...that's something I wanna discuss even though talking about it is a bad idea and will just make me want to do it more.
 
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Fair enough. We all get busy. I've been wanting to write more but for the last two months or so I've busy that when I do have free time I'm just so mentally and physically spent I just can't seem get the will to write.

Also, I don't know which (or which combination of since I'd probably not be straight up porting the whole thing in) Clan I'd want Taylor to be.

Ventrue?

Daeva? Gangrel? Nosferatu? Mekhet?

Strix.



She is a Little Owl after all...

:p:p:p

In all seriousness I don't really see her as a Ventrue or a Daeva*, though there are Kindred that buck the stereotypes and atypical Embraces like in the VtR QS. I could see her with the other three Clans though I do admit with Taylor it seems to be more difficult to put her into a Clan. Sophia? Gangrel all the way. Emma? Daeva or if I'm really vindictive, Nosferatu (or more preferably CWoD Nos). TT? Mekhet or maybe Ventrue. Rachel? Another Gangrel. Regent? Ventrue.

*Barring of course the Bloodlines which could potentially work better for her. I've actually played around with the idea of Taylor, through her mother's family is connected to the Sangiovanni (0r Giovanni if a CWoD x-over) with Annette's death either being an 'accident' or to cover up her Embrace.
 
The Striges were cool in A Requiem for Rome. They were cool when they were a few hints dropped in the clanbooks that maybe some might be escaping from whatever hell-place they're from in the modern day.

Then they got lame from overexposure. Really, really lame.
 
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I love the Strix. Vamps having their own boogeyman just feels right to me. Anyone used them to good effect in their own games?

Sadly no. As I've said before, I've always been more of CWoD fan than CoD and I've only played one 1E VtR game using the QS and while the QS was really good, I found the 1E Rulebook was just so dull that I never really got into VtR and the CoD as a whole. Though I did rather like Requiem for Rome and love 2E VtR, just haven't had the opportunity to actually play them.

The Strigoi were cool in A Requiem for Rome. They were cool when they were a few hints dropped in the clanbooks that maybe some might be escaping from whatever hell-place they're from in the modern day.

Then they got lame from overexposure. Really, really lame.

You mean the Strix? Cause the only Strigoi I've heard of in VtR was one of the fan-made Bloodlines to replicate the Tzimisce in VtR.
 
Also, I don't know which (or which combination of since I'd probably not be straight up porting the whole thing in) Clan I'd want Taylor to be.

Ventrue?

Daeva? Gangrel? Nosferatu? Mekhet?

I...that's something I wanna discuss even though talking about it is a bad idea and will just make me want to do it more.
I'd say she's either a Nosferatu if you want to play up her low self-esteem and tendency to jump towards body horror, or Mekhet if you want to play up her social invisibility and munchkin.

Also, no starting new projects or I will hit you with a tuna. At least until you finish one of your current ones.
 
I'd say she's either a Nosferatu if you want to play up her low self-esteem and tendency to jump towards body horror, or Mekhet if you want to play up her social invisibility and munchkin.

Also, no starting new projects or I will hit you with a tuna. At least until you finish one of your current ones.

Well, I could definitely make cases for the others. Daeva would be interestingly different, Gangrel would have to do with the primal urges and would have her act as a very *different* sort of Master. As would Ventrue. Having her deal with strange urges from the Beast, or other such shenanigans is part of the point, so it's less 'match personality to power' and more a matter of figuring out what sorts of issues (or a combination of issues) would be most fun to deal with.

I love playing with madness. Also, some of it is the power sets. Daeva, for instance, or some combination that has Daeva as part of it, would have her trying to deal with her new physicality, as well as a Beast doing bad things.

Daeva have Celerity, Vigor, and Majesty. The latter might seem like a dream come true to a bullied girl, and the first two are pretty 'superhero-y'.

Ventrue have Dominate (mind control), Animalism (Control animals) and Resilience.

Nosferatu have Nightmare (Scary powers, mostly), Obfuscate (Hiding incarnate, including several Nice Guy/Imp like tricks), and Vigor (Strength.)

Mekhet have Obfuscate, Auspex, and Celerity. So oddly fast, oddly quiet, and with superhuman senses and also some weird mind-reading shit.

And Gangrel have Protean (body horror), Animalism and Resilience, as well as a hungry, active Beast that is a monster-animal thing.

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I was actually thinking that, since why not play with the Lore, she could actually be some unholy/even-more-unholy combination of two Clans, with strengths and weaknesses from both. Not sure. I'm not really speculating on it in one sense (at the very least I'm not going to start anything), but I am sorta interested in talking about it.
 
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Well clearly she is a Ventrue infested with Malkavia.
Animalism, Dominate, Fortitude, it neatly explains her insects, her making people react acording to her wishes even if it is stupid, and being to dumb to die.
 
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Clans are honestly mostly irrelevant with regards to original background, since most humans who become vampires don't get a choice.

Yep, so the actual choice (and by choice I mean 'author's choice') is as to which Clan(s) (and their powers and any hangups involving the Beast or their changed body) are more interesting for the story.

That's why I was listing powers when I discussed it and talking about specific effects of being in a Clan, rather than analyzing what sort of person Taylor is and what type of vampire that might make or something.
 
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Also, in theory I have an RP going on, but nobody's replying or anything, and I think I might be a bad ST?

In my experience PbP games usually fail due to poor scheduling, and people getting tired of waiting for someone else to post. Most end up dying early due to that. Sometimes it takes a few tries to get a group that posts consistently enough to keep a game going. So probably not bad STing.
 
Well, I could definitely make cases for the others. Daeva would be interestingly different, Gangrel would have to do with the primal urges and would have her act as a very *different* sort of Master. As would Ventrue. Having her deal with strange urges from the Beast, or other such shenanigans is part of the point, so it's less 'match personality to power' and more a matter of figuring out what sorts of issues (or a combination of issues) would be most fun to deal with.

I love playing with madness. Also, some of it is the power sets. Daeva, for instance, or some combination that has Daeva as part of it, would have her trying to deal with her new physicality, as well as a Beast doing bad things.

Daeva have Celerity, Vigor, and Majesty. The latter might seem like a dream come true to a bullied girl, and the first two are pretty 'superhero-y'.

Ventrue have Dominate (mind control), Animalism (Control animals) and Resilience.

Nosferatu have Nightmare (Scary powers, mostly), Obfuscate (Hiding incarnate, including several Nice Guy/Imp like tricks), and Vigor (Strength.)

Mekhet have Obfuscate, Auspex, and Celerity. So oddly fast, oddly quiet, and with superhuman senses and also some weird mind-reading shit.

And Gangrel have Protean (body horror), Animalism and Resilience, as well as a hungry, active Beast that is a monster-animal thing.

Yeah, taken like that any of them could work. You could have Taylor grow addicted to Majesty, loving the positive attention and all that but at the same time, knowing it's not real. Likewise Dominate could be a very tempting and terrifying power for her.
 

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The 'example campaign' and character profiles in the last part is pretty funny.
:tongue:

I like that highlander crossover though:
http://mrgone.rocksolidshells.com/pdf/Misc/Immortal_Rules_Revised.pdf

Although i read that ww has a new game line for 'immortals' that is tied to the setting and their usual faction methodology instead of the (rather stupid) game of the highlander franchise.
 
Elders, man. They live interesting unlives, sometimes.

Indeed.
And now the Camarilla Prince of Bel Air is slumming it as part of some sort of squad of disposable operatives that are sent on suicide missions.

Malkavian Jester.
Baali with Fires of the Inferno 5
Gangrel with a skin condition
Australian Brujah with a fondness for trick boomerangs.

All orchestrated by a Ventrue woman who has few morals even for a vampire and had to create the custom morality Path of Taking no Shit to compensate.

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The 'example campaign' and character profiles in the last part is pretty funny.
:tongue:

I like that highlander crossover though:
http://mrgone.rocksolidshells.com/pdf/Misc/Immortal_Rules_Revised.pdf

Although i read that ww has a new game line for 'immortals' that is tied to the setting and their usual faction methodology instead of the (rather stupid) game of the highlander franchise.

Highlander's Game works very well as a conflict generator. It gives immortals a default reason to fight each other, which immortals generally don't have. When you can live forever if you aren't killed, fighting is a sucker's game.
 
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Highlander's Game works very well as a conflict generator. It gives immortals a default reason to fight each other, which immortals generally don't have. When you can live forever if you aren't killed, fighting is a sucker's game.
It felt incredibly forced in the movies and tv series, and i feel it would only feel even more in a p&p game.

Basically, everyone with a brain goes 'hey, why are we doing this shit' and 'power of course' (for the bad guys) and 'we need to defend ourselves' (for the good guys) is the answer, but then 'but why do i obey these silly rules, like 'no 2 on one' or 'only swords' and 'not on holy ground maaaan' and the answer usually is 'uh. Some guy tried it 2400 years ago and it ended badly', like idiot utilitarian atheist youngsters looking for power/survival actually believe elders (although, even worse, only the holy ground restriction is explained like that).

First thing i'd feel that has to go on a game like this, is the game, although really, on the wod there is plenty to replace it.
Though people looking for such a crossover probably want to play a game of 'honorable combat' in a fallen world or some shite like that.

Another unbelievable thing is that in the original setting there are plenty of 'anti-headhunters' but it seems that they never thought to formalize into something like a actual police-like force that team ups and hunts headhunters. Which would end the game more definitely that taking a headhunter here and there, although i guess there would be a lot of conflict and abuse before the new order won.
 
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It felt incredibly forced in the movies and tv series, and i feel it would only feel even more in a p&p game.

Basically, everyone with a brain goes 'hey, why are we doing this shit' and 'power of course' (for the bad guys) and 'we need to defend ourselves' (for the good guys) is the answer, but then 'but why do i obey these silly rules, like 'no 2 on one' or 'only swords' and 'not on holy ground maaaan' and the answer usually is 'uh. Some guy tried it 2400 years ago and it ended badly', like idiot utilitarian atheist youngsters looking for power actually believe elders (although, even worse, only the holy ground restriction is explained like that).

Not really.

I mean, in the movies there are only like four immortals left. In the first it was Fasil, Kastagir, MacLeod, and the Kurgan. And all of them were effectively immune to bullets due to a much higher regeneration rate than in the series. If it isn't a decapitation, it's not going to slow them down much. The other two movies don't exist, but if they did, they would have similarly small and ancient casts.

In the tv series, plenty of immortals took shortcuts. Kalas hit a guy with a car. Xavier St. Could worked with a mortal hit squad. The Four Horsemen worked together until they they broke up. There was that one guy who thought he was God, and put together a team of immortals to fight his enemies. And plenty of young immortals think it's a good idea to ambush an ancient one with modern weapons or trickery. Most die in the attempt.

The holy ground thing can be justified as an instinct more than anything. After all, they can somehow identify holy ground and know exactly where it stopps. I'd assume that's related to their ability to sense each other.

As for the Prize being power. That's the thing, no one actually knows what it is. They just know that it exists. I'd think that all of the power that's spread out between the immortals wants to get back together. That it draws them together, because it's totally improbable for immortals to randomly cross paths as often as they do, just on basis of population alone.

Anyway, Highlander doesn't work in an integrated World of Darkness. It has to be its own thing to work right, and the central themes don't mesh well with the WoD.



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WHY?
Who would be stupid enough to let a Baali live, let alone let them on a team like that?!

That's like the Technocracy recruiting a "Suicide Squad" made of nothing but Formorians and Nephandi!

Hey, not everyone gets to choose who their sire is. I mean, really, it's the LA riots right. Everybody is smashing shit and stealing TVs. And, you know, you could actually use a TV. So you go out with some friends, and you find an electronics store whose window has already been smashed, quite helpfully. And someone is already in there, but you know, there's more than enough TVs for everyone, not like he could carry them all out himself, so you don't think that'll be a problem. But then you notice that the store owner is there, and the other guy is, in fact, eating him. That's the point when you know that you need to get out of there, but as soon as you turn around something hit you. Next thing you know you wake up naked in the middle of a giant pentagram made of blood. And it's only after careful investigation that you learn 1) you're a vampire, 2) you've been possessed by a demon for the past week, and 3) you can shoot fireballs from your hands. Now all of your homies are dead, you're wanted to the police, and all the other vampires think you're evil for some reason. I mean, hey, Pot, the Kettle is on the phone.
 
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